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Wowza brb stalking this lady.
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I've been searching for a Talon guide, couldnt see anything specific apart from some discussion. With the mana regen fix, do you guys still go armor yellows or would you go manaregen runes?
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I saw this posted on the LoL boards apparently from Dignitas:
Hello,
Apparently, some people are upset because I raised a concern to Chauster about what an admin told me regarding the WCG Qualifier Finals for a trip to Korea. I would like to ask you guys to put down your pitchforks and calm down for a second.
What happened was that we beat CDE in the Winner's Bracket for WCG and they got sent down to Loser's bracket which they beat Curse in and came into Championship which they had to play against us. Going into this, we believed we had a one game advantage, meaning that we had to win one game to Qualify, and that CDE would have to win two in a row. We were feeling good going into it but CDE played amazingly well and crushed us twice in a row. From this point we believed that CDE would indeed be going to Korea and while disappointing, we accepted that we got out played.
The recent issues that have emerged is that someone who participated in WCG Canada told me that the rules they should have used in the Championship round for Canada was a weighted 3 set system, with the winner's bracket having an additional set. I thought that this was curious because everyone believed that the WCG USA was a single set, weighted best of three with a game advantage to the Winner's bracket.
Naturally curious, I sent a WCG admin an email wondering whether the finals were supposed to be single set or three, and received a response telling me that we would have to play an additional set to determine the winner of WCG USA versus CDE. I was naturally shocked about this and brought this up to Chauster in private who was shocked as well, and brought this up to the rest of his team. I simply restate what the WCG admin had told me and while we were both confused, I tried to rationalize why they would have this policy for the Championship match for the National Qualifier even when the rules stated that it would be a single set best of three.
From this point on, things went out of control and people started spouting off nonsense about us trying to cheese out another chance at qualifying for Korea. Make no mistake, we would have loved to go to Korea, but we understand that CDE out played us in the final round and deserve to go. We by no means demanded another set or tried to act shady, I just brought up what the admin told me to Chauster.
I would really appreciate if you guys calm down for a second and reevaluate the situation from our perspective without the bias that obviously angered players from the opposing team may hold. Make no mistake, I would be angry in their situation as well.
Personally, I believe that the admin was simply mistaken and that the finals are finished, and I have sent him a follow up email to please read the rules and make sure what he is telling us is correct. We are waiting on a reply but we are confident that CDE will indeed be going to Korea to represent the United States.
We wish them the best of luck and to have fun in their endeavors. I apologize for the confusion.
Sincerely,
Voyboy of Team Dignitas
I don't have an exact link but saw it in this thread first:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1407841
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I'm confused why are you guys talking about WCG Canada again? Didn't CLG already qualify?
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United States37500 Posts
On October 26 2011 13:28 sermokala wrote:
I thought we where getting some 9 tailed fox action hero going on at some point. why the fuck would they tease a champ like that and just forget it for a few months?
They announced WuKong at least 4 patches in advance as well.
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On October 26 2011 13:34 Chrispy wrote:
I'm confused why are you guys talking about WCG Canada again? Didn't CLG already qualify?
Back a couple pages there's a link to Rinoaa saying that both the WCG Canada and WCG USA would have to complete the best of 3 sets format.
For CDE that means they are tied 1 set to 1 set with Dignitas with one final best of 3 to play to decide the winner.
It's unclear what that means for CLG Canada. They're up 1-0 in sets and 1-0 in games in the 2nd set. They just need to win one more game, or win the following 3rd set in order to "re-win" the right to go to Korea.
Of course, with all the mistakes between WCG and Riot, Rinoaa might have NO idea what she's talking about. But that's what she said.
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On October 26 2011 13:34 Chrispy wrote:
I'm confused why are you guys talking about WCG Canada again? Didn't CLG already qualify?
