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Want to rage about your latest loss? Use the QQ thread. If you whine in GD, you'll get warned. - Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th |
On November 13 2011 23:11 h3r1n6 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 22:56 seppolevne wrote:On November 13 2011 22:31 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!
I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions? I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D). Funny how you can buy 3 tier 1 movespeed quints for about 500IP and get 2.5% or spend 6k+ for 4.5%. Halloween MS quints were 1k for 1.39% though probably too late now >.< Even then, that's not the full bonus that the Tier 3 ones give. So I'd probably be replacing them sooner or later anyway, and it's just a wasted 3k IP. Also, the new masteries give 1% less movement speed for one more point and it is more accessible to everyone. Makes movement speed quints even better in my eyes.
They had winter ones last year for ~75% off, and since they re released teh halloween ones this year I feel like these will be making a comeback too ;>
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I have found new love for Pantheon. I used to hate playing him and regretting that I bought him.
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i stopped playing pantheon when i realized that i could play a secret op version of him that can shoot spears(that crit) and mandrop without needing to drop there (without delay too + global range).
YARR HARR HARR
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On November 14 2011 03:24 Bladeorade wrote:
Mantheon is such a boss.
Only if he's ruthless. At best he's a supervisor otherwise
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On November 14 2011 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
i stopped playing pantheon when i realized that i could play a secret op version of him that can shoot spears(that crit) and mandrop without needing to drop there (without delay too + global range).
YARR HARR HARR
but you can't flex your pexxxx, your argument is invalid.
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On November 14 2011 03:36 STS17 wrote:Only if he's ruthless. At best he's a supervisor otherwise
Is he not always ruthless? If you aren't ruthless as Mantheon, you are doing it wrong.
Always kill, never die.
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pantheon lol :<. Why play him over riven... Or sion this patch... Or gp... Or a number of other heroes. Just because he's manly? Everything about him is slightly worse than mediocre.
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His Q harrass to 50% health into full comboed death is so fun.
And Man Dropping is hilarious. I just think he is a fun champion regardless of his less than mediocre standing.
So easy to faceroll in normals and against the right champs in ranked. Like versus Nasus top for instance.
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On November 14 2011 04:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
pantheon lol :<. Why play him over riven... Or sion this patch... Or gp... Or a number of other heroes. Just because he's manly? Everything about him is slightly worse than mediocre.
This may come as a huge shock but some people play this game because they enjoy playing it, which means they play champions they enjoy playing instead of only playing the very best champions available.
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i really miss the iteration of pantheon where his q was imbalanced and his e was worthless. That was pretty obnoxious.
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TSM vs Dignitas, looks like TSM lost, aced near top Dig gets baron.
They were behind throughout getting double killed bot with Udyr sneaking in lane, then losing dragons by not being in position in time.
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Each team had 4 bans and TSM didn't ban out Jatt's Udyr. Kinda surprising ..
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On November 14 2011 03:14 unichan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 23:11 h3r1n6 wrote:On November 13 2011 22:56 seppolevne wrote:On November 13 2011 22:31 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!
I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions? I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D). Funny how you can buy 3 tier 1 movespeed quints for about 500IP and get 2.5% or spend 6k+ for 4.5%. Halloween MS quints were 1k for 1.39% though probably too late now >.< Even then, that's not the full bonus that the Tier 3 ones give. So I'd probably be replacing them sooner or later anyway, and it's just a wasted 3k IP. Also, the new masteries give 1% less movement speed for one more point and it is more accessible to everyone. Makes movement speed quints even better in my eyes. They had winter ones last year for ~75% off, and since they re released teh halloween ones this year I feel like these will be making a comeback too ;>
Uh, Winter runes were 25% off. What you're trying to say is that winter runes cost 75% of the original rune.
As for Halloween runes, they were fine and hardly a waste of IP. At what point does that 0.3% movement speed loss make a difference? Saying it does just seems more OCD than anything else, even if you're a competitive player you'd be on the tournament server for games where that 3/1000th of your movement speed might actually matter. In S1 there were some 2k Elo players with just 2 rune pages. That's a far bigger inconvenience! But it turns out that even though I have more rune pages and probably more champions those guys are still better than me at this game because actual skill >>> optimized runes.
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On November 14 2011 05:26 phyvo wrote:
actual skill >>> optimized runes.
while that is true, optimized runes are <free>* and easily acquired, and (optimized runes + actual skill) >> optimized runes OR actual skill, so why not go for the best runes available?
*except for the time sink, obviously
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United States4053 Posts
So apparently Scout increases the vision range of your wards as well as your champ... how much is 5% anyway?
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As if 1 MS is going to make a difference in a real game...
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Meanwhile, two evenly skilled players will have who wins come down to small things like runes and masteries.
It's ignorant to say that having less than the maximum stats will never hurt you.
On November 14 2011 05:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
As if 1 MS is going to make a difference in a real game...
Math is not your strong suit, apparently.
On November 14 2011 05:29 infinitestory wrote:
So apparently Scout increases the vision range of your wards as well as your champ... how much is 5% anyway?
According to what?
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What's a standard Garen build? I usually go Ghostblade -> Merc Treads -> Warmog's -> Atma's -> Force of Nature (if there's an AP threat) -> Warmog's. That works pretty well for me, but do other people build more damage heavy?
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On November 14 2011 05:29 infinitestory wrote:
So apparently Scout increases the vision range of your wards as well as your champ... how much is 5% anyway?
vision wards have a range of 1000, so 5% is 50 additional range 1050
sight wards have a range of 1100 so 5% is an additional 55 range for 1155
so probably not gamebreaking but 55 range is nothing to scoff at. it allows you to see an incoming gank like a quarter of a second sooner i guess...
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