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[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 104
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
I was bored today so I looked at your tumblr. Really liked the 1st page so I've browsed through like 10 or so. Somewhere in between, I found this glorious peace of art. Seriously. How good is Arrested Development? | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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Kyhron
United States945 Posts
On October 27 2011 01:45 clickrush wrote: still thinking that graves' kit is nothing out of ordinary while his passive is what makes him broken. the guy just doesnt take any damage. its not his kit its the scalling on everything imo. his passive just makes it more so cuz once it gets stacked he takes no damage then heals it off in 2 seconds | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 27 2011 01:50 Kyhron wrote: its not his kit its the scalling on everything imo. his passive just makes it more so cuz once it gets stacked he takes no damage then heals it off in 2 seconds His passive is the crux of the problem I think. His QWER kit is ok, but add in full GRIT bonus, he can dash in with inpunity. They were talking about Graves on SotL and Dan Dinh suggested either a nerf to the numbers or stacks, but not both and I agree with him. It's too easy for Graves to gain his full passive and at max it's just silly. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 27 2011 01:45 clickrush wrote: still thinking that graves' kit is nothing out of ordinary while his passive is what makes him broken. the guy just doesnt take any damage. Meh, 40 Armor/MR isn't even a Chain Vest or NMM. It's strong, but not so much more so than most passives. It seems strong, I think, because it's the only real defensive aspect to any AD carry, aside from Urgot's shield. Every other carry is 100% offensively oriented in their abilities, so mixing in a bit of defensiveness seems broken. Honestly, I think, after playing against and as him, his numbers just need to be tweaked and he'll be fine. The thing about him is that he's a burst character with good auto damage as well. Ezreal also fits into this box, but doesn't have that same measure of base damage, and can do it from a range. Corki also has good burst, but no AS steroid. I don't think his E AS boost needs to be that high. Maybe tone it down to 65% or 70% max from 80%, or reduce/remove the innate CDR. I think it'd be better if the CDR thing only worked on champions and not neutral monsters/minions. Edit: I think the idea behind his passive is that, with his short range and Q, he wants to be in combat close range. Not good with a squishy, so make him less so, encourage him to be close up. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
if some one picks him there's a bazillion champions to lane against him that counter him hard. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:08 Brees wrote: talon is one of the worst characters in the game no joke if some one picks him there's a bazillion champions to lane against him that counter him hard. Counterpick the talon counterpick and put talon in jungle or in another lane?? | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:09 JackDino wrote: Counterpick the talon counterpick and put talon in jungle or in another lane?? he loses pretty much every top lane so you only have to change your mid lane pick. Talon can't jungle at all | ||
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Craton
United States17233 Posts
lol no. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:09 JackDino wrote: Counterpick the talon counterpick and put talon in jungle or in another lane?? I can't get my last pick to jungle when there is no jungler in my team and you are able to convince people to do all that? | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:16 Craton wrote: It's just so hard to farm with a champ who can aoe waves for low mana... lol no. ill be glad to test it with you. you play talon, ill play any common top lane champion. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Id also like for e not to be perma up with a PD at level 18. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:20 Brees wrote: ill be glad to test it with you. you play talon, ill play any common top lane champion. Why put him top when he's clearly better mid, though? Run something stupid like Ryze/Talon with 2x Teleport and out-lane-switch the enemy team imoimo. Then again, I'm totally bad at this game. No clue if it would work, I just don't see it not working. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:24 spinesheath wrote: Don't firstpick Talon, problem solved. As soon as the enemy team has one champ he is good against, he can crush that champ. Top, mid, bot, he doesn't care where you send that champ, Talon follows. And early laning kinda is his only weakness. switch to armor yellows, problem solved. | ||
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Craton
United States17233 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:20 Brees wrote: ill be glad to test it with you. you play talon, ill play any common top lane champion. I don't play Talon. And I once again laugh at you, only this time for doing the internet equivalent of "lets fight by the flagpole." If you're losing every lane as Talon, the problem is you. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:25 Shiv. wrote: Why put him top when he's clearly better mid, though? Run something stupid like Ryze/Talon with 2x Teleport and out-lane-switch the enemy team imoimo. Then again, I'm totally bad at this game. No clue if it would work, I just don't see it not working. he specifically refuted my top lane claim. | ||
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