100% sure it's not worth my ip to upgrade from halloween to regular. Probably not worth it to buy regular over halloween also. That ip is gonna be more useful picking up rune pages which will give me much more net utility.

On November 14 2011 05:29 infinitestory wrote:
So apparently Scout increases the vision range of your wards as well as your champ... how much is 5% anyway?

only increases ward range unless the wording is wrong

unichan

United States4223 Posts

November 13 2011 20:41 GMT

#3422

Hi I have hot LoL gossip that no one will care about.
Remember saranghaeyo4, that guy who had high elo for the first part of the pre season?
If you were wondering where he went (which you probably aren't) he sold his account which is why it has like 10 straight losses on it.

edit: this isn't even new lol

shinarit

Hungary900 Posts

November 13 2011 20:47 GMT

#3423

On November 14 2011 05:40 UniversalSnip wrote:
100% sure it's not worth my ip to upgrade from halloween to regular. Probably not worth it to buy regular over halloween also. That ip is gonna be more useful picking up rune pages which will give me much more net utility.

Well, i dont see what can we say to convince you. You have limited amount of places to put runes. You should get the best runes you can. Your IP is worth it, its not THAT much more expensive.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

November 13 2011 20:48 GMT

#3424

On November 14 2011 05:47 shinarit wrote:

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Well, i dont see what can we say to convince you. You have limited amount of places to put runes.

I have a much LESS limited number of places to put my runes because I bought discount runes and spent the ip on pages, lol.

There's a reason you're having a hard time coming up with something to convince me I'm wrong, it's because I'm not. it doesn't make sense to be all OCD about marginal rune values.

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

November 13 2011 20:51 GMT

#3425

Wards are 1100 range so 1155 with that mastery.
Edit: beaten cause phone is so slow D:

And it only affects wards from the wording. Not champion vision range :x

Also i'd much rather put the IP i saved for more champs, runes, etc so i can have more fun playing more than worry about negliable amounts of MS...

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

November 13 2011 21:03 GMT

#3426

Show nested quote +

only increases ward range unless the wording is wrong

oh really? >___> wtf that's counterintuitive

anyway, the extra 55 range doesn't sound like a whole lot ;;

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

November 13 2011 21:06 GMT

#3427

On November 14 2011 05:29 gtrsrs wrote:

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while that is true, optimized runes are <free>* and easily acquired, and (optimized runes + actual skill) >> optimized runes OR actual skill, so why not go for the best runes available?

*except for the time sink, obviously

What you say is partially true but ignores the fact that having 4.2% movespeed vs 4.5% movespeed literally does not affect your ability to learn to become a better player at all. If 0.3% movespeed does matter because of big money you're a pro and you're on the tournament server.

On November 14 2011 05:31 Craton wrote:
Meanwhile, two evenly skilled players will have who wins come down to small things like runes and masteries.

It's ignorant to say that having less than the maximum stats will never hurt you.

This is a kind of attitude that promotes raging. People think that a single loss on solo queue every 50 games because three of their runes aren't absolutely perfect is so important that they must always have the maximum advantage possible or else their average elo would drop 5 points. Well, it actually doesn't matter diddly squat. What matters is the fun you have and the stuff you learn.

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Math is not your strong suit, apparently.

0.3% of 400 is 1.2 MS. His math is fine.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

November 13 2011 21:08 GMT

#3428

TSM vs Dignitas round 2, TSM winning atm, just got baron slightly ahead in kills. Apparently TRM's Teemo does do well vs trynd. Oh but they also have a huge lead on towers, now taking out the last middle tower while Dig hasn't taken any towers.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

November 13 2011 21:10 GMT

#3429

Watching tsm vs dignitas atm. Really shows how important buff control is, regi's karthus would have gotten destroyed by kassadin but they took every single one of his blues. Would have been a totally different game.

mr_tolkien

France8631 Posts

November 13 2011 21:16 GMT

#3430

Captain Teemo is just too strong vs Tryndamere !

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

November 13 2011 21:18 GMT

#3431

The real question is if the vision increase is enough to ward the corner of tribush and still see the river (blue side champ warding purple top tribrush) I think at the moment you can BARELY see the river if you place the ward just right, while still having full vision of the 2 tribrush entrances and that brush area. Extra range could mean you can now place that ward and see much more of the river while still seeing the tribrush, meaning you are covered from both gank angles with a single ward.

Craton

United States17281 Posts

November 13 2011 21:19 GMT

#3432

I doubt it'll even be noticeable.

On November 14 2011 06:03 infinitestory wrote:

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oh really? >___> wtf that's counterintuitive

?

Why would "increases vision range of wards by 5%" would make you think it affected champions?

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

November 13 2011 21:28 GMT

#3433

On November 14 2011 06:19 Craton wrote:
I doubt it'll even be noticeable.

Show nested quote +

?

Why would "increases vision range of wards by 5%" would make you think it affected champions?

because im dumb and didnt read the "of wards" part when it was cut off

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

November 13 2011 21:32 GMT

#3434

Lol is TSM going to run jungle Karthus? They also picked Soraka just to get it away from the Dignitas.

skarner, ez, trundle, sona, heimer vs tristina, ali, karthus, soraka, nocturne

Nocturne nvm. Going to be a weird game.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

November 13 2011 21:37 GMT

#3435

Scumbag Riot: "We don't wanna throw any big surprises because it's a tournament patch"
*Completely new mastery tree*

tobi9999

United States1966 Posts

November 13 2011 21:42 GMT

#3436

On November 14 2011 06:37 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Scumbag Riot: "We don't wanna throw any big surprises because it's a tournament patch"
*Completely new mastery tree*

bahahhahahahhahahaaaa

MoonBear

Straight outta Johto18973 Posts

November 13 2011 21:44 GMT

#3437

On November 14 2011 06:42 tobi9999 wrote:

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bahahhahahahhahahaaaa

Iirc, Xerath Patch is going to be used for the rest of the Pre-Season for the Tournament Realm until Season 2 starts, while Fizz Patch is going to be used at the start of Season 2. So in that sense, it's not actually a big surprise.

Shiv.

3534 Posts

November 13 2011 21:54 GMT

#3438

Solo top Soraka. WTF.

NSANE.hydra

United States644 Posts

November 13 2011 21:57 GMT

#3439

so does scout

a) increase the range of only wards that YOU place, and everyone on the team benefits from the increased range, or
b) increase the range of every ward placed on the map by your team, for just you?

assuming b, just wanna make sure though. because it'd be awkward to have people on the team having varying levels of map vision depending on whether they got scout or not...doesn't seem like that great of an idea.