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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
November 04 2011 12:28 GMT
#1241
OMFG Hotshot stream so funny, picking em bitches up.
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
November 04 2011 13:11 GMT
#1242
On November 04 2011 21:28 -Kato- wrote:
OMFG Hotshot stream so funny, picking em bitches up.

Yeah it's remarkable how he has been putting up 10-15k+ viewers in the recent weeks...just to show how entertaining he is and how global this game is with that many people for a non-tournament stream. He's not even on Teamliquid either lol
br0fivE
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada349 Posts
November 04 2011 13:26 GMT
#1243
that cait, smokin

+ Show Spoiler +
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=313351&d=1320368563
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 13:58 GMT
#1244
On November 04 2011 22:26 br0fivE wrote:
that cait, smokin

+ Show Spoiler +
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=313351&d=1320368563

Your username is surprisingly relevant right now.
It's your boy Guzma!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
November 04 2011 14:19 GMT
#1245
That Akali costume is really good. Also flattering.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 14:22:02
November 04 2011 14:21 GMT
#1246
On November 04 2011 19:12 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
HOW did this girl not enter/win?

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[image loading]

She was at PAX, and you're not allowed to enter costumes made beforehand. It's why Riku couldn't submit her Nidalee cosplay.

On November 04 2011 21:09 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 08:38 clickrush wrote:
world of warcraft has the same thing btw. in dota we called it pseudo random distribution:

http://www.playdota.com/forums/7993/article-pseudo-random-distribution/

read this if you want to know everything about it.


Can anyone (Moonbear?) comment on how this works in LoL? tbh the Wc3 algorithm sounds as if it's being used to use less CPU usage instead of a true RNG.

I don't know too much about how this is coded. The WC3 engine sounds like it uses a Markov chain where for all states A_i for i=0,...,N it can either progress to A_i+1 with decreasing probability or move to C. The states A_i would represent the number of hits without a critical, and C would represent a Critical being charged up. C would only be able to transition to A_0 of course. LoL on the other hand would likely condition the above occurrences so that if you're out of combat for an extended period of time you would move back to A_0, regardless of your previous position (so it acts a bit like a martingale in some way I suppose).

On November 04 2011 21:09 r.Evo wrote:
ALSO I WANT MOAR PICS OF THAT AKALI. <3

The photographer's gallery is here.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 04 2011 14:45 GMT
#1247
On November 04 2011 13:24 Demonace34 wrote:
These have probably been asked before but I know there are a ton of good players on TL that might have more insight then some of the guides I've read. I'm level 23 just fyi.

In normal games, most of the time people have no idea how to jungle and even when I do jungle our top lane gets torn apart 1v2 because people don't understand how to play more passively and out-level them while I get to level 6 ult. I'm looking to carry a team from the jungle.

I've been doing phoenix Udyr wits end jungle 1/14/8 (with a mix between t1 and t3 runes) but the amount of kiting that happens to me along with my team auto attacking and lane pushing so I can't gank at all leaves me in the jungle more than I'd like. I've tried WW but his ganks pre 6 and his jungle annoys me. I've tried chogath but he is way too reliant on landing his Q and hoping the enemy doesn't juke it. Amumu is fun but still seems like is gank pre 6 isn't up to par with some of the other junglers. I was just wonder what other people would recommend for junglers (I've played over 100 games vs intermediate AI and I'm 48 and 14 in normals so I have no clue where my normal elo stands).

I've heard fiddlesticks is too rune dependent for newer people (I have T3 MP5/lvl seals and MR/lvl glyphs). I don't know much about Tryn jungle, but I'm sure the longer the game goes and the longer he farms the scarier he gets. Shaco has good pre level 6 ganks but I don't know how rune dependent he is.

I've researched a ton of guides but input from the community would be appreciated. Thanks.


I don't know how rune dependant the Feedlesticks is. I've always run him with cdr blues, mana/5 yellows, magic pen reds, ap quints, masteries 9-0-21. I'm guessing if you could get a decent leash instead of a one hit run leash you could get away with just magic pen and armour yellows with what ever quints/blues you want. The only problem is at least once in your jungle career a noob blitz is going to leash blue with a pull over the wall and completely fuck your route up. BTW if you die and lose blue or can't get every blue, the mana per 5 runes is what will allow you to continue to clear camps, but assuming you don't get your self killed you should be able to get away with jungling with just armour yellows and what ever you want for other runes. The jungle monsters don't even have magic resist so its not like the magic pen reds are helping you clear camps just help with ganks. The thing I like about the flat blue cdr rune's is with blue buff your drain comes off cooldown as soon as its done draining so you get continuous drainability.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 14:50 GMT
#1248
I've started to think Graves isn't as supid imba OP as I thought he was before. Mostly because I've been playing Caitlyn, and if you play smart she just shits all over him in lane and later on. His strength lies in his super aggressiveness, which requires him to run in and try to blitz you, so with smart positioning he's less scary. If you can try to duck around and dodge his ult and not get hit by all 3 Qs, all he has are his short-range autos.

