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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 31 2011 06:34 GMT
#3241
l0l Dyrus knows when a song sucks
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
October 31 2011 06:37 GMT
#3242
On October 31 2011 15:22 NoobieOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 15:18 dnastyx wrote:
On October 31 2011 15:15 NoobieOne wrote:
Also I am beginning to wounder about something. The biggest problem in that game was someone on Dignitas probably going to check on one of the streams of CDE and seeing that they were out of position so they were able to take baron. What I am wondering is why do LoL pro players stream important matches. In SC it has become normal to stream from replays to prevent cheating and many players said that if there was such a risk free way to get information that nobody can ever find out then they would do it. LoL needs to take a page from here and turn off their livestreams for the period of the game. Yes we know that they earn a lot of money from their livestreams and their adds and everyone enjoys watching these streams but they need to make a decision what is more important to them.


No replays.


I thought they said that they released replays on the tournament client with spectator mode, guess not. Still they can always upload the first person vods that their stream program can record. Still I don't see why they stream such important matches at all. Even look at the TL Open tournaments, no players who actually see themselves winning stream their matches due to the threat that someone will stream cheat.


No idea on replays for tournament client. Either way, no one has access to those in a usable form right now.

Also, streaming is how these people make money. For some people, it's quite literally their income.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 07:32:28
October 31 2011 07:31 GMT
#3243
On October 31 2011 15:18 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 15:15 NoobieOne wrote:
Also I am beginning to wounder about something. The biggest problem in that game was someone on Dignitas probably going to check on one of the streams of CDE and seeing that they were out of position so they were able to take baron. What I am wondering is why do LoL pro players stream important matches. In SC it has become normal to stream from replays to prevent cheating and many players said that if there was such a risk free way to get information that nobody can ever find out then they would do it. LoL needs to take a page from here and turn off their livestreams for the period of the game. Yes we know that they earn a lot of money from their livestreams and their adds and everyone enjoys watching these streams but they need to make a decision what is more important to them.


No replays.


also 3 min delay, theres no way they can make such a split second call from a stream thats behind by 3 mins.

edit: the most they could possibly get from it is spawn timings, which they know anyways kus they actually pay attention to that stuff
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 31 2011 07:44 GMT
#3244
Last game was so funny At the start the enemy Vayne starts super raging and then everyone is like report vayne! But then I realize that the Vayne's warwick died in the jungle and ganked 0 times, Vaynes Akali teammate had 1 passive at 19min(giggling at that still), Nidalee teammate rushed Tear of the goddess and as said, the Warwick never ganked and died in the jungle.

So in the end, I just couldn't report the Vayne for raging as she actually was playing decently. =P

Also Vlad OP, 12.3 - 2.3 - 4.5 per-game averages now =P
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 07:57:51
October 31 2011 07:57 GMT
#3245
On October 31 2011 16:31 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 15:18 dnastyx wrote:
On October 31 2011 15:15 NoobieOne wrote:
Also I am beginning to wounder about something. The biggest problem in that game was someone on Dignitas probably going to check on one of the streams of CDE and seeing that they were out of position so they were able to take baron. What I am wondering is why do LoL pro players stream important matches. In SC it has become normal to stream from replays to prevent cheating and many players said that if there was such a risk free way to get information that nobody can ever find out then they would do it. LoL needs to take a page from here and turn off their livestreams for the period of the game. Yes we know that they earn a lot of money from their livestreams and their adds and everyone enjoys watching these streams but they need to make a decision what is more important to them.


No replays.


also 3 min delay, theres no way they can make such a split second call from a stream thats behind by 3 mins.

edit: the most they could possibly get from it is spawn timings, which they know anyways kus they actually pay attention to that stuff

Besides, if you watch any of a number of weekly tournaments in SC2 players that stream will often stream their tournament games.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
October 31 2011 08:06 GMT
#3246
On October 31 2011 16:44 Shikyo wrote:
Last game was so funny At the start the enemy Vayne starts super raging and then everyone is like report vayne! But then I realize that the Vayne's warwick died in the jungle and ganked 0 times, Vaynes Akali teammate had 1 passive at 19min(giggling at that still), Nidalee teammate rushed Tear of the goddess and as said, the Warwick never ganked and died in the jungle.

So in the end, I just couldn't report the Vayne for raging as she actually was playing decently. =P

Also Vlad OP, 12.3 - 2.3 - 4.5 per-game averages now =P


How do you build vlad?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 31 2011 08:07 GMT
#3247
I assume shikyo plays him gunblade
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
October 31 2011 08:09 GMT
#3248
real men build gunblade/atmogs/rylais. true story.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 08:17:38
October 31 2011 08:16 GMT
#3249
What do you think of Manamume Ashe? Shushei builds it together with Sword of the Occult. Late game he transitions into standard BT, PD build.

