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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:26 Shikyo wrote: The new OP. . . He's seen as a shit champion and everyone calls you anoob if you pick him. However he's OP. That's what I mean. But if you walk too far away from a camp you don't get exp so it isn't THAT auto pilot. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:32 spinesheath wrote: Salce (the 45-1 Vlad) still says Vlad is 100% unplayable. He also said he would have to run "something stupid like a 20 MR runepage" to be able to farm. flat MR glyphs + quints = 27 MR. Though that makes no sense as before Vlad was actually weaker in the earlygame as his cooldowns got buffed. Well, I've been pretty good at calling things in the past, calling Vlad OP solo top soon ;D | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:42 Shikyo wrote: Though that makes no sense as before Vlad was actually weaker in the earlygame as his cooldowns got buffed. Well, I've been pretty good at calling things in the past, calling Vlad OP solo top soon ;D The format is different, that's the entire reason. It's the same reason why sion is suddenly good. People started playing him after the .5 second stun nerf. They didn't buff him, but suddenly he's owning up lanes again. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:55 SnK-Arcbound wrote: The format is different, that's the entire reason. It's the same reason why sion is suddenly good. People started playing him after the .5 second stun nerf. They didn't buff him, but suddenly he's owning up lanes again. Sion is not «OP» at anything, in all objectivity, he is quite a poor AP mid. But he's just so good at punishing mistakes while being quite braindead to play (meaning you won't do any skill related mistakes) that it makes him a strong «pick up and play» champion. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:55 SnK-Arcbound wrote: The format is different, that's the entire reason. It's the same reason why sion is suddenly good. People started playing him after the .5 second stun nerf. They didn't buff him, but suddenly he's owning up lanes again. Format... people afk farm the toplane, Vlad is numbawan afk farmer o.O | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:55 SnK-Arcbound wrote: The format is different, that's the entire reason. It's the same reason why sion is suddenly good. People started playing him after the .5 second stun nerf. They didn't buff him, but suddenly he's owning up lanes again. They did buff him. Sion General: Base Mana increased to 240 from 200 General: Mana per level increased to 40 from 25 General: Base Attack Speed increased to .625 from .591 General: Base Movement Speed increased to 320 from 315 General: Now gains 1.25 Magic Resist per level Fixed a bug where Enrage’s Health cost was being subtracted at the wrong time, causing health drain from things like Sunfire Cape That fixed so many things around sion, especially the mana issues he has (not being able to do more than W+Q and then be oom in lane) | ||
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turamn
United States1374 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:18 turamn wrote: so, just a generalized question for the LoL Pros. I've been running support in our premade 5v5 with reasonable success, though generally running Taric. Our other four people are doing AP Caster mid, AD carry with me in bottom, jungle lee sin, and a tanky dps for solo top. I've been pretty limited in my experience with support champions, but it seems like for an AD heavy team, Taric has the most to provide benefit wise, but I could be completely wrong. Anyone have any other suggestions on support to run with an AD heavy team? Not so much, as to which support you could run, but if you're running triple AD (ad bruiser top, bruiser jungle, ad carry), you could tell your jungler to get an early aegis and rush a starks fervor yourself to buff them up in team fights. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
he is actually very strong overall mid champion. the only reason he wasnt played so much is a tiny little nerf. comparing him to other burst ap champs: gragas pushes as fast and has more aoe overall but doesnt have spammable hard disable. kassadin is more mobile and has 2 very strong disables but pushes much slower. anivia pushes very fast and has strong disables but she has less mobility and is more bluebuff reliant. annie has more burst and aoe depending on ultimate but doesnt push as fast and isnt as mobile. the shield mechanic i wouldnt count as either a positive or negative thing. It can give him both advantages and disadvantages, while certainly it makes him a bit snowbally because of how it scales on him compared to the opponents' farm and abilities. I don't think any of the ap burst champions brings more than sion without letting something out, so he is a fine, strong champion in the end. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Truth is he's a 1v1 melee burster, he doesn't have nearly the AoE most good AP carries do and you seem to love using mobility as a reason despite that making no sense. Also, if Sion is your only AP that's going to be pretty tough for him. Also how about Malzahar, mobility again right? | ||
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:31 Shikyo wrote: Ok seriously, more mobile? Just how is sion more mobile? Because of the extra 10 movespeed? Truth is he's a 1v1 melee burster, he doesn't have nearly the AoE most good AP carries do and you seem to love using mobility as a reason despite that making no sense. Also, if Sion is your only AP that's going to be pretty tough for him. Also how about Malzahar, mobility again right? Are you serious? He has a decent range player based AoE nuke with a 1:1 AP ratio on a 5-6 second cooldown with blue buff which also shields him for a ton of damage as well. He has strong AoE potential. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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turamn
United States1374 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:20 Sponkz wrote: Not so much, as to which support you could run, but if you're running triple AD (ad bruiser top, bruiser jungle, ad carry), you could tell your jungler to get an early aegis and rush a starks fervor yourself to buff them up in team fights. I've been buying both, but obviously they are coming later with most of my gold going to wards / elixirs, but that's not a bad idea. We've been dominating team fights pretty consistently, so pushing that advantage further would be even bette.r. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:57 turamn wrote: I've been buying both, but obviously they are coming later with most of my gold going to wards / elixirs, but that's not a bad idea. We've been dominating team fights pretty consistently, so pushing that advantage further would be even bette.r. Aegis provides most bruisy junglers (noc, udyr, lee sin, gp hell even the more tankier guys like rammus and skarner) with alot of benefitial stats along with the aura for the team, while as a support, you gain alot of un-needed defensive stats, as you should be playing more passively (taric and alistar not included here). Getting starks and leaving the aegis for your jungler, should be something you wanna use if you have a strong mid-game carry. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:37 LoCicero wrote: Are you serious? He has a decent range player based AoE nuke with a 1:1 AP ratio on a 5-6 second cooldown with blue buff which also shields him for a ton of damage as well. He has strong AoE potential. Compared to whom, exactly? Sion's AoE damage is significant, but it isn't quite at the level that many other aoe carries can bring to the table. You can't honestly compare his aoe damage output to, say, anivia's. That isn't to say that it's shabby, though. Sion rices hard and brings huge aoe burst into early team fights with sub 20 minute deathcaps. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On October 31 2011 21:15 Sponkz wrote: They did buff him. Sion General: Base Mana increased to 240 from 200 General: Mana per level increased to 40 from 25 General: Base Attack Speed increased to .625 from .591 General: Base Movement Speed increased to 320 from 315 General: Now gains 1.25 Magic Resist per level Fixed a bug where Enrage’s Health cost was being subtracted at the wrong time, causing health drain from things like Sunfire Cape That fixed so many things around sion, especially the mana issues he has (not being able to do more than W+Q and then be oom in lane) I completely forgot about the increased mana. He clears wave faster than any other ap champion for less mana, and now he can actually cast more than twice before going oom. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
It's pretty insane during midgame though if he manages to sneak between 5 enemies after the major nukes have been blown. Other casters don't have to dive the enemy team to put the AoE down, which allows them to hit more targets more consistently. Anyways, just go 21/0/9 Annie vs Sion, pop shield, auto to death. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
It's too late bro, why didn't you earlier and refused to play a new game bro ? | ||
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