Same reason as WCG USA, they`re saying that CLG Canada has to play again as well
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Vancouver14381 Posts
On October 26 2011 13:42 Takkara wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 13:34 Chrispy wrote:
I'm confused why are you guys talking about WCG Canada again? Didn't CLG already qualify? Back a couple pages there's a link to Rinoaa saying that both the WCG Canada and WCG USA would have to complete the best of 3 sets format. For CDE that means they are tied 1 set to 1 set with Dignitas with one final best of 3 to play to decide the winner. It's unclear what that means for CLG Canada. They're up 1-0 in sets and 1-0 in games in the 2nd set. They just need to win one more game, or win the following 3rd set in order to "re-win" the right to go to Korea. Of course, with all the mistakes between WCG and Riot, Rinoaa might have NO idea what she's talking about. But that's what she said.
I don't get why the upper bracket winner would get a 1-0 lead if they are playing it in terms of sets. They are just mixing the two types of tournament format up. The standard double elimination format from what I've seen in volleyball (something that I officiate) is that the winner from the upper bracket needs to lose 2 matches (or sets in WCG's case) before they're out since that's the definition of double elim - you need to lose twice in order to get eliminated. They also just need to win once (so it's like a 1 match advantage) to be the champion since the lower bracket winner has already lost once to be knocked down in the first place. The reasoning behind a 1-0 advantage is so that they can finish the grand finals in 1 bo3. So now they're giving the upper bracket winner a 1-0 lead and a true double elim format....it's just way too stacked.
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On October 26 2011 14:05 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 13:42 Takkara wrote:On October 26 2011 13:34 Chrispy wrote:
I'm confused why are you guys talking about WCG Canada again? Didn't CLG already qualify? Back a couple pages there's a link to Rinoaa saying that both the WCG Canada and WCG USA would have to complete the best of 3 sets format. For CDE that means they are tied 1 set to 1 set with Dignitas with one final best of 3 to play to decide the winner. It's unclear what that means for CLG Canada. They're up 1-0 in sets and 1-0 in games in the 2nd set. They just need to win one more game, or win the following 3rd set in order to "re-win" the right to go to Korea. Of course, with all the mistakes between WCG and Riot, Rinoaa might have NO idea what she's talking about. But that's what she said. I don't get why the upper bracket winner would get a 1-0 lead if they are playing it in terms of sets. They are just mixing the two types of tournament format up. The standard double elimination format from what I've seen in volleyball (something that I officiate) is that the winner from the upper bracket needs to lose 2 matches (or sets in WCG's case) before they're out since that's the definition of double elim - you need to lose twice in order to get eliminated. They also just need to win once (so it's like a 1 match advantage) to be the champion since the lower bracket winner has already lost once to be knocked down in the first place. The reasoning behind a 1-0 advantage is so that they can finish the grand finals in 1 bo3. So now they're giving the upper bracket winner a 1-0 lead and a true double elim format....it's just way too stacked.
I think that CLG Canada gets the 1-0 lead in the 2nd set because they already won a game (which they mistakenly thought won them the trip to Korea). So they were spotted the 1-0 set because they were from the upper bracket. In the 2nd set, they won the only game they played, so they have a 1-0 lead. But I don't mean to pretend like we can use logic to make sense of this situation. We have no way to know what they'll invent to do with this situation.
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Can we just talk about the awesome new Q particle on ghost Nocturne?
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It doesn`t even make sense for league to be more than one bo3. Can you imagine how long it would take to play 2 bo3?
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Alright well from what I know..
Our team knocked Jpak to the losers bracket, CLG knocked us to the losers bracket, we thought we had to beat CLG in a weighted bo3 (so they would have to lose twice, us only once) so we pussied out and forfeited(? not even sure tbh, suddenly we were out of the tourney afaik.. maybe our leader did something else) vs Jpak and friends (and there was a bunch of Jatt shenanigans, but we had 6 players so it didn't truly matter. Jpak and friends then had to play a weighted bo3 vs CLG, lost their first game and CLG wins da tourney??
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On October 26 2011 14:27 Chrispy wrote:
Alright well from what I know..