I think it's very nice if your team lacks poking abilities, but i don't know if your damage output isn't way lower than a standard AD carry build.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 31 2011 08:18 GMT
#3250
On October 31 2011 16:44 Shikyo wrote:
Last game was so funny At the start the enemy Vayne starts super raging and then everyone is like report vayne! But then I realize that the Vayne's warwick died in the jungle and ganked 0 times, Vaynes Akali teammate had 1 passive at 19min(giggling at that still), Nidalee teammate rushed Tear of the goddess and as said, the Warwick never ganked and died in the jungle.

So in the end, I just couldn't report the Vayne for raging as she actually was playing decently. =P

Also Vlad OP, 12.3 - 2.3 - 4.5 per-game averages now =P


how do u die in the jungle as ww?

literally if you just attack you can manage it. he must have pressed s and gotten tea or something
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
October 31 2011 08:21 GMT
#3251
On October 31 2011 16:31 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 15:18 dnastyx wrote:
On October 31 2011 15:15 NoobieOne wrote:
Also I am beginning to wounder about something. The biggest problem in that game was someone on Dignitas probably going to check on one of the streams of CDE and seeing that they were out of position so they were able to take baron. What I am wondering is why do LoL pro players stream important matches. In SC it has become normal to stream from replays to prevent cheating and many players said that if there was such a risk free way to get information that nobody can ever find out then they would do it. LoL needs to take a page from here and turn off their livestreams for the period of the game. Yes we know that they earn a lot of money from their livestreams and their adds and everyone enjoys watching these streams but they need to make a decision what is more important to them.


No replays.


also 3 min delay, theres no way they can make such a split second call from a stream thats behind by 3 mins.

edit: the most they could possibly get from it is spawn timings, which they know anyways kus they actually pay attention to that stuff


I think in one of the games it was paused for at least 5-6 minutes.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 08:41:34
October 31 2011 08:34 GMT
#3252
On October 31 2011 17:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
I assume shikyo plays him gunblade

Not viable anymore after the nerf.


It's cdr boots + spirit visage + wota -> Rylai Deathcap Void for me.

After Rylai you always chase never get chased huehue


As a sidenote, I believe that Vlad is now stronger than ever(after revolver stacking was removed). His earlygame is much better because of the cooldown changes and the Rylai gives him a 35% permaslow which makes him invulnerable vs any bruiser.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 31 2011 08:35 GMT
#3253
On October 31 2011 14:24 redtooth wrote:
wait. am i hearing this right? HS is complaining that RIOT/WCG was biased...

+ Show Spoiler +
EL OH EL HAHAHHAHA



HAHAHA INDEED.

They literally postponed WCG Canada an entire month for CLG. And when the schedules were finally up, CLG didn't show up for their game so they other team submitted a win (they showed up) and then WCG admins were like "Nah sorry brahs we aren't accepting walk overs atm."

ANYWAYS haters gonna hate Dignitas you ma bois. At least one of my WCG Canada team is going to WCG. LOL.
Retvrn to Forvms
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
October 31 2011 10:32 GMT
#3254
My god, I looked at Riot forums competitive play section, and man were people quick to spam on the WCG thing. A whole page and a half of threads and posts in one night of people spazzing out over it. It was worse than trying to sift through reddit waste. Boy I am glad that TL is moderated well. Looked to see if there was any official statements or what not from RIOT or WCG, but all I got was rabid fanboys acting like clowns. I think I will stay away from there in the future and stay here where it is safe XD
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
October 31 2011 11:01 GMT
#3255
Jungle heimerdinger on saint's stream LOL.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 31 2011 11:03 GMT
#3256
Vlad the new OP sustain toplaner.

[image loading]

Discuss.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 11:18:16
October 31 2011 11:13 GMT
#3257
On October 31 2011 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
Discuss.

He's not new. :|

On October 31 2011 20:01 Bwaaaa wrote:
Jungle heimerdinger on saint's stream LOL.

Easiest jungle ever. lol Throw skill, put turret, go away, camp cleared.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 31 2011 11:23 GMT
#3258
Bad monkey loci. Just because it's like 4am doesn't mean you shouldn't stream.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 31 2011 11:26 GMT
#3259
On October 31 2011 20:13 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
Discuss.

He's not new. :|

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 20:01 Bwaaaa wrote:
Jungle heimerdinger on saint's stream LOL.

Easiest jungle ever. lol Throw skill, put turret, go away, camp cleared.

The new OP. . .

He's seen as a shit champion and everyone calls you anoob if you pick him. However he's OP. That's what I mean.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 31 2011 11:32 GMT
#3260
Salce (the 45-1 Vlad) still says Vlad is 100% unplayable. He also said he would have to run "something stupid like a 20 MR runepage" to be able to farm.

flat MR glyphs + quints = 27 MR.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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