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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1185192
Straight from the LoL board leaders, I've got some bad news for anyone here playing this game through the Mac client:
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Over the past 13 months we have been working with another company on a Mac version of LoL. We have been silent because both companies have been exploring every possible avenue to ensure the Mac version is up to Riot standards. So far we have been unable to ensure a consistent quality bar across platforms. At the heart of the issue is our rapid update cycle, where we make regular balance changes and content updates. We currently develop on the PC, but since the plan was for the Mac to share servers, we believed that a Mac version that was frequently unavailable was not up to Riot standards. For that reason we have severely limited the number of participants in Mac testing.
We are regretfully going to shut down the Mac Beta client indefinitely starting 12:00 AM PT on September 6, 2011. We realize our current approach regarding the Mac platform won't guarantee the quality and frequent updates we deliver today on the PC and are expected by our player community. We will continue to investigate the opportunity to provide player access on the Mac Platform in the future that aligns with our service and content update standards. We are committed to building a solution that will work on the Mac in the long run, but it will take some time. Additionally, testers that have utilized the League of Legends store during the Beta can either continue playing the PC version of the game, or receive a full refund on RP purchases made (which would close out the account). Details of the refund program will be communicated to these players via email. As a result of this situation, Riot would like to give all active participants in the Mac beta a code that unlocks the Champions Pack, as a token of appreciation for the time they have dedicated to helping us evaluate the Mac client and our sincere apology for not being able to have the testing work out as originally planned. To qualify for the reward, you must have a majority of your logins come from the Mac client, and you must login to the Mac client and click on the Store button between Friday, September 2 and Tuesday, September 6. Rewards will be added to the accounts of verified testers by the end of September.
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I'm glad to see that they're giving the option for a full refund on any RP spent, that's responsible of them. So while I posted this more to make sure everyone was aware who might be affected, what do you think? Will it affect your playing of LoL?
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Wow, fuck this. I just have a MacBook to play on, now I cannot play LoL anymore without getting Parallels or Bootcamp.
Trash.
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Can't ppl just use bootcamp instead?
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all active participants in the Mac beta a code that unlocks the Champions Pack
I wished I bothered to play on Mac client. That is all.
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On September 04 2011 01:18 Abenson wrote:
Can't ppl just use bootcamp instead?
Probably, now I have to get my hands on a Windows-CD in order to install it, though. Fcked up stuff.
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I don't understand, the client was perfectly playable. Can't they just restrict access to Dominion, which I assume is what broke it?
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On September 04 2011 01:18 Abenson wrote:
Can't ppl just use bootcamp instead?
you can technically, but A) you're supposed to own windows to bootcamp it, and B) restarting ur mac JUST to play some LoL is annoying to say the least. If LoL was mac only and you were forced to restart your windows machine every time you wanted to play, you either wouldnt do it or would hate it amirite? same idea but turn it backwards
As far as the loss of the mac client itself, i cant say i'm terribly suprised, they way they run it (using a cider wrapper) makes it prone to quite a few unique bugs, and very poor performance even on fairly high end mac machines. (note the following is based on a somewhat limited understanding, but i think parts of it are def true) If they really wanted to make a mac client work too, they'd have to rebuild the entire architecture on something unix based, which is a huge task and something i'm 99% certain they are not interested in doing even within the next few years. My guess is that if they DO end up doing mac support, it will be in LoL 2.
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Hi guys. I understand that for many of you who use a Mac to play LoL this is a major issue you for all. I'm a little busy right now, but I will make a post in our Teach Support Thread will as much detail as I can on this issue. I'll also put in some help on how to get the Windows LoL Client working on your Mac.
The Tech Support Thread is here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243201
Most likely it will be a new post at the end of the thread rather than something on the first few posts since I'm a little pressed for time.
Thanks for your understanding, and I'm really sorry that the Mac Client is being terminated. 
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i mean you didn't buy your mac to play games on right
other games have mac support but it's not a piece of cake to keep the client up.. the majority of players are windows users and if they have to take it down for a while, then so be it
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I wasn't in the actual beta, I downloaded the client through some other site and it worked fine, no bugs at all and the updates worked well. Does this mean that I won't be able to play, even though i wasn't in the actual beta?
