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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 04 2011 16:12 GMT
#1301
Malz doesn't beat Morgana. It's a very boring farm lane.
twitch.tv/cratonz
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:13:04
November 04 2011 16:12 GMT
#1302
On November 05 2011 01:01 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Why is ocelete complaining about karthus. Is he a moron?

Kart IS very powerful, but yeah, Ocelote is a moron. I love him though.

On November 05 2011 01:03 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 00:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
On November 05 2011 00:18 shinarit wrote:
On November 05 2011 00:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
I wanted to try AD carries.
Then realised they were all 6300IP (Cait, Kog, Graves, Vayne).

Hard life.


ashe: 450
trist: free

Or you meant easy to play ad carry?

Yeah, I have Ashe and Tristana, but having 2 chars viable in a certain position isn't enough to play it consistently. If my opponents team pick Tristana + Ashe support (imba support btw), what am I supposed to do ? :'(

At least with junglers you can buy most of them (GP, Fiddle, Udyr, Trynda, Nunu) for 3k or less !

PS : I'll never understand the pricing on champs.

I've never heard of ashe as support o.O (I'm a newb) how does it work?

Ashe support has free CVs, a very powerful single target slow, a good AoE slow, and a friggin powerful engage. Not to forget high early game damages. She is a real pain in the a**, and not having doesn't put you behind in utility, so...
The legend of Darien lives on
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 04 2011 16:12 GMT
#1303
yea i dont think its possible to lose as morg to brand unless they are really bad. ive played that matchup a lot and he just doesnt do enough damage to negate my spellvamp.
Brees on in
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 04 2011 16:12 GMT
#1304
Riot definitely needs more summoners and items. Go design moar of those plox.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 04 2011 16:13 GMT
#1305
On November 05 2011 01:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
@moonbear: what do you do at riot exactly? :3


He's a Wrenchie, not a Riot employee.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:17:34
November 04 2011 16:15 GMT
#1306
On November 05 2011 01:12 Craton wrote:
Malz doesn't beat Morgana. It's a very boring farm lane.


I think Malz has the upper hand in that match up, but Morgana should still be able to force a stalemate and farm effectively. Malz E is so baller for farming. I played a morg vs malz game yesterday (as Morg), I couldn't really go near Malz at all but we both just annihilated the mobs as soon as they got to the center.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 04 2011 16:18 GMT
#1307
On November 05 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
@moonbear: what do you do at riot exactly? :3


He's a Wrenchie, not a Riot employee.


Derp...
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:18:46
November 04 2011 16:18 GMT
#1308
On November 05 2011 00:37 ninjakingcola wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Dat sideboob


I was going to post the same thing, haha. Seriously though she's super hot :O Costume looks better than most as well, it's very consistent all around I hate the costumes that use different materials everywhere.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 04 2011 16:19 GMT
#1309
On November 05 2011 01:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 05 2011 01:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
@moonbear: what do you do at riot exactly? :3


He's a Wrenchie, not a Riot employee.


Derp...


as a wrenchy tho, he has a lot of connections to riot employees (aka rioters actually respond when he asks them stuff) so he's like tl's unofficial riot spokesmen
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 04 2011 16:22 GMT
#1310
On November 05 2011 01:15 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:12 Craton wrote:
Malz doesn't beat Morgana. It's a very boring farm lane.


I think Malz has the upper hand in that match up, but Morgana should still be able to force a stalemate and farm effectively. Malz E is so baller for farming. I played a morg vs malz game yesterday (as Morg), I couldn't really go near Malz at all but we both just annihilated the mobs as soon as they got to the center.


eh, they farm/clear at about the same speed (morg possibly faster, she can kill minimum 3 creeps at the same time while malz clears them 1 by 1) and morg can shrug off any harass malz can throw at her. dont see how malz can possibly win
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:33:59
November 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#1311
On November 05 2011 01:08 Phrost wrote:
Riot Game's Tom "Zileas" Cadwell and his presentation from GDC
"Designers are Human Too - Cause of Poor Design Decisions"

http://gdcvault.com/play/1015033/Designers-are-Human-Too-Causes


This thread moves so fast but I think this is a really interesting article.

In this he references:
Omen (a cut champion)
Tryndamere/Kayle remakes
Lee-sin vs Garen Design
Wukong + Shaco's original abilities and development process
Poppy's ult - bad design
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:29:25
November 04 2011 16:28 GMT
#1312
On November 05 2011 01:03 Craton wrote:
LoL es java I believe

Kind of.

By Lima Beans:

C++ (the core game is written in this)
Lua (core game)
C# (game tools)
ActionScript (game hud and pvp.net)
Java (platform servers)
Erlang (platform servers)
Php/sql (web team / platform)
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:32:59
November 04 2011 16:32 GMT
#1313
On November 05 2011 01:28 Lanzoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:03 Craton wrote:
LoL es java I believe

Kind of.

