EPTI usually end up getting tank like stats on her like 4-5-10 or something. Could be because I am just a sub par player but I also am just playing normals with her hehe.
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Slaughter
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I usually end up getting tank like stats on her like 4-5-10 or something. Could be because I am just a sub par player but I also am just playing normals with her hehe. | ||
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JackDino
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Juicyfruit
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:43 Lanzoma wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they used ruby for small tasks and tools, particularly those without GUI. Requizen: It really depends on what part of the LoL architecture you want to work on. Do you like server-side work? Do you want to work on the game engine? The LoL client? If you're serious about applying I can give you some pointers as of to what they'll be expecting. I'd really like to be a game designer, but I know that that's the kind of thing they look for a lot of experience with, which is why I'm designing a mobile game when I'm not at my 9-5 job. I like (if you've noticed) talking about balance, champion design, and mechanics, which is really what I'd like to do in the future. Alas, the gaming industry is notoriously difficult to get into if you don't have experience or connections, but I keep trying. Short of that, game engine programming sounds neat, but that's really complex work that I don't know if I'm nearly smart enough to do. I really just want to make something that leaves a mark, that people will enjoy even if they never know that I was part of it. That sounds kinda sappy, but I'm really depressed and loathing of my current rote desk programming job. I really just want to get out of here and do something that I look forward to every day. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:52 JackDino wrote: Late to the discussion but I'd rather have them remove flash than exhaust if they need to remove any, atleast you can qss exhaust. Flash is touchy because a lot of champions are almost built with the idea that their only escape (or initiation, in some cases) is having Flash. There are a lot of champs that may quickly drop in effectiveness if Flash was removed, and I don't know if Riot wants a (no pun intended) riot on their hands if they cause a massive metagame shift like that. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
V1.0.0.112 Ghost duration decreased to 10 from 14. V1.0.0.101 Ghost movement speed increase reduced to 27% from 32%. I've been preaching this for like 9 months, but no one fucking listens to me. Ghost used to be situationally stronger than Flash, and now it never is unless you're like, singed or MAYBE olaf. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:57 Requizen wrote: Flash is touchy because a lot of champions are almost built with the idea that their only escape (or initiation, in some cases) is having Flash. There are a lot of champs that may quickly drop in effectiveness if Flash was removed, and I don't know if Riot wants a (no pun intended) riot on their hands if they cause a massive metagame shift like that. I couldn't imagine trying to play Annie without Flash. Like, her viability drops so hard if you took Flash out of the game. Also, I remember those Ghost nerfs. That was back when I played Vlad a ton and I hated those nerfs. | ||
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Craton
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:05 Craton wrote: The majority of AD and AP carries would become pretty trash without Flash. So it would even out. Alistar is pretty useless without flash though. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
Flash is the utility mobility Summoner and Ghost is the brute force mobility Summoner. When the vast majority of your scenarios naturally favor the utility spell due to uneven terrain and zone control CC, the brute force option has to have fucking crazy numbers to ever be worth it. At least that's my take on the comparison and why Ghost needs to be rebuffed... badly. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
Removing flash would be pretty huge gameplay wise. Not always the best when wording things. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:14 JackDino wrote: I didn't say they should remove flash, just saying that you can't really do anything against flash(esp flash over walls) unless you run flash yourself but you can always get rid of exhaust with qss. Removing flash would be pretty huge gameplay wise. Not always the best when wording things. Removing Flash causes some pretty huge problems where a lot of champs lose their viability in play. Removing Exhaust? That would probably make divers a bit better but more importantly it'd force people to actually react to divers better as your AD carry can no longer just Exhaust and run away or Exhaust and kill the person who dived them. Like, I think the game would be legitimately a lot better if they took Exhaust out or nerfed it into oblivion. I can't really say the same about Flash. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
IMO they should give ghost a buff like vayne's passive where you gain additional movespeed when moving in the direction of enemies to incentivise to using it offensively. Perhaps give it a 10% additional damage bonus too. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:29 Two_DoWn wrote: I remember when Ghost used to be the default escape spell simply because NOTHING could catch someone who used ghost, except for another ghost. That was WAAAAAYYYYYYYY more unfun than flash simply because ghost is completely 1 dimensional- you use it to run away, never run forward. Flash has offensive and defensive aspects, and it isnt as though flash is a complete get out of jail free card- there are plenty of cases where flash isnt enough to save someone. IMO they should give ghost a buff like vayne's passive where you gain additional movespeed when moving in the direction of enemies to incentivise to using it offensively. Perhaps give it a 10% additional damage bonus too. And this would make ghost completely useless defense wise. Bad idea. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
If it were made into an item what items would you suggest be bought to build into a flash item? You're going to see an asshole like Garen show up in the top lane with ignite and exhaust and you're going to be fucked because you're not going to be able to even melee a creep with out dying. If its too expensive you're going to be crippling champions like Galileo because he has to buy it in order to have good ults. Too cheap and you're basically just asking everybody to buy it which is problebly worse than everybody just using it in there summoners. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:18 overt wrote: Removing Flash causes some pretty huge problems where a lot of champs lose their viability in play. Removing Exhaust? That would probably make divers a bit better but more importantly it'd force people to actually react to divers better as your AD carry can no longer just Exhaust and run away or Exhaust and kill the person who dived them. Like, I think the game would be legitimately a lot better if they took Exhaust out or nerfed it into oblivion. I can't really say the same about Flash. Flash can be itemized o.O On November 05 2011 02:35 Sabin010 wrote: I am against removing/changing to an item flash. I can understand why its a little broken, most champions are running it and some champions only run it to chase all the squishies that run it, this is usually indicative of some kind of imbalance. If it were made into an item what items would you suggest be bought to build into a flash item? You're going to see an asshole like Garen show up in the top lane with ignite and exhaust and you're going to be fucked because you're not going to be able to even melee a creep with out dying. If its too expensive you're going to be crippling champions like Galileo because he has to buy it in order to have good ults. Too cheap and you're basically just asking everybody to buy it which is problebly worse than everybody just using it in there summoners. If garen with exhaust/ignite could 1shot everyone I'd imagine we'd be seeing that always even now. And btw you counter that by exhausting him. It could just be a standalone item that costs like 1000 and gives nothing else. Maybe tenacity though. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:34 JackDino wrote: And this would make ghost completely useless defense wise. Bad idea. It would still give bonus movespeed when running away as it does now. But as is, even if you rebuff ghost to where it was or close, it STILL only has defensive use. It needs to have offensive use as well IMO. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:37 Two_DoWn wrote: It would still give bonus movespeed when running away as it does now. But as is, even if you rebuff ghost to where it was or close, it STILL only has defensive use. It needs to have offensive use as well IMO. Ghost can be used offensively to chase idk what the hell you are talking about. If you change it to be like vayne passive you can't use it defensively because using it defensively means you are running away, which means the chaser will always be faster than you. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:29 Two_DoWn wrote: I remember when Ghost used to be the default escape spell simply because NOTHING could catch someone who used ghost, except for another ghost. That was WAAAAAYYYYYYYY more unfun than flash simply because ghost is completely 1 dimensional- you use it to run away, never run forward. Flash has offensive and defensive aspects, and it isnt as though flash is a complete get out of jail free card- there are plenty of cases where flash isnt enough to save someone. IMO they should give ghost a buff like vayne's passive where you gain additional movespeed when moving in the direction of enemies to incentivise to using it offensively. Perhaps give it a 10% additional damage bonus too. What? I use it offensively all the time....chasing/gap closing squishies in fights etc. | ||
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