Our team knocked Jpak to the losers bracket, CLG knocked us to the losers bracket, we thought we had to beat CLG in a weighted bo3 (so they would have to lose twice, us only once) so we pussied out and forfeited(? not even sure tbh, suddenly we were out of the tourney afaik.. maybe our leader did something else) vs Jpak and friends (and there was a bunch of Jatt shenanigans, but we had 6 players so it didn't truly matter. Jpak and friends then had to play a weighted bo3 vs CLG, lost their first game and CLG wins da tourney??
According to the ruleset posted on WCG, the winners bracket finalist had a 1 game advantage going into a best of 3 to decide the representative. Therefore by winning that game, CLG won the best of 3 2-0 and became the Canada representative.
It turns out that what WCG actually MEANT, but never actually TOLD anyone was that it was supposed to be a best of 3 best of 3s, and the winners bracket finalist had a 1 set advantage, meaning they needed to win a best of 3 to advance, while the loser would have to win 2 bests of 3 to advance.
What this means is that CLG needs to go back and win 1 more game in that best of 3 to win, or should they lose that best of 3, win the second one.
So based on what was posted on the site, both series are done with CDE and CLG advancing.
However, WCG THOUGHT that CLG had played out an entire best of three, and therefore they THOUGHT that what happened in US was not consistent. So they went back and mandated that they play another best of 3. HOWEVER, now realizing they fucked up, they are going to make their newfound inconsistency consistent by making CLG go back and play more.
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On October 26 2011 14:27 Chrispy wrote:
Alright well from what I know..
Our team knocked Jpak to the losers bracket, CLG knocked us to the losers bracket, we thought we had to beat CLG in a weighted bo3 (so they would have to lose twice, us only once) so we pussied out and forfeited(? not even sure tbh, suddenly we were out of the tourney afaik.. maybe our leader did something else) vs Jpak and friends (and there was a bunch of Jatt shenanigans, but we had 6 players so it didn't truly matter. Jpak and friends then had to play a weighted bo3 vs CLG, lost their first game and CLG wins da tourney??
That's what everyone thought. But after WCG USA it was revealed that WCG actually wanted both Canada and US to play a best of 3 of sets of best of 3 games (maximum of 9 games). Instead of the winning team being up 1 game in best of 3 series, they were up 1 best of 3 in a set of best of 3s. So when Jpak lost their first game, they just lost the first game of the 2nd set of their best of 3. So they're down 1 set by coming from the loser bracket, and down 1 game in the 2nd set by losing to CLG. If Rinoaa is correct, CLG will be forced to complete the rest of series in order to go to Korea.
Same with CDE. They have to play one more best of 3 against Dignitas, winner takes all for Korea.
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On October 26 2011 14:27 Chrispy wrote:
Alright well from what I know..
Our team knocked Jpak to the losers bracket, CLG knocked us to the losers bracket, we thought we had to beat CLG in a weighted bo3 (so they would have to lose twice, us only once) so we pussied out and forfeited(? not even sure tbh, suddenly we were out of the tourney afaik.. maybe our leader did something else) vs Jpak and friends (and there was a bunch of Jatt shenanigans, but we had 6 players so it didn't truly matter. Jpak and friends then had to play a weighted bo3 vs CLG, lost their first game and CLG wins da tourney??
Nope not anymore. Also I would contest your loss. The hidden rules that suddenly exist now apply to both the championship matches and the third place one. So, with this rule change in mind, you guys technically didn't lose unless you really did forfeit.
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On October 26 2011 13:31 Chrispy wrote:Wowza brb stalking this lady.
Wow, she's super cute Chrispy, get on that
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On October 26 2011 14:48 LoCicero wrote:Wow, she's super cute Chrispy, get on that
a girl from vancouver thats not asian, cause for celebration
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i seriously hope the new dragon champ isn't as broken as DK.
Instawin once DK got lvl 3 ulti. huehue.
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On October 26 2011 15:49 Soloside wrote:
i seriously hope the new dragon champ isn't as broken as DK.
Instawin once DK got lvl 3 ulti. huehue.
Insta-win at level one are you kidding. 3 Second stun.
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EPT