I'm not saying he's weak, he's indeed one of the best AD carries right now, but I no longer think he's just "Pick Graves and win every game" level of broken.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 04 2011 14:53 GMT
#1249
real logic

pick the most retarded ad laner
beat other slightly less retarded ad laner

well he must not be stupid broken since most op laner beats him
twitch.tv/cratonz
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 14:59 GMT
#1250
On November 04 2011 23:53 Craton wrote:
real logic

pick the most retarded ad laner
beat other slightly less retarded ad laner

well he must not be stupid broken since most op laner beats him

Hehe, maybe, but then I don't think Cait is broken either, probably because I play her so much

I'm just saying there are counters for each. Graves and Vayne have issues with zoning and range. Cait has no burst or CC, so letting Graves/Ezreal/Kog/Vayne get near her is a death sentance. Ezreal is all skillshot dependent, so with good positioning you can negate some (or a lot ) of his damage. Kog has 0 escape and is squishy as hell, so he can be shut down really easily early on.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13909 Posts
November 04 2011 14:59 GMT
#1251
Hes an ass to anyone whos not cait or kog. I swear riot wants people to use him solo top or to zone out a mage hard in mid.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 04 2011 15:01 GMT
#1252
I wanted to try AD carries.
Then realised they were all 6300IP (Cait, Kog, Graves, Vayne).

Hard life.
The legend of Darien lives on
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
November 04 2011 15:07 GMT
#1253
Graves is pretty tanky with his passive and has amazing burst. Cait on the other hand has traps (meh) a sucky ulti. I'm starting to not rate cait that highly anymore. Kog has the insane late game dps and range, ezreal has really good early/mid game and graves has great burst.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 04 2011 15:08 GMT
#1254
ok guys, new proposition.

I'll trade in

one of my bans in solo queue

to be able to ban exhaust

FUCK

THAT

SHIT
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 04 2011 15:15 GMT
#1255
For just 1440 gold you can get rid of Exhaust. Why waste a ban.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 15:15 GMT
#1256
On November 05 2011 00:08 Mogwai wrote:
ok guys, new proposition.

I'll trade in

one of my bans in solo queue

to be able to ban exhaust

FUCK

THAT

SHIT

There should be a DotA classic mode with no summoner spells aside from Recall. No super map awareness from CV, no cheesing heals or getting dumb kills with Ignite, no stopping enemies cold with Exhaust, and no get out of jail free Flash. Maybe give Smite for junglers or something, I guess. But summoner spells can piss me off harder than actual champions.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 15:17 GMT
#1257
On November 05 2011 00:07 Goshawk. wrote:
Graves is pretty tanky with his passive and has amazing burst. Cait on the other hand has traps (meh) a sucky ulti. I'm starting to not rate cait that highly anymore. Kog has the insane late game dps and range, ezreal has really good early/mid game and graves has great burst.

She's a lane winner. A smart and good Cait will never lose her lane, and only go even at worst (farming under tower). That pure lane dominance and zoning is what makes her good, as high level games rarely go into that super late end game where Kog/Trist/Vayne get to be fully built.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 04 2011 15:18 GMT
#1258
I'd rather prioritize a mode where champions are not exclusive. 5*Lee Sin team = Shaolin Soccer!
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
November 04 2011 15:18 GMT
#1259
On November 05 2011 00:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
I wanted to try AD carries.
Then realised they were all 6300IP (Cait, Kog, Graves, Vayne).

Hard life.


ashe: 450
trist: free

Or you meant easy to play ad carry?
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 04 2011 15:23 GMT
#1260
On November 05 2011 00:18 shinarit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 00:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
I wanted to try AD carries.
Then realised they were all 6300IP (Cait, Kog, Graves, Vayne).

Hard life.


ashe: 450
trist: free

Or you meant easy to play ad carry?

Yeah, I have Ashe and Tristana, but having 2 chars viable in a certain position isn't enough to play it consistently. If my opponents team pick Tristana + Ashe support (imba support btw), what am I supposed to do ? :'(

At least with junglers you can buy most of them (GP, Fiddle, Udyr, Trynda, Nunu) for 3k or less !

PS : I'll never understand the pricing on champs.
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