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Its pretty good for me since they are giving out a champions pack to all mac users and im getting a new comp soon anyway so i will still be able to play with more free champions =D
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i don't understand how a company with that large of a player base still doesn't have official mac support yet. i understand that the majority of gamers are PC users, but almost all the big games out there have OSX support... riot just not really on top of things, imo.
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On September 05 2011 01:05 calvincible wrote:
i don't understand how a company with that large of a player base still doesn't have official mac support yet. i understand that the majority of gamers are PC users, but almost all the big games out there have OSX support... riot just not really on top of things, imo.
They can't code it for mac support because of the way the game is built i believe. It is simply to hard.
Riot is behind things yes, but support for mac is not big for pretty much all big name developers, and i know that blizzard is the exception.
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On September 04 2011 23:46 unichan wrote:
i mean you didn't buy your mac to play games on right
other games have mac support but it's not a piece of cake to keep the client up.. the majority of players are windows users and if they have to take it down for a while, then so be it
That's just ignorant.
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I'm both sad and annoyed.
Sad because of this I'm no longer able to play a game I love with my buddies and annoyed because a lot of the mac community doesn't even use the official riot client (which Riot hasn't supported in 6ish months) anymore as a group of super guys made their own after they got tired of dealing with the bad riot one and instead of just continuing their apathy towards our community instead they are actually just refusing us access to their log-in server if you're on a mac.
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On September 05 2011 01:48 TheButtonmen wrote:I'm both sad and annoyed. Sad because of this I'm no longer able to play a game I love with my buddies and annoyed because a lot of the mac community doesn't even use the official riot client (which Riot hasn't supported in 6ish months) anymore as a group of super guys made their own after they got tired of dealing with the bad riot one and instead of just continuing their apathy towards our community instead they are actually just refusing us access to their log-in server if you're on a mac.
There are possible solutions being explored. If I get any further information, I will update the stickied Tech Thread.
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On September 05 2011 01:50 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 01:48 TheButtonmen wrote:I'm both sad and annoyed. Sad because of this I'm no longer able to play a game I love with my buddies and annoyed because a lot of the mac community doesn't even use the official riot client (which Riot hasn't supported in 6ish months) anymore as a group of super guys made their own after they got tired of dealing with the bad riot one and instead of just continuing their apathy towards our community instead they are actually just refusing us access to their log-in server if you're on a mac. There are possible solutions being explored. If I get any further information, I will update the stickied Tech Thread.
Short of Boom pulling a last second miracle with a wineskin or the client team (Edwir, YSfighter,Riddick, syitch and so on) managing to juryrig yet another client that gets around the new roadblocks riots putting in there isn't any solutions.
For various business related reasons I can't have pirated stuff on my laptop and I can't afford to pay for a legit copy of Windows 7 or Parallels/VMFusion.
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Honestly you didn't expect this? The mac client was taking forever, and this happens all the time for mac users. In the end its not Riot's fault that mac is so difficult to deal with, it's your fault for buying an inferior OS. Sorry, you can say all you want about how macs are just as good as windows etc. accessibility, music, w/e, but in the end this happens all the time to my buddies who use mac.
If you want to play video games and not just be a casual computer user, make the switch to a more gaming-friendly operating system. Those roadblocks are not present on other OS, so either run bootcamp or stop the Riot bashing just because you run an alternative operating system.
edit - my post sounds very anti-mac, I'm sorry. What I really mean is that if you knew you wanted to play LoL, and you knew that you could choose between a mac and a PC, the end blame ends up falling on you, not Riot. They don't owe you anything, and they even said that they would refund/give out codes for those of you affected.
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On September 05 2011 05:52 Surrealz wrote:
Honestly you didn't expect this? The mac client was taking forever, and this happens all the time for mac users. In the end its not Riot's fault that mac is so difficult to deal with, it's your fault for buying an inferior OS. Sorry, you can say all you want about how macs are just as good as windows etc. accessibility, music, w/e, but in the end this happens all the time to my buddies who use mac.
