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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 01 2011 18:30 GMT
#3721
On October 02 2011 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
What's the point of Compensation Mode when Ranked Queues are disabled ~_~

So people don't make rage posts at Riot because they lost a game due to lag. Normal Elo 2serious.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 01 2011 18:40 GMT
#3722
On October 02 2011 02:47 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 02:37 redtooth wrote:
wtf is a compensation mode

Compensation mode means iaoey gets 25 kills on Kassadin and to compensate I freeze for half the game.
20 second freezes are the best, dive 2 towers all day and no clicks required!

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 02:43 clickrush wrote:
On October 02 2011 02:26 Shikyo wrote:
On October 02 2011 01:55 clickrush wrote:
cait is kinda fucked against assassins though.

Yeah she only has a snare, a slow+ blink and the flash and exhaust, how will she manage?


her escape meh against akali because its so short and so are her traps. flash and exhaust is standard on every ad carry. cait is one of the ad carries that has a strong early game but a weak raw dps lategame compared to kog/trist/corki/vayne. kog isnt stellar either against assassins though. Every ad carry who can dish out a shitton of dps in a short period of time is better than cait against assassins considering you get some disables out of your support/tank.

Assassins are ideally bursted down by your casters while your ranged DPS tries to survive. Cait has a great skill set for this with a snare and slow that help lock down the assassin. If even the ranged DPS could 1v1 assassins nobody would play them.


you just explain how the fight should go down but that still makes cait one of the weaker AD carries against assassins compared to those who can dish out alot of damage in a short period of time or have bigger jumps.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 18:51:17
October 01 2011 18:42 GMT
#3723
What's the point of compensation mode if they're just gonna disable ranked?

If my team manages to win our first round of legoleague (highly unlikely) we're playing Navis team ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 01 2011 18:52 GMT
#3724
So much lag in games right now I'm the only of the team who managed to pick a champ before the end of the countdown. Guess I'll skip for now.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 01 2011 18:52 GMT
#3725
On October 02 2011 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
What's the point of Compensation Mode when Ranked Queues are disabled ~_~

They started before compensation mode started?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 01 2011 19:10 GMT
#3726
On October 02 2011 03:17 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 03:13 Iplaythings wrote:
On October 02 2011 03:00 LaNague wrote:
Oh wow, i am away for 1 week and suddenly my poor Akali is the new target of the forum whiners, this makes me so sad.
Is this because of Dominion or because Hotshot played a bunch of games with her on his stream?

She has been the same for the whole time i play LoL.

dominion, she's pretty riddicolous

not like hotshotgg got chars nerfed :D

Its pretty damn crazy that people think she is Op she is only OP if you don't get detection and there are on hit things that give detection.

Only getting detection costs 400 gold. And someone like akali is good at killing high priority targets. Like someone with detection. So she inherently counters the thing that "counters" her.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 19:11:34
October 01 2011 19:10 GMT
#3727
On October 02 2011 03:17 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 03:13 Iplaythings wrote:
On October 02 2011 03:00 LaNague wrote:
Oh wow, i am away for 1 week and suddenly my poor Akali is the new target of the forum whiners, this makes me so sad.
Is this because of Dominion or because Hotshot played a bunch of games with her on his stream?

She has been the same for the whole time i play LoL.

dominion, she's pretty riddicolous

not like hotshotgg got chars nerfed :D

Its pretty damn crazy that people think she is Op she is only OP if you don't get detection and there are on hit things that give detection.

She's had shitty design for ages. The only reason she hasn't had more whining is because so few people play her in SR. She gets FAR too much healing from gunblade, triple ult lunge is full-on retarded, and gaining additional stacks per kill or assist is even more retarded. She's the epitome of hypercarry that can snowball to the point of supermaning an entire team. Riot has the misguided notion that this absurd damage + mobility is somehow necessary for assassins in LoL.

All that said: Talon is 2x worse than Akali. If he doesn't get nerfed soon, I'm going to have to take a trip down to Riot and put my slap-a-bitch gloves on.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 01 2011 19:17 GMT
#3728
On October 02 2011 04:10 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 03:17 Eppa! wrote:
On October 02 2011 03:13 Iplaythings wrote:
On October 02 2011 03:00 LaNague wrote:
Oh wow, i am away for 1 week and suddenly my poor Akali is the new target of the forum whiners, this makes me so sad.
Is this because of Dominion or because Hotshot played a bunch of games with her on his stream?

