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[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 135
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On September 27 2011 00:30 Southlight wrote: hahahaha i would so buy that if it were cheaper.There is a special shirt for you, redtooth http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=SHEL-MANATEE-SHIRT&Category_Code=SHEL in this case its more like MIND OF A KAT PLAYER, BODY OF A SUPPORT PLAYER | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
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Xirt
Scotland52 Posts
On September 27 2011 00:41 Southlight wrote: <- mind of a support player, body of an AP player according to Neo, but I don't think AP players get pissed off and 1v5 for 2 seconds because no one else is initiating. So I dunno. The forever mystery, what the fuck does Uta play. Depends on the champions but I have definately got annoyed with nobody initating and done it myself on Annie and Malz before. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 27 2011 00:45 redtooth wrote: the difference between us is that i am absolutely terrible at this game in all aspects other than kat. if i can't get mid i feel so useless. i don't understand how a person can be so bad at jungle/support. just gotta suck it up and spam games. I used to be a Pantheon 1-trick pony, but I like to think I've expanded to be pretty alright at at least 1 niche-character in each role on top of being a pretty versatile bruiser/jungler. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On September 27 2011 00:34 Mogwai wrote: Personally, I agree with both sides. Two Down is right that laning actually isn't that hard, but everyone else is right that everyone still seems to suck at it. I find that people suck at laning phase when they put too much emphasize on kills. They get over-aggressive and then when they get ganked, they feel that they are behind and play even more risky. This causes that lane to be lost. Also a lot of people don't know when they should be playing aggressively in lane. I see all the time people trying to kill the other champion while there's a large creep wave pushing. Even if you get the kill, if you have to back, you aren't as ahead as you would think. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On September 27 2011 00:48 Mogwai wrote: i don't have time =/just gotta suck it up and spam games. I used to be a Pantheon 1-trick pony, but I like to think I've expanded to be pretty alright at at least 1 niche-character in each role on top of being a pretty versatile bruiser/jungler. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Setup- 4 top 1 bot: Why- you win by keeping control of more nodes than the other team for a longer period of time. Duh. The question is which nodes. Simple- the ones on your side and top. The question is WHY. Enemy bot is to close to the enemy spawn, so any time you try to cap and hold it you put yourself at a reinforcement disadvantage. So you dont want to focus on enemy bot. Enemy top is even worse simply because the instant you lose control of that point, you lose control of the entirety of top and you will get reverse double capped. In addition, it is very easy to hold a point 1v2, and some champs can hold off 1v3 or more. This affords you the ability to keep control of top, while at the same time maintaining your bot in order to keep the 3-2 cap lead. Kewl, but what champs to play? You have 2 options for bot. First is to sit someone down there to farm and just keep your bot capped, and later use them to shift top in order to shut down any enemy caping efforts. Someone like kog, ashe, ect- ideally you want them to be able to completely shut down farmed tanky dps. The downside of this choice is that you cannot actually cap THEIR bot using this strategy. Any immobile champ is at huge risk of being caught and killed while overextended, thus resulting in enemy being able to cap your bot and you being forced to weaken top control in order to re cap it, which allows the enemy to take top control and then hold that point 3-2 and win. Which is bad. The other option you have is to run someone more mobile, shaco, kass, lee sin. Someone who can actually cap on a kill because they have the ability to escape should the enemy shift focus. As for top, IMO you want a few things- generally 2 tanky dps, some kind of tank killer, and some kind of scout. Ideally, there would be a champ who could take multiple roles in order to free up a spot for an extra tank or a sustain champ. The reasoning is fairly simple. The tanky dps are there to kill shit and maintain top control. Ideally these guys are unkillable and can dish out a shit ton of damage. The tank killer on your team is there to take out enemy tanky dps. Kog works for this, viegar stuns would be useful, ect. The scout has a special role. If everything goes according to plan (and it should cuz I came up with it after all) you should have 3-2 cap advantage and no discernible way of giving up top control. This is especially true if your bot lane is either a) farmed and shifted top in order to kill shit, or b) constantly exerting pressure on bot so they are forced to bring someone down to help. Either way, you should have top controlled. This leaves the enemy in a bit of a pickle- they need to shift focus elsewhere. This is where the scout comes in. It is their job to figure out when the enemy team starts to shift control to other areas so that your team can properly shift in order to defend. Since there are no wards on the map, Teemo is the best at this. In fact, I'm 99% sure that teemo is going to be must ban/pick because of this. Either way, thats how you play dominion. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Then again she does everything well. | ||
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Xirt
Scotland52 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Irelia is just OP in Dom ;P Malz would be good, but supressing under a tower is a good way to get yourself eaten by anyone coming to help. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
Ace enemy team. Take all five nodes. Use Trundle and Anivia's terrain to keep the enemy from leaving their pad. | ||
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Ruken
United States858 Posts
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