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[Patch 1.0.0.127: Graves] General Discussion - Page 103

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byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
October 26 2011 14:06 GMT
#2041
sounds crazy^^
would just build him tanky, perma slow all oponents and let your team destroy them :D
(>°_°)>
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 26 2011 14:24 GMT
#2042
Most All dota characters sound crazy in the context of LoL.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 26 2011 14:24 GMT
#2043
Unrelated to anything:
thanks to the badass that phrost is, I have a new desktop background.

[image loading]

related:
do you think a 24/7 (well, not exactly, but you get the point) counterjungling Shaco is as viable as one putting more of his time into ganks?
currently rooting for myself.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 14:28:41
October 26 2011 14:27 GMT
#2044
For dedicated counterjungling/ganking to work, someone needs to be clearing the jungle on your side.

Aside from that, you can't be counterjungling in the viscinity of a lane in which your teammate is losing or clearly weaker, so you need to establish lane dominance first.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
October 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#2045
On October 26 2011 22:46 Phrost wrote:
R turns you into a dragon, giving you a ranged attack and something special depending on what level it was
6 - red dragon - shoot aoe fireballs
12 - green dragon - shoot poison, deals damage over time to units, extra damage to towers
18 - blue dragon - aoe frost attack, slowed movement and attack speed

Pretty sure green dragon is ult level 1 and red dragon is ult level 2 http://www.playdota.com/heroes/dragon-knight
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 15:12:34
October 26 2011 15:06 GMT
#2046
I really hope they nerf Talon. Now I understand why hes one of the favoured bans.

I was mid laning as Cait against Talon and I was outlaning him, lol at like level 5/6 he just nukes me and takes more than 50% of my hp away and eventually I die a lot to it, I mean wtf its crazy. Oh and Graves scaling is ridiculous.

He can do everything. Invisible, charge, silence, damage, double aoe has a getaway and aoe again etc. The new champions are pretty ridiculous and its much much more difficult now.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 26 2011 15:07 GMT
#2047
On October 26 2011 23:24 Shiv. wrote:
related:
do you think a 24/7 (well, not exactly, but you get the point) counterjungling Shaco is as viable as one putting more of his time into ganks?

Situational. Depends on the state of the game, which threats are most relevant, the risks of each based on the junglers/laners involved, etc.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 26 2011 15:14 GMT
#2048
On October 26 2011 23:24 Shiv. wrote:
Unrelated to anything:
thanks to the badass that phrost is, I have a new desktop background.

[image loading]

related:
do you think a 24/7 (well, not exactly, but you get the point) counterjungling Shaco is as viable as one putting more of his time into ganks?


what did i do?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
October 26 2011 15:17 GMT
#2049
On October 26 2011 16:46 R04R wrote:
Called SOLO TOP OLAF for about 15 queues... all dodging me with eves and twitches or trying to take my spot top... finally get a game...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
FUCK YEAH REDEMPTION


Wat, 15ppl dodging an Olaf top on Normal games ? o_O
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 26 2011 15:18 GMT
#2050
On October 27 2011 00:17 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 16:46 R04R wrote:
Called SOLO TOP OLAF for about 15 queues... all dodging me with eves and twitches or trying to take my spot top... finally get a game...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
FUCK YEAH REDEMPTION


Wat, 15ppl dodging an Olaf top on Normal games ? o_O


Normal ELO is super serious. You should see the glares I got when I pick Jungle Heimer.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23440 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 15:21:23
October 26 2011 15:20 GMT
#2051
Fervent apologies when someone picks and then the team realizes that we don't, in fact, *gasps, have an AD carry .

Normal games some ppl take super seriously lol.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 15:25:32
October 26 2011 15:23 GMT
#2052
On October 26 2011 16:19 isM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:33 Takkara wrote:
I saw this posted on the LoL boards apparently from Dignitas:

Hello,

Apparently, some people are upset because I raised a concern to Chauster about what an admin told me regarding the WCG Qualifier Finals for a trip to Korea. I would like to ask you guys to put down your pitchforks and calm down for a second.

What happened was that we beat CDE in the Winner's Bracket for WCG and they got sent down to Loser's bracket which they beat Curse in and came into Championship which they had to play against us. Going into this, we believed we had a one game advantage, meaning that we had to win one game to Qualify, and that CDE would have to win two in a row. We were feeling good going into it but CDE played amazingly well and crushed us twice in a row. From this point we believed that CDE would indeed be going to Korea and while disappointing, we accepted that we got out played.

The recent issues that have emerged is that someone who participated in WCG Canada told me that the rules they should have used in the Championship round for Canada was a weighted 3 set system, with the winner's bracket having an additional set. I thought that this was curious because everyone believed that the WCG USA was a single set, weighted best of three with a game advantage to the Winner's bracket.

Naturally curious, I sent a WCG admin an email wondering whether the finals were supposed to be single set or three, and received a response telling me that we would have to play an additional set to determine the winner of WCG USA versus CDE. I was naturally shocked about this and brought this up to Chauster in private who was shocked as well, and brought this up to the rest of his team. I simply restate what the WCG admin had told me and while we were both confused, I tried to rationalize why they would have this policy for the Championship match for the National Qualifier even when the rules stated that it would be a single set best of three.