If you want to play video games and not just be a casual computer user, make the switch to a more gaming-friendly operating system. Those roadblocks are not present on other OS, so either run bootcamp or stop the Riot bashing just because you run an alternative operating system.
A) You're a dick.
B) There is a working mac client, Riot is still locking it out.
C) I'm not a "casual computer user", I can't switch to another OS just for gaming.
D) What other OS's isn't Riot shitting on? They are now Windows only and Windows is an inferior choice for some of the stuff I need to do with my computer.
E) You want to pay the $160 for me to get a copy of Windows 7 to book camp?
F) You're still a dick, thanks for coming to this thread just to take a shit on all the people on TL who use macs.
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On September 05 2011 06:11 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 05:52 Surrealz wrote:
Honestly you didn't expect this? The mac client was taking forever, and this happens all the time for mac users. In the end its not Riot's fault that mac is so difficult to deal with, it's your fault for buying an inferior OS. Sorry, you can say all you want about how macs are just as good as windows etc. accessibility, music, w/e, but in the end this happens all the time to my buddies who use mac.
If you want to play video games and not just be a casual computer user, make the switch to a more gaming-friendly operating system. Those roadblocks are not present on other OS, so either run bootcamp or stop the Riot bashing just because you run an alternative operating system.
A) You're a dick. B) There is a working mac client, Riot is still locking it out. C) I'm not a "casual computer user", I can't switch to another OS just for gaming. D) What other OS's isn't Riot shitting on? They are now Windows only and Windows is an inferior choice for some of the stuff I need to do with my computer. E) You want to pay the $160 for me to get a copy of Windows 7 to book camp? F) You're still a dick, thanks for coming to this thread just to take a shit on all the people on TL who use macs.
I believe Dominion some how or another broke the Mac client and Riot doesn't want to commit the money right now to getting the Mac client working. If you're in college you can get a copy of Windows 7 really cheap. I dunno about in Canada though, but my university offers it for like $30. There are also less than legal ways to obtain a copy of Windows...
To be fair to Riot, a lot of devs make their games for PC only. It makes sense as that's where the majority of their customers are. I think it's as much Apple's responsibility as it is the devs.
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Pc > Mac in game matters
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 05 2011 07:02 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 06:11 TheButtonmen wrote:On September 05 2011 05:52 Surrealz wrote:
Honestly you didn't expect this? The mac client was taking forever, and this happens all the time for mac users. In the end its not Riot's fault that mac is so difficult to deal with, it's your fault for buying an inferior OS. Sorry, you can say all you want about how macs are just as good as windows etc. accessibility, music, w/e, but in the end this happens all the time to my buddies who use mac.
If you want to play video games and not just be a casual computer user, make the switch to a more gaming-friendly operating system. Those roadblocks are not present on other OS, so either run bootcamp or stop the Riot bashing just because you run an alternative operating system.
A) You're a dick. B) There is a working mac client, Riot is still locking it out. C) I'm not a "casual computer user", I can't switch to another OS just for gaming. D) What other OS's isn't Riot shitting on? They are now Windows only and Windows is an inferior choice for some of the stuff I need to do with my computer. E) You want to pay the $160 for me to get a copy of Windows 7 to book camp? F) You're still a dick, thanks for coming to this thread just to take a shit on all the people on TL who use macs. I believe Dominion some how or another broke the Mac client and Riot doesn't want to commit the money right now to getting the Mac client working. If you're in college you can get a copy of Windows 7 really cheap. I dunno about in Canada though, but my university offers it for like $30. There are also less than legal ways to obtain a copy of Windows... To be fair to Riot, a lot of devs make their games for PC only. It makes sense as that's where the majority of their customers are. I think it's as much Apple's responsibility as it is the devs.
Riot could have simply continued to ignore the mac community and let them continue to support their own custom client rather then actively working against it. I don't expect Riot to sink resources into us, I expect Riot to not spend resources working against us.
