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Want to rage about your latest loss? Use the QQ thread. If you whine in GD, you'll get warned. - Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th |
On November 05 2011 00:51 Mogwai wrote:
My understanding is that, if you're right next to your wall and she shoots you, you fly through it, but if you're a little ways away, she shoots you, doesn't give you enough momentum to go through the wall and then it's like, lol u hit a wall, gg. But again, the point is that exhaust is bullshit.
I'm honestly going off of what I've seen and read, since I don't own either. If you've ever made a game, collision tags are a big thing. I think the player made walls and what not are labeled differently than the actual map. Walls/turrets/etc are labeled "terrain", player made probably something else, and there's probably a modifier that's like:
on collision
{
if ( ( (heroicCharge = true) or (condemn = true) ) and (collider.type = terrain) )
{
call stun
}
}
I have no idea what language they use, but whatever, you get the point. It shouldn't stun you if it's not actually terrain.
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On November 05 2011 00:57 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:On November 05 2011 00:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
So much rage this morning... I'm just mad because the only character I play well in top lane that's actually any good is Irelia. Story of your (LoL) life. zz How bout them pants, trolol... Why don't you pick better champs or are they too boring for you?
because then I'm like, ok, I'll pick Ryze to counter whatever stupid fuck goes top. then my team makes me go mid vs. a morgana with a champ that I:
1. suck with
and
2. is countered by morgana
FML, so then it's back to Irelia and then my whole team sucks and QQQQQQ, I just mad, ignore me.
And good characters are boring, they don't kill people. I just wanna fucking kill people ffs.
On November 05 2011 01:00 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:51 Mogwai wrote:
My understanding is that, if you're right next to your wall and she shoots you, you fly through it, but if you're a little ways away, she shoots you, doesn't give you enough momentum to go through the wall and then it's like, lol u hit a wall, gg. But again, the point is that exhaust is bullshit. I'm honestly going off of what I've seen and read, since I don't own either. If you've ever made a game, collision tags are a big thing. I think the player made walls and what not are labeled differently than the actual map. Walls/turrets/etc are labeled "terrain", player made probably something else, and there's probably a modifier that's like: Show nested quote +
on collision
{
if ( ( (heroicCharge = true) or (condemn = true) ) and (collider.type = terrain) )
{
call stun
}
}
I have no idea what language they use, but whatever, you get the point. It shouldn't stun you if it's not actually terrain.
lol, that's not how Riot does it though. Poppy's was working with some weird shit where you could like, turn around right after a charge and it would count it as a stun even if there was no wall near. Their collision stuff is weird.
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Why is ocelete complaining about karthus. Is he a moron?
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On November 05 2011 00:23 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:18 shinarit wrote:On November 05 2011 00:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
I wanted to try AD carries.
Then realised they were all 6300IP (Cait, Kog, Graves, Vayne).
Hard life. ashe: 450 trist: free Or you meant easy to play ad carry? Yeah, I have Ashe and Tristana, but having 2 chars viable in a certain position isn't enough to play it consistently. If my opponents team pick Tristana + Ashe support (imba support btw), what am I supposed to do ? :'( At least with junglers you can buy most of them (GP, Fiddle, Udyr, Trynda, Nunu) for 3k or less ! PS : I'll never understand the pricing on champs.
I've never heard of ashe as support o.O (I'm a newb) how does it work?
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On November 05 2011 01:01 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:57 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 05 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:On November 05 2011 00:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
So much rage this morning... I'm just mad because the only character I play well in top lane that's actually any good is Irelia. Story of your (LoL) life. zz How bout them pants, trolol... Why don't you pick better champs or are they too boring for you? because then I'm like, ok, I'll pick Ryze to counter whatever stupid fuck goes top. then my team makes me go mid vs. a morgana with a champ that I: 1. suck with and 2. is countered by morgana FML, so then it's back to Irelia and then my whole team sucks and QQQQQQ, I just mad, ignore me. And good characters are boring, they don't kill people. I just wanna fucking kill people ffs.
Wat, you es gud. I never understood why you struggle (for a lack of a better word) with picking up new champs. :X Ryze isn't that complex either, hurr. Much easier than Croc. ;o
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LoL es java I believe
On November 05 2011 01:01 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Is he a moron?
Why yes. Yes he is.
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On November 05 2011 01:01 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Why is ocelete complaining about karthus. Is he a moron?
Because Karthus is a boss?
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had ap carry, support, solo top melee ad practice, started ad range week ago. picked caitlyn. she gets nerfed when you start to be good with her few days later.
;_;
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On November 05 2011 01:04 Niklai wrote:
had ap carry, support, solo top melee ad practice, started ad range week ago. picked caitlyn. she gets nerfed when you start to be good with her few days later.
;_;
She isn't nerfed at all. She's fine. AD ranged champions never receive nerfs/buffs on the level of Bruisers or AP casters get.
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My current super sekrit strat has been to leave morg up so the other team fps her and then pick brand and shit on her.
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On November 05 2011 00:42 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:41 Mogwai wrote:On November 05 2011 00:40 Requizen wrote:
E can't pin to player made walls. you'd think that, wouldn't you? That's... how it is bro. Can't pin to Anivia's wall, Trundle's Pillar, or Jarman's Cataclysm. It will knock you through. Maybe you got pinned to a wall behind your ring?
I'm 95% sure I've been pinned to an Anivia wall once with Vayne E.
