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Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 13 2011 10:20 GMT
#3361
On November 13 2011 19:00 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 16:17 pschiu wrote:
On November 13 2011 13:31 RogerX wrote:
On November 13 2011 11:39 randomKo_Orean wrote:
WHAT THE HECK UNICHAN IS A GIRL?!

my mind is blown.

Waitwut. HOLY DOODLY, well I now know I can't determine gender judging by TL's icons.


Eh wait what? It isn't obvious? I'm a newbie to this subforums and I already saw so many people referring to unichan as "her". Plus she sometimes gushes over this and that guy.

Unless it's all some big inside joke.

It used to be a he who was trolling but is unable to get out of character now.


real story: its a she who used to pretend to be a he pretending to be a she but is unable to get out of character now
cool beans
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 10:29:22
November 13 2011 10:25 GMT
#3362
On November 13 2011 14:43 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 12:52 Lorken wrote:
Is it safe to assume that talk on Reddit about Nimbleness getting removed is correct? If so it's pretty damn gay that I just finished buying my dodge runes

It's gone (you probably saw it, but the new masteries are http://na.leagueoflegends.com/masteries-season-two , and nothing resembling nimble is there).


I hope they tweak creep camps otherwise some junglers are going to be pretty nerfed doing certain routes not hitting lvl 2 from Big golems or big buffs, IE no level 1 ganks top or bot next to double golem camps, seeing as how they moved the experience talent to an almost unreachable point for most AD junglers
Edit:wow bladed armor seems kind of OP T.T 6 damage returned to creeps at level one is pretty huge
double edit: Some real crap masteries in there now, 20/40 extra starting gold, 5% extra ward vision? Nerf to swiftness instead of 1-2-3 now .5-1.5-2% movespeed.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 13 2011 10:31 GMT
#3363
On November 13 2011 19:25 Dacendoran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 14:43 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On November 13 2011 12:52 Lorken wrote:
Is it safe to assume that talk on Reddit about Nimbleness getting removed is correct? If so it's pretty damn gay that I just finished buying my dodge runes

It's gone (you probably saw it, but the new masteries are http://na.leagueoflegends.com/masteries-season-two , and nothing resembling nimble is there).


I hope they tweak creep camps otherwise some junglers are going to be pretty nerfed doing certain routes not hitting lvl 2 from Big golems or big buffs, IE no level 1 ganks top or bot next to double golem camps, seeing as how they moved the experience talent to an almost unreachable point for most AD junglers
Edit:wow bladed armor seems kind of OP T.T 6 damage returned to creeps at level one is pretty huge
double edit: Some real crap masteries in there now, 20/40 extra starting gold, 5% extra ward vision? Nerf to swiftness instead of 1-2-3 now .5-1.5-2% movespeed.

Has been discussed over and over, jungle is getting xp buffed.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 11:03:09
November 13 2011 10:52 GMT
#3364
On November 13 2011 11:39 randomKo_Orean wrote:
WHAT THE HECK UNICHAN IS A GIRL?!

my mind is blown.

TIL unichan has a nailpolish blog.
No hate though, I really dig it.
currently rooting for myself.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
November 13 2011 11:12 GMT
#3365
On November 13 2011 19:25 Dacendoran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 14:43 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On November 13 2011 12:52 Lorken wrote:
Is it safe to assume that talk on Reddit about Nimbleness getting removed is correct? If so it's pretty damn gay that I just finished buying my dodge runes

It's gone (you probably saw it, but the new masteries are http://na.leagueoflegends.com/masteries-season-two , and nothing resembling nimble is there).


I hope they tweak creep camps otherwise some junglers are going to be pretty nerfed doing certain routes not hitting lvl 2 from Big golems or big buffs, IE no level 1 ganks top or bot next to double golem camps, seeing as how they moved the experience talent to an almost unreachable point for most AD junglers
Edit:wow bladed armor seems kind of OP T.T 6 damage returned to creeps at level one is pretty huge
double edit: Some real crap masteries in there now, 20/40 extra starting gold, 5% extra ward vision? Nerf to swiftness instead of 1-2-3 now .5-1.5-2% movespeed.