Also I can't use the less then legal methods as my computer is being used for business at the moment and I need to keep it legit. Also does your university seriously offer it for $30, lol now I'm curious what the deal is and if you can hook me up. 
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On September 05 2011 07:07 champignones wrote:
Pc > Mac in game matters
Thanks for the insightful comment.
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On September 05 2011 07:14 TheButtonmen wrote:Thanks for the insightful comment.
you are welcome sir
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On September 05 2011 07:07 champignones wrote:
Pc > Mac in game matters
Why even come in this thread?
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On September 05 2011 05:52 Surrealz wrote:
Honestly you didn't expect this? The mac client was taking forever, and this happens all the time for mac users. In the end its not Riot's fault that mac is so difficult to deal with, it's your fault for buying an inferior OS. Sorry, you can say all you want about how macs are just as good as windows etc. accessibility, music, w/e, but in the end this happens all the time to my buddies who use mac.
If you want to play video games and not just be a casual computer user, make the switch to a more gaming-friendly operating system. Those roadblocks are not present on other OS, so either run bootcamp or stop the Riot bashing just because you run an alternative operating system.
edit - my post sounds very anti-mac, I'm sorry. What I really mean is that if you knew you wanted to play LoL, and you knew that you could choose between a mac and a PC, the end blame ends up falling on you, not Riot. They don't owe you anything, and they even said that they would refund/give out codes for those of you affected.
i don't understand why everyone needs to jump on the mac-hating wagon, and even more so, i don't understand the reasoning behind this "it's your fault for picking an inferior OS" argument. you're right that if you want to buy a computer strictly for gaming, then a PC is your best bet. but there are tons of users out there who use their computers for other stuff, like work and school, where macs outshine PCs. does that mean these people are at fault, that they're not supposed to be able to play? absolutely not.
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is their loss, dota 2 will be available for mac, and blizzard dota too, so they lost a lot of players.
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I'm currently working in a game company, and we just started this year to release games on MAC.
The problem with MAC is that you have to devote a lot of resources to make it work, especially at the beginning when all your guys have to learn xcode, etc and then you risk the chance of not getting your money back as the MAC game market is really low.
Also Apple releases Lion OS and fucks up all your graphics without any explanation 1 month before the deadline.
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I hate you so much right now, Riot.
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so... mac client still working for me...
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On September 08 2011 04:58 Excellent wrote:
so... mac client still working for me...
Mac Client will be going down next patch afaik.
Will update the TL LoL Tech Support Thread this weekend when I find time.
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great, i think developping for mac puts constraints on the pc veresion, since valuable time is spent for the mac.
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On September 08 2011 07:07 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:
great, i think developping for mac puts constraints on the pc veresion, since valuable time is spent for the mac.
...lol.
love the anti-mac bs in here. upsets me, had no clue LoL mac client was being shut down until I tried to log in today. I don't have any other words for it really, as i'm speechless, except, nice going Riot, nice going.
edit: wow! at least we get a champion bundle so we can.. hey.. waiiiit a second..
edit2: oh, nevermind. apparently the offer only lasted a few days and ended on the 6th...
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I have updated the Tech Support Thread with some information I recently saw. This is purely for reference purposes only.
For any Mac Users who are having difficultly with obtaining their Champion Bundle, my recommendation would be to submit a Support Ticket and explain your case. You may be successful depending on the circumstances.
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On September 14 2011 01:50 MoonBear wrote:
I have updated the Tech Support Thread with some information I recently saw. This is purely for reference purposes only.
For any Mac Users who are having difficultly with obtaining their Champion Bundle, my recommendation would be to submit a Support Ticket and explain your case. You may be successful depending on the circumstances.
Tamat said the rewards will be added to the accounts by the end of september, so i'd say sit tight before flooding them with tickets!
reference: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1185192
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Nono, you guys have this all wrong. There is a mac 'beta' client out there. It does work very well. It is unofficial but Riot respects them, and recognizes them. boompje.net is the website.
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Telling people "they have this wrong" when all their posts are from september. lol.
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United States22154 Posts
please don't necro things
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