From this point on, things went out of control and people started spouting off nonsense about us trying to cheese out another chance at qualifying for Korea. Make no mistake, we would have loved to go to Korea, but we understand that CDE out played us in the final round and deserve to go. We by no means demanded another set or tried to act shady, I just brought up what the admin told me to Chauster.

I would really appreciate if you guys calm down for a second and reevaluate the situation from our perspective without the bias that obviously angered players from the opposing team may hold. Make no mistake, I would be angry in their situation as well.

Personally, I believe that the admin was simply mistaken and that the finals are finished, and I have sent him a follow up email to please read the rules and make sure what he is telling us is correct. We are waiting on a reply but we are confident that CDE will indeed be going to Korea to represent the United States.

We wish them the best of luck and to have fun in their endeavors. I apologize for the confusion.

Sincerely,
Voyboy of Team Dignitas


I don't have an exact link but saw it in this thread first:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1407841


Its hard to hate Voyboy even if the rest of that team is pretty despicable.
How can you dislike Scarra .


On October 27 2011 00:18 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 00:17 -Zoda- wrote:
On October 26 2011 16:46 R04R wrote:
Called SOLO TOP OLAF for about 15 queues... all dodging me with eves and twitches or trying to take my spot top... finally get a game...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
FUCK YEAH REDEMPTION


Wat, 15ppl dodging an Olaf top on Normal games ? o_O


Normal ELO is super serious. You should see the glares I got when I pick Jungle Heimer.

My normal elo must be something like 500, all I do is play silly shit in normals. Everyone must hate me.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 15:25:23
October 26 2011 15:25 GMT
#2053
DOH DOUBLE POST
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 26 2011 15:57 GMT
#2054
On October 26 2011 22:18 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
female + dragon = instabuy


How sadistic. You just want to slay her, you dragon killer.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 16:05:55
October 26 2011 16:00 GMT
#2055
I think Graves might be OP. I've been playing Dominion and using The Tasteless Build item build and have been killing it. 2v1 Nocturn and Jax under their tower I just took for a double kill. 5v1 under the same tower for 2 more kills before I marder, and my team 4 caps. He's got better damage than any carry, and when you get storm shield you can play him like a bruiser, dash in q from point blank and drop champs in two seconds. I'm not good at ranged carries, but I've played 3 dominion games with him and got first every time with a 7 - 1 kda ratio.

Edit: Changed Phreak's build to The Tasteless Build because we all know Phreak took the build from Tasteless.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 16:02:36
October 26 2011 16:02 GMT
#2056
On October 27 2011 01:00 Sabin010 wrote:
Phreak's item build

It's called the Tasteless build.
The legend of Darien lives on
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 26 2011 16:04 GMT
#2057
On October 27 2011 00:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 22:18 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
female + dragon = instabuy


How sadistic. You just want to slay her, you dragon killer.


tee hee

*plays with sona in mute silence*
cool beans
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 26 2011 16:26 GMT
#2058
On October 27 2011 00:06 RogerX wrote:
I really hope they nerf Talon. Now I understand why hes one of the favoured bans.

I was mid laning as Cait against Talon and I was outlaning him, lol at like level 5/6 he just nukes me and takes more than 50% of my hp away and eventually I die a lot to it, I mean wtf its crazy. Oh and Graves scaling is ridiculous.

He can do everything. Invisible, charge, silence, damage, double aoe has a getaway and aoe again etc. The new champions are pretty ridiculous and its much much more difficult now.


Talon is... I dunno. He does Assassin levels of damage, but he just seems better at it than most. Burst, control (silence, slow), and mobility from low levels.

I think his issue is that he gets his gap closer and burst at such low levels. Akali and Kass have to wait until their ult to have a gap closer, Poppy doesn't get her "fuck you I'm Poppy" until ult (though dat passive), Nocturne's gap closer (trail) is really predictable and can't jump on unsuspecting people until 6.

Most assassins rely on their ult for part of their combo, or need items to be good. Those that don't need items, fall off late game because they don't scale as well. Talon scales well (so he's good late game), but has high base damage as well. His burst doesn't rely on his ult, it just magnifies it. QWE can do enough damage on it's own. And because of that he has a stupid good early game that snowballs into a stupid good late game.

The only thing he lacks is sustain, so the obvious counter is to harass him and make him go back, right? Not really, since with his charge/silence/bleed he can harass back and be relatively safe, and can poke through creep waves very well with Rake. So he's strong in lane, anti-carry burst with moderate to good CC and a damage/escape tool.

Perhaps not OP, but on that Lee Sin level of "oh what the fuck who designed this and why can't all champs be this good?".
It's your boy Guzma!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 26 2011 16:34 GMT
#2059
Talon is like the only assassin that goes in and out and does his damage while going out avoiding taking any damage at the same time.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 26 2011 16:37 GMT
#2060
Play Graves for the first time finally and he's so trolol. He's kit is a tad too strong compared to the other AD carries but he's very fun. I probably have the most trouble finding the best place to place smokescreen defensively. Offensively it's pretty easy. :X
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
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