By Lima Beans:

C++ (the core game is written in this)
Lua (core game)
C# (game tools)
ActionScript (game hud and pvp.net)
Java (platform servers)
Erlang (platform servers)
Php/sql (web team / platform)



More specifically, design scripts are LUA (ie abilities)

I think the game tools are also in ruby?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 16:37 GMT
#1314
That makes more sense. I apparently need some experience with Lua before I apply, at least I've done C++/#, Java, and SQL with PHP.
It's your boy Guzma!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 04 2011 16:38 GMT
#1315
About summoner's, the problem Riot has with a lot of the disliked summoner's is how important some of them are to some champions. Like, yeah, you could probably make a case for Flash being a "bad" summoner due to it making ganks and stuff so hard but without Flash champions like Annie or Alistar lose a lot of their appeal.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing reworks to Exhaust, Flash, and CV. As others have said, reducing the duration and increasing the cooldown on CV might be enough to fix it. I dunno what they can do with Flash and honestly maybe that spell is fine as is (and maybe any attempts at changing it would threaten certain champs way too much to make it worthwhile). I honestly wouldn't mind if they just took Exhaust out of the game, it's just such a flawed concept. Maybe if it like only slowed or something it'd be fine but I hate how much it kills your AD and ability damage making it good to use on any enemy who's going to do a lot of damage or on anyone who dives. There's just nothing more crushing than getting a perfect initiation from a teammate, diving into the enemy AD carry at the right time, and then getting smacked with an Exhaust and be completely unable to do anything at all.

It'd also be nice to see the worthless summoner's get changed or replaced.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 04 2011 16:40 GMT
#1316
On November 05 2011 01:37 Requizen wrote:
That makes more sense. I apparently need some experience with Lua before I apply, at least I've done C++/#, Java, and SQL with PHP.


LUA is a scripting language, it's C based, you don't need a super huge amount of experience with it. The syntax is almost the same as c++ except you dont need to declare a variable type and for loops use , instead of ;
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2011 16:42 GMT
#1317
On November 05 2011 01:40 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:37 Requizen wrote:
That makes more sense. I apparently need some experience with Lua before I apply, at least I've done C++/#, Java, and SQL with PHP.


LUA is a scripting language, it's C based, you don't need a super huge amount of experience with it. The syntax is almost the same as c++ except you dont need to declare a variable type and for loops use , instead of ;

Neat, thanks. The only scripting languages I've really used (Computer Science major) have been C# and Javascript (dunno if you can count Database ones, but eh). I really want to get into design >.<
It's your boy Guzma!
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
November 04 2011 16:42 GMT
#1318
On November 05 2011 01:38 overt wrote:
About summoner's, the problem Riot has with a lot of the disliked summoner's is how important some of them are to some champions. Like, yeah, you could probably make a case for Flash being a "bad" summoner due to it making ganks and stuff so hard but without Flash champions like Annie or Alistar lose a lot of their appeal.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing reworks to Exhaust, Flash, and CV. As others have said, reducing the duration and increasing the cooldown on CV might be enough to fix it. I dunno what they can do with Flash and honestly maybe that spell is fine as is (and maybe any attempts at changing it would threaten certain champs way too much to make it worthwhile). I honestly wouldn't mind if they just took Exhaust out of the game, it's just such a flawed concept. Maybe if it like only slowed or something it'd be fine but I hate how much it kills your AD and ability damage making it good to use on any enemy who's going to do a lot of damage or on anyone who dives. There's just nothing more crushing than getting a perfect initiation from a teammate, diving into the enemy AD carry at the right time, and then getting smacked with an Exhaust and be completely unable to do anything at all.

It'd also be nice to see the worthless summoner's get changed or replaced.



There is one very easy solution to flash. Make it a item, then it can be balanced by the cost.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
November 04 2011 16:43 GMT
#1319
I wouldn't be surprised if they used ruby for small tasks and tools, particularly those without GUI.

Requizen: It really depends on what part of the LoL architecture you want to work on. Do you like server-side work? Do you want to work on the game engine? The LoL client? If you're serious about applying I can give you some pointers as of to what they'll be expecting.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:47:16
November 04 2011 16:46 GMT
#1320
On November 05 2011 01:42 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 01:38 overt wrote:
About summoner's, the problem Riot has with a lot of the disliked summoner's is how important some of them are to some champions. Like, yeah, you could probably make a case for Flash being a "bad" summoner due to it making ganks and stuff so hard but without Flash champions like Annie or Alistar lose a lot of their appeal.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing reworks to Exhaust, Flash, and CV. As others have said, reducing the duration and increasing the cooldown on CV might be enough to fix it. I dunno what they can do with Flash and honestly maybe that spell is fine as is (and maybe any attempts at changing it would threaten certain champs way too much to make it worthwhile). I honestly wouldn't mind if they just took Exhaust out of the game, it's just such a flawed concept. Maybe if it like only slowed or something it'd be fine but I hate how much it kills your AD and ability damage making it good to use on any enemy who's going to do a lot of damage or on anyone who dives. There's just nothing more crushing than getting a perfect initiation from a teammate, diving into the enemy AD carry at the right time, and then getting smacked with an Exhaust and be completely unable to do anything at all.

It'd also be nice to see the worthless summoner's get changed or replaced.



There is one very easy solution to flash. Make it a item, then it can be balanced by the cost.


That would work. Still need to remove Exhaust. I've had so many fights where I commit to a 1v1 or something that I know I can easily win. Then I get Exhausted and not only can I no longer win the fight but I won't be able to get out alive either. It's just such a stupid Summoner's that rewards bad play (like an AD carry who gets out of position or whose team can't protect them, or a bruiser who's weaker than me but he has Exhaust so now he's stronger than me).
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