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On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote: does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal.
One hero on his own can't destroy the metagame, he would just get banned by everyone if he's OP.
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On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote: does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal.
I see a problem with the speed boost he gets from unsieging. It removes the risk portion from risk/reward play. If he's sieged up, he should be more vulnerable to ganks, not less.
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So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft?
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So I get on a premade, my connection decides to fuck up, then I try 6 times in a row to reconnect to the game, so now I've been waiting since 5 min to connect to chat service to tell them it's over.
Anyway I'm raelly wondering how this siege ability is gonna affect the gameplay, either on poking or defending. Depends on the cooldowns for poking.
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On September 30 2011 02:55 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote: does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal. I see a problem with the speed boost he gets from unsieging. It removes the risk portion from risk/reward play. If he's sieged up, he should be more vulnerable to ganks, not less.
Depends on if there's a siege-up time like there is in Starcraft. If he can just flip back and forth instantly, it'll be dumb, but if there's a ~2 second "cast time" on it, it leaves him VERY vulnerable, which is good.
It also depends on the actual range. If it's like, if you're in the river you can hit both top and bot lanes, that's absurd. Tower-to-tower in lane would also be crazy. But if it's more like mid-lane or so to tower, that's not bad.
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I'm guessing at or a bit higher range than twitch's ult shots. I think game play wise it won't be larger than that so you can still have somewhat of a view around your character while engaging.
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So much destroys the "current AD/support bot lane"
Pick Brand Taric. Annie Brand. Profit.
I do nothing else whenever someone picks Kassa and just send the AD mid. Have yet to lose that lane to anyone but people flaming you for it. =P
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On September 30 2011 01:36 JackDino wrote: Wiki page is probably outdated then since it says anivia's E double dmg only works with her own slows. Just tried it in a custom game, anivia E doesn't do double damage with ashe snare atleast. Twin fang also works with twitch poison, you are all so wrong. It's the other way round--everyone else's information is out of date. All of those USED to be the case, but it got patched out.
On September 30 2011 02:40 StuffedTurkey wrote: I am so confused by this conversation..either there are a lot of trolls or I am losing my mind I don't remember any patch changing how Anivia interacted with other slows and I tried that combo with Ashe the first time i blade Anivia 2 years ago It was ninja-patched out at some point. Don't remember exactly when, but I remember it getting briefly discussed--it's just no one gives a damn cuz of how few people play Anivia on a regular basis.
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On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote: So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft?
.75 delay on sieging confirmed by red.
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On September 30 2011 03:44 GranDim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote: So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft? .75 delay on sieging confirmed by red. Only ? O_o Gonna be great to escape ganks : Get into a bush, siege, unsiege, get mvsp buff, run away.
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Double would presumably take 1.5 seconds. Not sure stunning yourself for 1.5 seconds for a speed boost would be a fantastic idea.
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Wut
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On September 30 2011 03:48 -Zoda- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 03:44 GranDim wrote:On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote: So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft? .75 delay on sieging confirmed by red. Only ? O_o Gonna be great to escape ganks : Get into a bush, siege, unsiege, get mvsp buff, run away. that'd have to be a hell of a movespeed buff to make up for stunning yourself for 0.75 seconds.
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On September 30 2011 03:48 -Zoda- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 03:44 GranDim wrote:On September 30 2011 03:01 oob wrote: So is his siege/unsiege insta, or is there a small delay kinda like the Siege Tanks on Starcraft? .75 delay on sieging confirmed by red. Only ? O_o Gonna be great to escape ganks : Get into a bush, siege, unsiege, get mvsp buff, run away. Eh, it'll still be noticable. The game goes so fast that you don't think .75 seconds will be a long time, but that's enough time for Irelia/Akali/Amumu/whoever to get in range and charge. Especially since it's 1.5 seconds for in->out, and there might be a short delay before you can activate it again to unsiege.
It'll help in some cases, but I wouldn't go out of my way to try and siege/unsiege for a short sprint.
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On September 30 2011 03:52 HazMat wrote:Wut ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dRafE.png)
chillfish es bestfish
fish eat cat
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On September 30 2011 02:49 Sabin010 wrote: does anybody see this new champion destroying current metagame of ad carry and support bot lane? That passive/seige mode look like they'd be good at shuttting down ad carries in a duo lane. Throw a soraka baby sitter with him and you get starcall for more mr lowering fun, infinity manas, and some more armour from heal.
Don't dream, everyone's gonna play him mid cuz that's where AP are mean to be played. :/
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seiged up in the bot lane... spot ww on a ward... unsiege and gtfo.... never get ganked... there is no excuse for being ganked... unless you get ashe arrowed...
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Unichan is back <3.
How does talon vs riven matchup go? I got my butt handed to me twice in two games, but both times she critted me so.
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