The gold masteries let you start with a Doran's + pot I guess.
wat
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
November 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#3366
I was checking the new masteries, and i see 22 points in utility, that means i wont reach the 3rd lvl in other areas. You think theres anything important in offense/defense 3rd lvl thats worth getting at the price of one less in utility?
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
November 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#3367
Ok so I need some advice for my first rune page I have read most of the guides but I want to check with you. I want a versitile page so I thought going armor yellows, arpen reds, and mp5/lvl blues and health quints would be good for most ad based champs like ezreal and junglers.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
November 13 2011 12:24 GMT
#3368
arp/mpen reds, armor/mp5 yellows, mr/lvl blues, flat hp will work on everything

I run arp reds, armor/mp5 yellows, mr/lvl blues, ad quints on AD carries.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 13 2011 12:24 GMT
#3369
On November 13 2011 21:18 Bwaaaa wrote:
Ok so I need some advice for my first rune page I have read most of the guides but I want to check with you. I want a versitile page so I thought going armor yellows, arpen reds, and mp5/lvl blues and health quints would be good for most ad based champs like ezreal and junglers.

I'd go for flat MR or scaling MR on your blues and probably AD or MS on your quints. Flat health is, in my humble opinion, just not worth it any more.
currently rooting for myself.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 13 2011 12:25 GMT
#3370
Take APen marks, flat Armor seals, flat MRes glyphs and flat AD quints imo. As a next step you can get flat AP quints and MPen marks. Armor seals and MRes glyphs are pretty solid on pretty much every single champ, and cheap on top of it.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#3371
Those news masteries make dodge useless now but the rest seems nice! Casters will hvae to choose between offense & utility and now defense seems a bit better.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 12:51:22
November 13 2011 12:50 GMT
#3372
On November 13 2011 21:43 nojok wrote:
Those news masteries make dodge useless now but the rest seems nice! Casters will hvae to choose between offense & utility and now defense seems a bit better.

Yeah no one ever bought tabi or used dodge runes unless they had nimbleness, team with 3 ad and no cc? mercs all the way!
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 13 2011 13:13 GMT
#3373
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?
currently rooting for myself.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
November 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#3374
Imo they want supports/roamers to spec into utility and the APs/tanks to spec in offence/defence. The movespeed mastery is much higher up so u don't have to invest as many points. Also now defence also have CDR and CDR in offence was very slightly buffed, so that u aren't forced to take utility tree if u need CDR.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 13:29:52
November 13 2011 13:28 GMT
#3375
On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?



I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D).
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
November 13 2011 13:31 GMT
#3376
On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?



I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D).

Funny how you can buy 3 tier 1 movespeed quints for about 500IP and get 2.5% or spend 6k+ for 4.5%.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 13 2011 13:36 GMT
#3377
On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?



I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D).

I do start Boots 3 Pots too, but MS quints give that little edge above your opponent, mostly because they will likely start boots 3 pots as well.
currently rooting for myself.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 13 2011 13:40 GMT
#3378
You can go 0-21-9 on a lot of tanky champs and grab the 3% MS if 70% health or more and 2% from swiftness to have a near permenant MS boost of ~5% instead of the old 0-9-21 or 0-21-9 where you had a perm 3% or no perm boost and got 10% boost from swiftness. That's prob them thinking "we want to get rid of chance but need to nerf numbers to compensate for the MS being more reliable." :/
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
November 13 2011 13:40 GMT
#3379
On November 13 2011 22:31 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?



I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D).

Funny how you can buy 3 tier 1 movespeed quints for about 500IP and get 2.5% or spend 6k+ for 4.5%.

2% too huge of a difference. need every edge i can get =]
(>°_°)>
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
November 13 2011 13:49 GMT
#3380
On November 13 2011 22:40 byFd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 22:31 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:28 h3r1n6 wrote:
On November 13 2011 22:13 Shiv. wrote:
While we are at it, I'd like to start a discussion about caster Quints. I used to run flat AP on basically every AP I played, but when I started maining Katarina, I switched over to MS quints. I decided to try them on other champs like Annie, Brand, Cass, Sion and realized they felt vastly superior over flat AP quints. It's always like DODGE ALL THE PILLARS OF FLAME, OUTRUN ALL THE THINGS, ALWAYS LIVE NEVER DIE!

I don't know, personally, I like them a LOT more than flat AP quints. Opinions?



I don't have the IP for movement speed quints, but I've been meaning to get them for a while. They are basically the only quints that are really useful throughout the whole game. As far as dodging in the lane goes, I usually start boots+3pots anyway, so I don't really need the movement speed for that. More movement speed is always nice to have though (when have you ever thought, nah my lings are fast enough, I don't need to upgrade speed :D).

Funny how you can buy 3 tier 1 movespeed quints for about 500IP and get 2.5% or spend 6k+ for 4.5%.

2% too huge of a difference. need every edge i can get =]

Haha ikr. I love movespeed, I'm always getting 21 utility and movespeed quints on all my champions and constantly thinking - how can I include a FoN, Trinity, PD or Lich bane in my build.
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