would just build him tanky, perma slow all oponents and let your team destroy them :D
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byFd
Germany620 Posts
would just build him tanky, perma slow all oponents and let your team destroy them :D | ||
Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
thanks to the badass that phrost is, I have a new desktop background. ![]() related: do you think a 24/7 (well, not exactly, but you get the point) counterjungling Shaco is as viable as one putting more of his time into ganks? | ||
Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Aside from that, you can't be counterjungling in the viscinity of a lane in which your teammate is losing or clearly weaker, so you need to establish lane dominance first. | ||
Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On October 26 2011 22:46 Phrost wrote: R turns you into a dragon, giving you a ranged attack and something special depending on what level it was 6 - red dragon - shoot aoe fireballs 12 - green dragon - shoot poison, deals damage over time to units, extra damage to towers 18 - blue dragon - aoe frost attack, slowed movement and attack speed Pretty sure green dragon is ult level 1 and red dragon is ult level 2 http://www.playdota.com/heroes/dragon-knight | ||
RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
I was mid laning as Cait against Talon and I was outlaning him, lol at like level 5/6 he just nukes me and takes more than 50% of my hp away and eventually I die a lot to it, I mean wtf its crazy. Oh and Graves scaling is ridiculous. He can do everything. Invisible, charge, silence, damage, double aoe has a getaway and aoe again etc. The new champions are pretty ridiculous and its much much more difficult now. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 26 2011 23:24 Shiv. wrote: related: do you think a 24/7 (well, not exactly, but you get the point) counterjungling Shaco is as viable as one putting more of his time into ganks? Situational. Depends on the state of the game, which threats are most relevant, the risks of each based on the junglers/laners involved, etc. | ||
Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On October 26 2011 23:24 Shiv. wrote: Unrelated to anything: thanks to the badass that phrost is, I have a new desktop background. ![]() related: do you think a 24/7 (well, not exactly, but you get the point) counterjungling Shaco is as viable as one putting more of his time into ganks? what did i do? | ||
-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On October 26 2011 16:46 R04R wrote: Called SOLO TOP OLAF for about 15 queues... all dodging me with eves and twitches or trying to take my spot top... finally get a game... + Show Spoiler + Wat, 15ppl dodging an Olaf top on Normal games ? o_O | ||
Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On October 27 2011 00:17 -Zoda- wrote: Wat, 15ppl dodging an Olaf top on Normal games ? o_O Normal ELO is super serious. You should see the glares I got when I pick Jungle Heimer. | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Normal games some ppl take super seriously lol. | ||
Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On October 26 2011 16:19 isM wrote: How can you dislike Scarra Its hard to hate Voyboy even if the rest of that team is pretty despicable. ![]() On October 27 2011 00:18 Cixah wrote: Normal ELO is super serious. You should see the glares I got when I pick Jungle Heimer. My normal elo must be something like 500, all I do is play silly shit in normals. Everyone must hate me. | ||
Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 26 2011 22:18 nyxnyxnyx wrote: female + dragon = instabuy How sadistic. You just want to slay her, you dragon killer. | ||
Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
Edit: Changed Phreak's build to The Tasteless Build because we all know Phreak took the build from Tasteless. | ||
mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On October 27 2011 01:00 Sabin010 wrote: Phreak's item build It's called the Tasteless build. | ||
nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On October 27 2011 00:57 NeoIllusions wrote: How sadistic. You just want to slay her, you dragon killer. tee hee *plays with sona in mute silence* | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 27 2011 00:06 RogerX wrote: I really hope they nerf Talon. Now I understand why hes one of the favoured bans. I was mid laning as Cait against Talon and I was outlaning him, lol at like level 5/6 he just nukes me and takes more than 50% of my hp away and eventually I die a lot to it, I mean wtf its crazy. Oh and Graves scaling is ridiculous. He can do everything. Invisible, charge, silence, damage, double aoe has a getaway and aoe again etc. The new champions are pretty ridiculous and its much much more difficult now. Talon is... I dunno. He does Assassin levels of damage, but he just seems better at it than most. Burst, control (silence, slow), and mobility from low levels. I think his issue is that he gets his gap closer and burst at such low levels. Akali and Kass have to wait until their ult to have a gap closer, Poppy doesn't get her "fuck you I'm Poppy" until ult (though dat passive), Nocturne's gap closer (trail) is really predictable and can't jump on unsuspecting people until 6. Most assassins rely on their ult for part of their combo, or need items to be good. Those that don't need items, fall off late game because they don't scale as well. Talon scales well (so he's good late game), but has high base damage as well. His burst doesn't rely on his ult, it just magnifies it. QWE can do enough damage on it's own. And because of that he has a stupid good early game that snowballs into a stupid good late game. The only thing he lacks is sustain, so the obvious counter is to harass him and make him go back, right? Not really, since with his charge/silence/bleed he can harass back and be relatively safe, and can poke through creep waves very well with Rake. So he's strong in lane, anti-carry burst with moderate to good CC and a damage/escape tool. Perhaps not OP, but on that Lee Sin level of "oh what the fuck who designed this and why can't all champs be this good?". | ||
JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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