• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:57
CEST 12:57
KST 19:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon84Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?174Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
[D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7425 users

[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 169

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 167 168 169 170 171 218 Next
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 17:53:48
September 29 2011 17:53 GMT
#3361
On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote:
does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal.


One hero on his own can't destroy the metagame, he would just get banned by everyone if he's OP.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 29 2011 17:55 GMT
#3362
On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote:
does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal.


I see a problem with the speed boost he gets from unsieging. It removes the risk portion from risk/reward play. If he's sieged up, he should be more vulnerable to ganks, not less.
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
September 29 2011 18:01 GMT
#3363
So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft?
Happiest man on earth
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
September 29 2011 18:01 GMT
#3364
On September 30 2011 00:45 daemir wrote:
Humm this was like only vod I found from Nyphs channel with a few lazy searches

http://www.own3d.tv/video/178436/2011-07-27_191827975


thanks!
cool beans
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 18:02:43
September 29 2011 18:02 GMT
#3365
So I get on a premade, my connection decides to fuck up, then I try 6 times in a row to reconnect to the game, so now I've been waiting since 5 min to connect to chat service to tell them it's over.

Anyway I'm raelly wondering how this siege ability is gonna affect the gameplay, either on poking or defending. Depends on the cooldowns for poking.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 29 2011 18:03 GMT
#3366
On September 30 2011 02:55 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote:
does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal.


I see a problem with the speed boost he gets from unsieging. It removes the risk portion from risk/reward play. If he's sieged up, he should be more vulnerable to ganks, not less.


Depends on if there's a siege-up time like there is in Starcraft. If he can just flip back and forth instantly, it'll be dumb, but if there's a ~2 second "cast time" on it, it leaves him VERY vulnerable, which is good.

It also depends on the actual range. If it's like, if you're in the river you can hit both top and bot lanes, that's absurd. Tower-to-tower in lane would also be crazy. But if it's more like mid-lane or so to tower, that's not bad.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cavaman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada12 Posts
September 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#3367
I'm guessing at or a bit higher range than twitch's ult shots. I think game play wise it won't be larger than that so you can still have somewhat of a view around your character while engaging.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#3368
So much destroys the "current AD/support bot lane"

Pick Brand Taric. Annie Brand. Profit.

I do nothing else whenever someone picks Kassa and just send the AD mid. Have yet to lose that lane to anyone but people flaming you for it. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 18:43:06
September 29 2011 18:40 GMT
#3369
On September 30 2011 01:36 JackDino wrote:
Wiki page is probably outdated then since it says anivia's E double dmg only works with her own slows.
Just tried it in a custom game, anivia E doesn't do double damage with ashe snare atleast.
Twin fang also works with twitch poison, you are all so wrong.

It's the other way round--everyone else's information is out of date. All of those USED to be the case, but it got patched out.

On September 30 2011 02:40 StuffedTurkey wrote:
I am so confused by this conversation..either there are a lot of trolls or I am losing my mind
I don't remember any patch changing how Anivia interacted with other slows and I tried that combo with Ashe the first time i blade Anivia 2 years ago

It was ninja-patched out at some point. Don't remember exactly when, but I remember it getting briefly discussed--it's just no one gives a damn cuz of how few people play Anivia on a regular basis.
Moderator
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 29 2011 18:44 GMT
#3370
On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote:
So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft?


.75 delay on sieging confirmed by red.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 29 2011 18:48 GMT
#3371
On September 30 2011 03:44 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote:
So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft?


.75 delay on sieging confirmed by red.

Only ? O_o
Gonna be great to escape ganks : Get into a bush, siege, unsiege, get mvsp buff, run away.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 29 2011 18:52 GMT
#3372
0.75 second is a lot...
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 29 2011 18:52 GMT
#3373
Double would presumably take 1.5 seconds. Not sure stunning yourself for 1.5 seconds for a speed boost would be a fantastic idea.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 29 2011 18:52 GMT
#3374
Wut
[image loading]
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 29 2011 18:52 GMT
#3375
On September 30 2011 03:48 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 03:44 GranDim wrote:
On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote:
So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft?


.75 delay on sieging confirmed by red.

Only ? O_o
Gonna be great to escape ganks : Get into a bush, siege, unsiege, get mvsp buff, run away.

that'd have to be a hell of a movespeed buff to make up for stunning yourself for 0.75 seconds.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#3376
On September 30 2011 03:48 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 03:44 GranDim wrote:
On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote:
So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft?


.75 delay on sieging confirmed by red.

Only ? O_o
Gonna be great to escape ganks : Get into a bush, siege, unsiege, get mvsp buff, run away.

Eh, it'll still be noticable. The game goes so fast that you don't think .75 seconds will be a long time, but that's enough time for Irelia/Akali/Amumu/whoever to get in range and charge. Especially since it's 1.5 seconds for in->out, and there might be a short delay before you can activate it again to unsiege.

It'll help in some cases, but I wouldn't go out of my way to try and siege/unsiege for a short sprint.
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 29 2011 18:57 GMT
#3377
On September 30 2011 03:52 HazMat wrote:
Wut
[image loading]


chillfish es bestfish

fish eat cat
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 29 2011 18:59 GMT
#3378
On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote:
does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal.


Don't dream, everyone's gonna play him mid cuz that's where AP are mean to be played.
:/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
September 29 2011 18:59 GMT
#3379
seiged up in the bot lane... spot ww on a ward... unsiege and gtfo.... never get ganked... there is no excuse for being ganked... unless you get ashe arrowed...
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
September 29 2011 19:00 GMT
#3380
Unichan is back <3.

How does talon vs riven matchup go? I got my butt handed to me twice in two games, but both times she critted me so.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Prev 1 167 168 169 170 171 218 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16, Group C
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
Afreeca ASL 14136
StarCastTV_EN338
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 52
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48988
Calm 11888
Bisu 4745
Jaedong 3170
Shuttle 1488
Leta 652
BeSt 568
Horang2 512
Pusan 434
Rush 385
[ Show more ]
Soma 263
Larva 238
Hyun 221
ZerO 214
Stork 160
Noble 97
Dewaltoss 76
ToSsGirL 70
Sharp 59
Killer 55
Barracks 43
Sexy 35
Aegong 34
sSak 28
Sacsri 27
Terrorterran 26
sorry 26
HiyA 25
Bale 23
soO 18
JulyZerg 13
zelot 12
SilentControl 11
Hm[arnc] 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1710
shoxiejesuss853
zeus393
byalli165
Other Games
Grubby7327
singsing1226
Pyrionflax264
Lowko249
Mew2King24
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick950
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 288
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 61
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt808
Other Games
• WagamamaTV246
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
3m
WardiTV76
Rex52
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 3m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 3m
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d
PiGosaur Cup
1d 13h
The PondCast
1d 23h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.