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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 29 2011 19:04 GMT
#3381
even Cait's Q is 1 sec cast from click to leaving the gun, .75 seconds is pretty quick for a "siege mode"

Riot does like spammy abilities though
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
September 29 2011 19:07 GMT
#3382
Ascended Form (Passive): Xerath feeds on arcane power, making him increasingly resilient to physical harm. He converts a percentage of his Ability Power into Armor.

Riot sure likes going full retard.

They've been whining for ages about how many problems double-dip passives cause, so they make another champ with one. Ok.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 29 2011 19:07 GMT
#3383
The way it reads it only goes 1 way, Kinda like Rammus's Armor > AD
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 29 2011 19:17 GMT
#3384
On September 30 2011 04:07 Cixah wrote:
The way it reads it only goes 1 way, Kinda like Rammus's Armor > AD

They said they don't like Jax passive and that one only goes one way too
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 29 2011 19:17 GMT
#3385
On September 30 2011 03:16 r.Evo wrote:
So much destroys the "current AD/support bot lane"

Pick Brand Taric. Annie Brand. Profit.

I do nothing else whenever someone picks Kassa and just send the AD mid. Have yet to lose that lane to anyone but people flaming you for it. =P


dont think brand/taric can beat cait/support
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 29 2011 19:18 GMT
#3386
On September 30 2011 04:00 cascades wrote:
Unichan is back <3.

How does talon vs riven matchup go? I got my butt handed to me twice in two games, but both times she critted me so.

Depends on who's playing what style. It's really whoever decides to be the aggressor will generally win. Both have pretty strong abilities and can drop the other pretty quickly, but I have to give the edge to Talon.

Because of his Rake, he can mostly sit back and use it to push lanes and poke at Riven. He also has a silence, and Riven without her abilities isn't that strong. So you poke with Rake to get her low, teleport on her, silence to remove the risk of stun/knockback/escape, and then just hit her. If Riven plays aggressively, she can do damage, but the smart Talon player will just silence and run or use it to hop to a minion further away.
It's your boy Guzma!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 29 2011 19:19 GMT
#3387
On September 30 2011 04:17 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 03:16 r.Evo wrote:
So much destroys the "current AD/support bot lane"

Pick Brand Taric. Annie Brand. Profit.

I do nothing else whenever someone picks Kassa and just send the AD mid. Have yet to lose that lane to anyone but people flaming you for it. =P


dont think brand/taric can beat cait/support


Any non-cait lane is no trouble at all. If it's vs Cait she has to play considerably worse than the bursty duo, however, Cait imo has to always play worse than the other party to actually lose the lane.

Pick Cait early, send Cait mid, profit.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 19:20:14
September 29 2011 19:19 GMT
#3388
On September 30 2011 04:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 04:07 Cixah wrote:
The way it reads it only goes 1 way, Kinda like Rammus's Armor > AD

They said they don't like Jax passive and that one only goes one way too

That meant that he got Health from 2 sources, and it semi-stacked with Atma's impaler. There is no Atma's equivalent for AP.
It's your boy Guzma!
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 19:19:52
September 29 2011 19:19 GMT
#3389
double dip means getting 2 stats for the price of 1 so yes Ascended Form is double dipping

what you're thinking of is a geometric progression of stat X/Y when X and Y depend on one another (kayle's old passive, vladimir's passive, jax when he has atma's)
cool beans
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 29 2011 19:21 GMT
#3390
On September 30 2011 04:19 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 04:17 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On September 30 2011 03:16 r.Evo wrote:
So much destroys the "current AD/support bot lane"

Pick Brand Taric. Annie Brand. Profit.

I do nothing else whenever someone picks Kassa and just send the AD mid. Have yet to lose that lane to anyone but people flaming you for it. =P


dont think brand/taric can beat cait/support


Any non-cait lane is no trouble at all. If it's vs Cait she has to play considerably worse than the bursty duo, however, Cait imo has to always play worse than the other party to actually lose the lane.

Pick Cait early, send Cait mid, profit.


Urgot is tough too, kog maybe.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 29 2011 19:24 GMT
#3391
On September 30 2011 04:19 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
double dip means getting 2 stats for the price of 1 so yes Ascended Form is double dipping

what you're thinking of is a geometric progression of stat X/Y when X and Y depend on one another (kayle's old passive, vladimir's passive, jax when he has atma's)


vlad doesnt' have a geometric progression
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 29 2011 19:26 GMT
#3392
Xeraths passive feels real dumb. Why would u want bonus armor when you're probably goon to be sitting way far back in teamfights not getting hit anyways?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 29 2011 19:27 GMT
#3393
On September 30 2011 04:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
Xeraths passive feels real dumb. Why would u want bonus armor when you're probably goon to be sitting way far back in teamfights not getting hit anyways?

Because it hard for mobile AD-based anticarries to kill you without you having to spend any gold itemizing against them.

In short, because it makes him more powerful for no real reason and without creating any interesting gameplay.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 29 2011 19:30 GMT
#3394
On September 30 2011 04:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 04:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
Xeraths passive feels real dumb. Why would u want bonus armor when you're probably goon to be sitting way far back in teamfights not getting hit anyways?

Because it hard for mobile AD-based anticarries to kill you without you having to spend any gold itemizing against them.

In short, because it makes him more powerful for no real reason and without creating any interesting gameplay.

Yea that too. Most divers are AD and this makes it so you're tankyish too? Real dumb.

Either that or the numbers are low and the passive is negligible...
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 29 2011 19:32 GMT
#3395
I assume it went like this:
"I have no idea what passive to give this guy"
"hmm which type of stat -> other stat passive are we missing?"
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 29 2011 19:32 GMT
#3396
I just don't like that his gimmick is that he's a super long range poker. Pretty sure we already have heimer and we hate him.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 29 2011 19:36 GMT
#3397
On September 30 2011 04:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
I just don't like that his gimmick is that he's a super long range poker. Pretty sure we already have heimer and we hate him.

No man, he's different. Instead of making turrets, you become turrets. Get it? It's waaaaay different.




/s
It's your boy Guzma!
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
September 29 2011 19:39 GMT
#3398
Guys guys guys, I'm going to use siege mode use me like a turret while you get dragon.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 29 2011 19:44 GMT
#3399
Would have been more interesting if his passive was like Tristana's, only for his spells. I suppose people would call that unoriginal, but I think it would have promoted some interesting dynamics over the course of the game.

Then you could just add the armor thing to his self-root.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 29 2011 20:10 GMT
#3400
On September 30 2011 04:39 Sabin010 wrote:
Guys guys guys, I'm going to use siege mode use me like a turret while you get dragon.


Ward baron, siege up near red, force other team back.
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