EPT[READ] Improving this section - Page 5
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Tadzio
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
For example I created the Kassadin thread (although originally someone else did, lol). At the time I was probably the best Kass player here, and one of the best around (huah, humility). Then I took a hiatus due to school + work overwhelming me. But even before I took a hiatus I was tiring of Kass due to matchups (primarily MF). By the time I came back new heroes like Jarv and the shifting metagame axed his viability by a huge chunk, so that I stopped playing him. Now people still play him, but they don't do what my guide does, and I don't really know how to play him anymore because I just don't play him, at all. And in a situation like that, I can more-or-less apologize for not keeping up to date with the hero, but... at what point are you alleviated of responsibility regarding that hero, and at what point is it simply time to turn the page and say "this guy has changed/the play environment has changed so much that stuff is now obsolete, can we just make a new guide"? | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On July 15 2011 15:37 Southlight wrote: Well, on the topic of champion threads, sometimes it's just difficult for the OP to keep it up to date. For example I created the Kassadin thread (although originally someone else did, lol). At the time I was probably the best Kass player here, and one of the best around (huah, humility). Then I took a hiatus due to school + work overwhelming me. But even before I took a hiatus I was tiring of Kass due to matchups (primarily MF). By the time I came back new heroes like Jarv and the shifting metagame axed his viability by a huge chunk, so that I stopped playing him. Now people still play him, but they don't do what my guide does, and I don't really know how to play him anymore because I just don't play him, at all. And in a situation like that, I can more-or-less apologize for not keeping up to date with the hero, but... at what point are you alleviated of responsibility regarding that hero, and at what point is it simply time to turn the page and say "this guy has changed/the play environment has changed so much that stuff is now obsolete, can we just make a new guide"? Just let high ELO people who are active on this forums edit the OPs. If there's a champion sub-forum made for all the champ threads it should be easy to divide the work load among a few of the people who are well known here for not being awful. I'm not trying to volunteer those people for this kind of thing, but I think something like that would be 10x better than it being the responsibility of whoever just happens to make the thread first. Not to mention it'd be a lot better than having to have champ threads be locked and forgotten about when the OP gets tired of that champ or goes afk for a few months. Just throwing that idea out there though. I'm not good at this game so I'm sure as hell not volunteering for that kind of job but maybe some of the higher ELO people who frequent this forum would be interested? | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
I like the GD how it is. A sub forum for tournaments, and a sub-forum for champs would be great. (That could link to the wiki!) | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
http://liquidlol.wikispaces.com/ for a while. And my point was that high ELO people don't necessarily stick to one champ, or even continue to remain familiar with a champ, and certainly aren't guaranteed to even stick with the game (life happens). A year later there's no guarantee Smash still mains Jarv, and who knows how obsolete that guide might end up being? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On July 15 2011 16:37 Southlight wrote: We had this http://liquidlol.wikispaces.com/ for a while. And my point was that high ELO people don't necessarily stick to one champ, or even continue to remain familiar with a champ, and certainly aren't guaranteed to even stick with the game (life happens). A year later there's no guarantee Smash still mains Jarv, and who knows how obsolete that guide might end up being? Yeah, I can get that. I just don't want there to be an endless cycle of closing threads as they become obsolete and making new ones. This games meta, and thus what champs are viable, changes pretty frequently. | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
I've not looked in a guide since i was lvl 18~ and I've been pretty succesfull in the ladder. Stop spending so much time theorycrafting and play instead (Which I know is hard because the servers are down so much, but still.) Thats just my opinion though, I've always thought that gamesense was more important then knowing how much base damage orianna has, for cleaning up the forum I think that there should be links in 1 thread to propper guides that have been confirmed(?) by decent players from other sites. The thread already exists but it could be cleaned up quite a bit like this. The players that want to post guides could post them on another site and then reply in that thread and ask for people to look through it and review/grade it. The OP will have to put some effort in though, but I'm quite sure there will be someone willing to do such a thing. This way obsolete guides can just be removed from the list and another person could write the guide to replace it. As for the bit about bad advice, instead of seeing who wrote it, think about what he wrote for a second and judge for yourself if it sounds decent or just rediculous, the chances of getting multiple opinions in here are quite good so it shouldn't be to hard to make a choice. If your wondering why I'm not playing but writing, I'm at work. (small joke because my post is so serious.) Theres a first time for everything. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
1) I like the large GD thread and its banter. However, there are tons of great champion (item, warding, rune buying) posts (discussions/guides) in that thread that get buried pages back within hours. Its a shame because then they get lost in the banter and are never seen again. It would be great if many of these posts made it into their respective topic threads where they could be given more exposure. 2) I have cringed at the latest trend of posting champion guides before the champions are even released. While I realize TL will not have an "expert" for every champion, I think there needs to be bit of buffer time from when champions are released to when a thread can be created. The thread should contain more than wiki stats and spell descriptions (I can use wiki for that) and should discuss viable ways to build and play a champion. Obviously none of this can occur if you haven't even played the champion yet. 3) I would like to see moderation outside the GD thread and less inside of it. While it would be hard to moderate bad advice, highlighting quality/skilled posters like in the SC2 strat section could help filter the advice given. | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:12 Southlight wrote: 0/9/21 sapph 2 pots, skillbuild same (i do q e e w e r) cata -> deathcap -> MOAR AP MOAR I'd like to give lulzahar some lovin' esp with the first two replies calling him the worst AP hero in the game. How're we dealing with this sort of situ? Edit: Oh I guess Smash had this nugget too On May 11 2011 04:12 Mogwai wrote: sapphire -> cata -> boots -> revolver -> generic caster shit. Base damages are crazy so you can forego AP for early banshee's if you like or you can use your good scaling and just rush deathcap or w/e. ps. I don't even use that skillbuild anymore. pss. plz give taric new skin <-- someone kill turkey for me. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
copy the General Discussion thread to the Sports and Games section. make it show as League of Legends over there. update OP with a bunch of useful links, and most importantly include a link and a disclaimer stating that there is a LoL subforum. its kinda hidden/obscure right now imoimoimo | ||
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Dont-Panic
Germany567 Posts
This would help make the LoL forums more organized and make it easier for people who aren't reading the forum frequently to participate in the discussions. I also think it would attract more attention this way because if people visit the LoL forum at the moment they see ~4-8 active threads the most active of them being the General Discussions thread where you never really know what everyone is talking about and some champion threads. Another point about the champion threads. It's just an idea and I don't know if it's possible to implement something like that but I would prefer these threads to be kind of a brainstorming about champions, where good players discuss how they would play the champion currently, how they would Lane vs. X and so on. The problem is this should all be in one post or in consecutive posts and it should be clear how old the posts are. Maybe this could be done externally and then be linked to this forum so that the other (not so good) players could comment in the forums expressing their opinion. But as I said this is only a mere suggestion and I know something like that would be very hard to implement. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Like, for most regulars here you get a feel for the quality of their posts and simply have some respect for them over time, however if someone new shows up and brings up something I don't agree with I'm never sure if he's some 1200 scrub that makes no sense or some sekrit 2k elo who has actual strong points in his thoughtprocess that I fail to recognize. Any idea how we could implement something like that? | ||
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