EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 171
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
For each new champion, make a champion speculation thread where people can freely make unfounded assumptions about how the new champion. Not that this thread is ever terribly on topic, but these routine derailments every time a new champion is introduced at all always piss me off for some reason, lol. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 30 2011 05:13 Alzadar wrote: When playing as someone like Ryze, should I be using spells to last hit or just try and rely on my auto-attacks? I just played a game mid vs Morgana and she wrecked me hilariously in CS, like not even close. Autoattacks when you can, spells when you have to (e.g. lasthitting a minion under tower that's taken some weird amount of damage). There should be no reason to have to use spells to lasthit for normal situations. If you're missing CS with your autoattacks, you need to practice it more. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 30 2011 05:17 TheYango wrote: Autoattacks when you can, spells when you have to (e.g. lasthitting a minion under tower that's taken some weird amount of damage). There should be no reason to have to use spells to lasthit for normal situations. If you're missing CS with your autoattacks, you need to practice it more. I'd argue that once you get Tear, you might want to throw out a spell now and again to get that sucker powered up. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On September 30 2011 05:13 Alzadar wrote: When playing as someone like Ryze, should I be using spells to last hit or just try and rely on my auto-attacks? I just played a game mid vs Morgana and she wrecked me hilariously in CS, like not even close. Ryze: definitely spells, you usually get tear of goddess and catalyst before anything else, and then have to charge that tear. Other than that... mostly. especially when the enemy is pushing you hard. Most APs have an aoe that will 1-hit caster minions early-ish, very helpful. Morgana is kind of an exception. She can afford to push because of her get-out-of-jail-free black shield preventing many normal ganks. Otherwise your not really supposed to be pushing the waves constantly; conserve mana and lasthit with autoattacks. Dont hesitate to pick up extras with spells if you would miss them otherwise. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 30 2011 05:18 Requizen wrote: Not sure exactly what is "on topic" for a General Chat thread. Shall we talk about Generals? I like Patton. I just hate the speculation about how he's going to be like a tower with the range to go from red to dragon or something. Where the fuck is anyone getting that from, lol? I dunno, I just hate how specific people get with their speculations, especially when they're basically always wrong. On the topic of generals though, I dunno how Tso was as a general, but his chicken has captivated white people for hundreds of years, so that's pretty cool IMO. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On September 30 2011 05:13 Mogwai wrote: Proposal: For each new champion, make a champion speculation thread where people can freely make unfounded assumptions about how the new champion. Not that this thread is ever terribly on topic, but these routine derailments every time a new champion is introduced at all always piss me off for some reason, lol. +1, people always speculate before even knowing any numbers... We don't know if his "huge range when sieged" is going to be +50 range or +500 range, we don't know if his "absurd ap ->armor passive" is going to be OP 50% conversion or crappy 5% conversion >.< Sometimes there's a lot of good and insightful discussions, sometimes there are awesomely funny threads and sometimes people complain about something before even knowing how strong is it going to be. There's not even a room for discussion when topic changes to such theorycrafting, just everyone expressing their feelings based on own assumptions, X pages of boring posts. Thread needs more drama! | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
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Craton
United States17233 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
(I got a quadra kill doing it once  ) | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
On September 30 2011 05:13 Mogwai wrote: Proposal: For each new champion, make a champion speculation thread where people can freely make unfounded assumptions about how the new champion. Not that this thread is ever terribly on topic, but these routine derailments every time a new champion is introduced at all always piss me off for some reason, lol. He's like Kog'Maw and Karthus had a baby. I'd build him Sapphire + 2 pots into Tears into Catalyst into Deathcap, then a Void Staff, Archangel, Archangel. Maybe build Mejai because he's really good at staying alive and killing people from far away, like Karthus. Summoner spells should be Teleport and Flash, I find the tele onto ward and then snipe from the bushes really good, like at bot lane if you just walk into their triangle, you get a huge arc to snipe them with while they attempt to survive the tower dive. Also his AP - Armor ratio is really OP because if you miss he can still tower dive like a boss. Like Cait I think they need to nerf his attack animation and the cast time on his siege shot, it's too easy to skillshot. Also his base movement speed nerfs a slight downtick. He's as fast as Morgana but he's supposed to be a siege tank, that makes no sense. | ||
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chubbly
New Zealand58 Posts
On September 30 2011 06:27 Southlight wrote: He's like Kog'Maw and Karthus had a baby. I'd build him Sapphire + 2 pots into Tears into Catalyst into Deathcap, then a Void Staff, Archangel, Archangel. Maybe build Mejai because he's really good at staying alive and killing people from far away, like Karthus. Summoner spells should be Teleport and Flash, I find the tele onto ward and then snipe from the bushes really good, like at bot lane if you just walk into their triangle, you get a huge arc to snipe them with while they attempt to survive the tower dive. Also his AP - Armor ratio is really OP because if you miss he can still tower dive like a boss. Like Cait I think they need to nerf his attack animation and the cast time on his siege shot, it's too easy to skillshot. Also his base movement speed nerfs a slight downtick. He's as fast as Morgana but he's supposed to be a siege tank, that makes no sense. Mind giving me the mastery/rune break down? I'm finding the standard setup to be lackluster, especially with his casting animations. Maybe something unconventional like a 9/9/12 would suit him best? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On September 30 2011 06:38 Mogwai wrote: I hate everyone *dies* Stop being like Phrost. | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
On September 30 2011 06:38 Mogwai wrote: I hate everyone *dies* Victoleeeeeeeeee. | ||
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