Edit: Didn't see you continued the discussion. Sorry.
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On November 05 2011 01:01 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 00:57 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 05 2011 00:55 Mogwai wrote:On November 05 2011 00:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
So much rage this morning... I'm just mad because the only character I play well in top lane that's actually any good is Irelia. Story of your (LoL) life. zz How bout them pants, trolol... Why don't you pick better champs or are they too boring for you? because then I'm like, ok, I'll pick Ryze to counter whatever stupid fuck goes top. then my team makes me go mid vs. a morgana with a champ that I: 1. suck with and 2. is countered by morgana FML, so then it's back to Irelia and then my whole team sucks and QQQQQQ, I just mad, ignore me. And good characters are boring, they don't kill people. I just wanna fucking kill people ffs. Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 01:00 Requizen wrote:On November 05 2011 00:51 Mogwai wrote:
My understanding is that, if you're right next to your wall and she shoots you, you fly through it, but if you're a little ways away, she shoots you, doesn't give you enough momentum to go through the wall and then it's like, lol u hit a wall, gg. But again, the point is that exhaust is bullshit. I'm honestly going off of what I've seen and read, since I don't own either. If you've ever made a game, collision tags are a big thing. I think the player made walls and what not are labeled differently than the actual map. Walls/turrets/etc are labeled "terrain", player made probably something else, and there's probably a modifier that's like:
on collision
{
if ( ( (heroicCharge = true) or (condemn = true) ) and (collider.type = terrain) )
{
call stun
}
}
I have no idea what language they use, but whatever, you get the point. It shouldn't stun you if it's not actually terrain. lol, that's not how Riot does it though. Poppy's was working with some weird shit where you could like, turn around right after a charge and it would count it as a stun even if there was no wall near. Their collision stuff is weird.
Oh hell man, I don't know how it works. I'd give my right kidney (my favorite, btw), to hang out for even a day with their code and figure it all out, let alone work there in some capacity.
On November 05 2011 01:03 Craton wrote:
LoL es java I believe
Neat, I don't get why people hate Java so much sometimes. It's a perfectly fine language, imo.
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On November 05 2011 01:06 Craton wrote:
My current super sekrit strat has been to leave morg up so the other team fps her and then pick brand and shit on her.
Can't imagine a scenario where Brand shits on Morg tbh...
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On November 05 2011 01:04 Niklai wrote:
had ap carry, support, solo top melee ad practice, started ad range week ago. picked caitlyn. she gets nerfed when you start to be good with her few days later.
;_;
Her nerfs weren't anything. 20 base damage off Q is negligable, Traps are still imba zoning. Her passive/autos and ult are her late game strengths.
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You've got like 250 range on her. All you have to do is land your W's. If she tries to last hit anything under like level 4 you just beat her ass for coming in your range. Then you just have to box her out from aoeing caster minions while dodging Qs once she has level 3 W.
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On November 05 2011 00:49 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +- Jarvan IV's Cataclysm does not count as terrain for Condemn's conditional stun.
- Cataclysm ring doesn't count as impenetrable terrain, so it won't proc Heroic Charge's or Condemn's conditional stuns. Only walls, turrets (or turret rubble), and inhibitors. I think the Nexus too. Agreed. Honestly, I even hate using Exhaust myself. It's a cheesy 1v1 or focus fire ability. I think the only "good" summoners are the utility ones like Smite, Teleport, Revive, Clarity, and maybe Ghost. Flash is dumb. Ignite and Exhaust are bullshit. CV is probably fine, but it still annoys the piss out of me.
i'm fine with the fundemental idea of cv, its just that with the mastery (or even without tbh) the duration is too long and the cd too short
flash... idk, i think i'm ok with it in general, i rage at it all the time, but when i step back and think about it i don't have as much of a problem. i think my favorite suggestion is giving it the blink dagger treatment, thereby making it either more clutch in escaping or more useful in an offensive context overall
similarly with exhaust, i think its ok in concept (it and flash are pretty much the only defense ranged ad have from assassins and bruisers, esp given how awful 99% of supports are at protecting them), just prob a numbers thing. Imo it should still reduce dmg, but how it is now it makes you do basically 0 dmg, on top of having your armor/mres reduced. It effectively renders a target 100% vulnerable and 100% useless for 3 secs, and given how low the cd is, that seems too strong. i think if it was more like ~35-50ish dmg reduction.
i kinda wish in general that riot would take more of a look at summoners and masteries tho. i would like to see heal/clairity/rally/fortify adjusted or removed in favor of something completely new.
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On November 05 2011 01:06 Craton wrote:
My current super sekrit strat has been to leave morg up so the other team fps her and then pick brand and shit on her.
Just pick anyone that can push faster than her. Sion and malz both do. Morg "wins" her lane by regening with pool while killing creeps and then eventually clearing a wave which lets her roam.
edit: also holy shit chauster brand 21-2.
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@moonbear: what do you do at riot exactly? :3
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On November 05 2011 01:09 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 01:04 Niklai wrote:
had ap carry, support, solo top melee ad practice, started ad range week ago. picked caitlyn. she gets nerfed when you start to be good with her few days later.
;_; Her nerfs weren't anything. 20 base damage off Q is negligable, Traps are still imba zoning. Her passive/autos and ult are her late game strengths.
you two guys are right, obviously. it's slight nerf, but i already had 3 times yesterday when i web agressivly to running champion, right click once, q and he gets away on 10-20hp  i just find it funny
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