She has been the same for the whole time i play LoL.

dominion, she's pretty riddicolous

not like hotshotgg got chars nerfed :D

Its pretty damn crazy that people think she is Op she is only OP if you don't get detection and there are on hit things that give detection.

She's had shitty design for ages. The only reason she hasn't had more whining is because so few people play her in SR. She gets FAR too much healing from gunblade, triple ult lunge is full-on retarded, and gaining additional stacks per kill or assist is even more retarded. She's the epitome of hypercarry that can snowball to the point of supermaning an entire team. Riot has the misguided notion that this absurd damage + mobility is somehow necessary for assassins in LoL.

All that said: Talon is 2x worse than Akali. If he doesn't get nerfed soon, I'm going to have to take a trip down to Riot and put my slap-a-bitch gloves on.


so theres a champ that carries hard but is countered by cheap items, coordination and counterpicks. pretty op imo...
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 01 2011 19:19 GMT
#3729
Tell me again what item lets you disengage from Akali 3 times? Or stops talon from 100-0ing a carry in one combo?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 01 2011 19:21 GMT
#3730
IMO revolver needs a nerf more than akali. Its that shit thats broken.

Akali feeds from revolver because it makes her already too good defense (invisibility) better (superduper lifesteal). I think that they need to nerf revolver cost and heal amount and have it only heal against champions, then go back and look at akali.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 01 2011 19:22 GMT
#3731
Revolver is fine, it's gunblade that does too much.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 01 2011 19:23 GMT
#3732
On October 02 2011 04:19 Craton wrote:
Tell me again what item lets you disengage from Akali 3 times? Or stops talon from 100-0ing a carry in one combo?


Not building glass cannon? His ratios are pretty absurd, but if you aren't stacking extra defense when you're dying to assassins you only have yourself to blame. When you're dead you do 0 DPS.

If you have a team that is coordinated enough to cc it's a whole different story of course.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 01 2011 19:23 GMT
#3733
I thought we figured out a long time ago that Spellvamp and Lifesteal are problematic stats.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 19:24:40
October 01 2011 19:24 GMT
#3734
problem is if akali or talon doesnt get at least 1 kill in lane then they are useless POS that make the game 4v5 when teamfights start as they both die instantly as soon as they engage.

so I dont know how much you can really nerf them, more like buff retards.
Brees on in
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 01 2011 19:25 GMT
#3735
On October 02 2011 04:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 04:19 Craton wrote:
Tell me again what item lets you disengage from Akali 3 times? Or stops talon from 100-0ing a carry in one combo?


Not building glass cannon? His ratios are pretty absurd, but if you aren't stacking extra defense when you're dying to assassins you only have yourself to blame. When you're dead you do 0 DPS.

If you have a team that is coordinated enough to cc it's a whole different story of course.


Building defense isn't much of an option for some champions. Plenty of casters serve literally no purpose if they don't pour the vast majority of their gold into offensive items.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
October 01 2011 19:25 GMT
#3736
LOL crying about akali ok. There are certain team comps that shut down akali even if she gets fed. Also people are too lazy to buy vision wards.
GANDHISAUCE
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 01 2011 19:26 GMT
#3737
On October 02 2011 04:19 Craton wrote:
Tell me again what item lets you disengage from Akali 3 times? Or stops talon from 100-0ing a carry in one combo?

Uh, any armor item will stop talon from 1 shotting you.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 19:30:06
October 01 2011 19:28 GMT
#3738
Any assassin can easily pick up kills in the later game without having gotten a kill in lane phase. You can easily get kills forcing dragons, as well. Moreover, a champ like Talon can snowball out of control with just 1-2 early kills.

On October 02 2011 04:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Not building glass cannon?

Yeah man, that rushed null mantle or cloth armor you'll never build into anything will just make all the difference.

Good luck playing a support, as well. That was a nice oracles you had there.
twitch.tv/cratonz
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 01 2011 19:28 GMT
#3739
On October 02 2011 01:55 clickrush wrote:
cait is kinda fucked against assassins though.

Sit on a trap. For double bonus, put another trap a netshot away while you're at tower standoffs or defenses. Talon and Akali go from FEAR-LEVEL 1000 to CANT ESCAPE JOKE MACHINE.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 01 2011 19:31 GMT
#3740
On October 02 2011 04:22 Craton wrote:
Revolver is fine, it's gunblade that does too much.

A revolver is 1200 for infinite sustain on champs that already have a problem with sustain due to their kits- kennen, akali, morde. Its the old locket argument. Is it broken on everyone? No. Is it broken on a few champions? Yes. Does that mean it needs to be fixed? Yarp.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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