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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 13 2011 18:14 GMT
#3401
On November 13 2011 23:11 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 22:56 seppolevne wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:31 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?



I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D).

Funny how you can buy 3 tier 1 movespeed quints for about 500IP and get 2.5% or spend 6k+ for 4.5%.

Halloween MS quints were 1k for 1.39% though probably too late now >.<


Even then, that's not the full bonus that the Tier 3 ones give. So I'd probably be replacing them sooner or later anyway, and it's just a wasted 3k IP.

Also, the new masteries give 1% less movement speed for one more point and it is more accessible to everyone. Makes movement speed quints even better in my eyes.

They had winter ones last year for ~75% off, and since they re released teh halloween ones this year I feel like these will be making a comeback too ;>
:)
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
November 13 2011 18:20 GMT
#3402
I have found new love for Pantheon. I used to hate playing him and regretting that I bought him.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
November 13 2011 18:24 GMT
#3403
Mantheon is such a boss.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#3404
i stopped playing pantheon when i realized that i could play a secret op version of him that can shoot spears(that crit) and mandrop without needing to drop there (without delay too + global range).

YARR HARR HARR
cool beans
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 13 2011 18:36 GMT
#3405
On November 14 2011 03:24 Bladeorade wrote:
Mantheon is such a boss.


Only if he's ruthless. At best he's a supervisor otherwise
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 13 2011 18:54 GMT
#3406
On November 14 2011 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
i stopped playing pantheon when i realized that i could play a secret op version of him that can shoot spears(that crit) and mandrop without needing to drop there (without delay too + global range).

YARR HARR HARR

but you can't flex your pexxxx, your argument is invalid.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
November 13 2011 18:58 GMT
#3407
On November 14 2011 03:36 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 03:24 Bladeorade wrote:
Mantheon is such a boss.


Only if he's ruthless. At best he's a supervisor otherwise

Is he not always ruthless? If you aren't ruthless as Mantheon, you are doing it wrong.

Always kill, never die.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 13 2011 19:43 GMT
#3408
pantheon lol :<. Why play him over riven... Or sion this patch... Or gp... Or a number of other heroes. Just because he's manly? Everything about him is slightly worse than mediocre.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
November 13 2011 19:49 GMT
#3409
His Q harrass to 50% health into full comboed death is so fun.

And Man Dropping is hilarious. I just think he is a fun champion regardless of his less than mediocre standing.

So easy to faceroll in normals and against the right champs in ranked. Like versus Nasus top for instance.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 13 2011 19:50 GMT
#3410
On November 14 2011 04:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
pantheon lol :<. Why play him over riven... Or sion this patch... Or gp... Or a number of other heroes. Just because he's manly? Everything about him is slightly worse than mediocre.

This may come as a huge shock but some people play this game because they enjoy playing it, which means they play champions they enjoy playing instead of only playing the very best champions available.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 13 2011 19:51 GMT
#3411
i really miss the iteration of pantheon where his q was imbalanced and his e was worthless. That was pretty obnoxious.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
November 13 2011 20:03 GMT
#3412
TSM vs Dignitas, looks like TSM lost, aced near top Dig gets baron.

They were behind throughout getting double killed bot with Udyr sneaking in lane, then losing dragons by not being in position in time.
Bluebush
Profile Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
November 13 2011 20:10 GMT
#3413
Each team had 4 bans and TSM didn't ban out Jatt's Udyr. Kinda surprising ..
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
November 13 2011 20:26 GMT
#3414
On November 14 2011 03:14 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 23:11 h3r1n6 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:56 seppolevne wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:31 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?



I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D).

Funny how you can buy 3 tier 1 movespeed quints for about 500IP and get 2.5% or spend 6k+ for 4.5%.

Halloween MS quints were 1k for 1.39% though probably too late now >.<


Even then, that's not the full bonus that the Tier 3 ones give. So I'd probably be replacing them sooner or later anyway, and it's just a wasted 3k IP.

Also, the new masteries give 1% less movement speed for one more point and it is more accessible to everyone. Makes movement speed quints even better in my eyes.

They had winter ones last year for ~75% off, and since they re released teh halloween ones this year I feel like these will be making a comeback too ;>


Uh, Winter runes were 25% off. What you're trying to say is that winter runes cost 75% of the original rune.

As for Halloween runes, they were fine and hardly a waste of IP. At what point does that 0.3% movement speed loss make a difference? Saying it does just seems more OCD than anything else, even if you're a competitive player you'd be on the tournament server for games where that 3/1000th of your movement speed might actually matter. In S1 there were some 2k Elo players with just 2 rune pages. That's a far bigger inconvenience! But it turns out that even though I have more rune pages and probably more champions those guys are still better than me at this game because actual skill >>> optimized runes.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 13 2011 20:29 GMT
#3415
On November 14 2011 05:26 phyvo wrote:
actual skill >>> optimized runes.


while that is true, optimized runes are <free>* and easily acquired, and (optimized runes + actual skill) >> optimized runes OR actual skill, so why not go for the best runes available?

*except for the time sink, obviously
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 13 2011 20:29 GMT
#3416
So apparently Scout increases the vision range of your wards as well as your champ... how much is 5% anyway?
Translator:3
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#3417
As if 1 MS is going to make a difference in a real game...
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 20:36:44
November 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#3418
Meanwhile, two evenly skilled players will have who wins come down to small things like runes and masteries.

It's ignorant to say that having less than the maximum stats will never hurt you.

On November 14 2011 05:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
As if 1 MS is going to make a difference in a real game...

Math is not your strong suit, apparently.

On November 14 2011 05:29 infinitestory wrote:
So apparently Scout increases the vision range of your wards as well as your champ... how much is 5% anyway?

According to what?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#3419
What's a standard Garen build? I usually go Ghostblade -> Merc Treads -> Warmog's -> Atma's -> Force of Nature (if there's an AP threat) -> Warmog's. That works pretty well for me, but do other people build more damage heavy?
I am the Town Medic.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#3420
On November 14 2011 05:29 infinitestory wrote:
So apparently Scout increases the vision range of your wards as well as your champ... how much is 5% anyway?


vision wards have a range of 1000, so 5% is 50 additional range 1050
sight wards have a range of 1100 so 5% is an additional 55 range for 1155

so probably not gamebreaking but 55 range is nothing to scoff at. it allows you to see an incoming gank like a quarter of a second sooner i guess...
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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