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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2011 15:25 GMT
#9961
On March 19 2011 23:39 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 23:27 Shikyo wrote:
On March 19 2011 23:23 BlackPaladin wrote:
Because annie's stun animation isn't the same? Like every ability has a particle effect at this point.

That's her passive, it's different. There's a million passives that have an animation like that, but you don't see Sion glowing every time he has enough mana for a stun.


lol are you kidding me? You can see how much mana sion has. You know if he can stun or not no problem. You know TF can pull a card and stun you. It's common sense. You know if annie can stun you or not. You know if taric can stun you or not. Renekton didn't use his stun in the last 10 seconds? Well, he can stun you herpderp. Oh no, anivia's slow moving stun is coming at me. I better step gracefully to the side and completely dodge it. So unfair for anivia players. Should totally not allow other people to be able to see that 5 min travel time.

Like, I find TF's card choosing to be stupid and the qwe solution sounds pretty nice, but actually being able to see which card he chose is never a bad thing in my eyes.

I'm not kidding. You can see how much mana TF has as well. All of your examples are completely unrelated, except sions where you make no sense.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
March 19 2011 15:27 GMT
#9962
really liking the tanky ap's right now
swain is just so much fun,1 v 5 with blue buff
ryze is probably one of the best casters in game right now in solo q,so much damage once u learn how to combo properly Q -> R -> W -> Q -> E -> Q and tanky as fuck too
i wish riot would give me better ping
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
March 19 2011 15:47 GMT
#9963
So does ryze need *any* AP at all? Feels like he can go pure mana/tank items and still hit like several trucks. Very rude t.t
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 19 2011 15:48 GMT
#9964
No AP at all~
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 15:49:58
March 19 2011 15:49 GMT
#9965
On March 20 2011 00:25 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 23:39 BlackPaladin wrote:
On March 19 2011 23:27 Shikyo wrote:
On March 19 2011 23:23 BlackPaladin wrote:
Because annie's stun animation isn't the same? Like every ability has a particle effect at this point.

That's her passive, it's different. There's a million passives that have an animation like that, but you don't see Sion glowing every time he has enough mana for a stun.


lol are you kidding me? You can see how much mana sion has. You know if he can stun or not no problem. You know TF can pull a card and stun you. It's common sense. You know if annie can stun you or not. You know if taric can stun you or not. Renekton didn't use his stun in the last 10 seconds? Well, he can stun you herpderp. Oh no, anivia's slow moving stun is coming at me. I better step gracefully to the side and completely dodge it. So unfair for anivia players. Should totally not allow other people to be able to see that 5 min travel time.

Like, I find TF's card choosing to be stupid and the qwe solution sounds pretty nice, but actually being able to see which card he chose is never a bad thing in my eyes.

I'm not kidding. You can see how much mana TF has as well. All of your examples are completely unrelated, except sions where you make no sense.


the difference is that Sion, Taric, Renekton, Blitzcrank, (everyone else in the game) can just USE their stuns, and they have little to no visual cue beforehand unless they activated their on-hit ability too early. Even Annie doesn't have to go through that cycle picking BS.

It's the combination of TF needing to cycle through his cards, along with everyone and their dog knowing he's doing it, that makes PAC really bad game design. Taking either drawback out would make it much better.
it's my first day
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 19 2011 15:53 GMT
#9966
On March 20 2011 00:47 Haemonculus wrote:
So does ryze need *any* AP at all? Feels like he can go pure mana/tank items and still hit like several trucks. Very rude t.t


Not really, his AP ratios are quite trash now. I mean, if you pick up some AP via Archangel/buffs/bluepot it's not completly wasted but it's not very good either.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 19 2011 16:38 GMT
#9967
On March 20 2011 00:47 Haemonculus wrote:
So does ryze need *any* AP at all? Feels like he can go pure mana/tank items and still hit like several trucks. Very rude t.t


always mana never ap, always kill never die
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BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 17:35:33
March 19 2011 16:57 GMT
#9968
horrible post, removed by yours truly.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
March 19 2011 16:57 GMT
#9969
On March 20 2011 00:53 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 00:47 Haemonculus wrote:
So does ryze need *any* AP at all? Feels like he can go pure mana/tank items and still hit like several trucks. Very rude t.t


Not really, his AP ratios are quite trash now. I mean, if you pick up some AP via Archangel/buffs/bluepot it's not completly wasted but it's not very good either.


Only AP he will get is Void Staff and even that one is a questionable buy.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
March 19 2011 17:48 GMT
#9970
Jiji builds him RoA before banshee's, gives a lot of mana and will make him rly nice and tanky later on (u usually have nice mr and armor but not enough health).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#9971
on Ryze the op build is 3 Banshees and 2 Frozen Hearts. So insane.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 18:31:45
March 19 2011 18:29 GMT
#9972
On March 20 2011 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
on Ryze the op build is 3 Banshees and 2 Frozen Hearts. So insane.


What is with you and bad builds?
Not getting at least 1 archangels there just makes no sense. You'd probably want like thornmail or something as well just to make sure you kill EVERYONE.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 19 2011 18:32 GMT
#9973
Nah just make everyone on your team get a thornmail. GG no RE.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 19 2011 18:33 GMT
#9974
On March 20 2011 02:48 ManBearPig wrote:
Jiji builds him RoA before banshee's, gives a lot of mana and will make him rly nice and tanky later on (u usually have nice mr and armor but not enough health).

He only does RoA before Banshee's in games where he's carrying super-hard and he can afford to skimp on the early survivability.

In close games, in games where he had an iffy early game, or in games where the other team has a fed caster, he doesn't hesitate to skip RoA and go straight BVeil.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2011 19:06 GMT
#9975
On March 20 2011 03:29 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
on Ryze the op build is 3 Banshees and 2 Frozen Hearts. So insane.


What is with you and bad builds?
Not getting at least 1 archangels there just makes no sense. You'd probably want like thornmail or something as well just to make sure you kill EVERYONE.

Why thornmail instead of frozen heart.

Archangel you can use but its less surviv, just go 2 of both then
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 19 2011 19:41 GMT
#9976
void staff~~
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 19:44:54
March 19 2011 19:44 GMT
#9977
Anyone have a hotshotgg livestream vod where manyreason is spewing garbage in vent? Im trying to put together a LoL soundboard with the greatest personalities of the community
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2011 20:09 GMT
#9978
On March 20 2011 04:41 HeavOnEarth wrote:
void staff~~

yeah I'd rather get that than arch.


Btw on Tryndamere I'm about to have a revealation of an amazing build soon, I hope.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 19 2011 20:33 GMT
#9979
Archangel on ryze = bad, tear of the goddess on ryze = must (don't rush it though). 1350 mana is huge boost for Ryze
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 21:07:41
March 19 2011 21:06 GMT
#9980
On March 20 2011 00:49 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 00:25 Shikyo wrote:
On March 19 2011 23:39 BlackPaladin wrote:
On March 19 2011 23:27 Shikyo wrote:
On March 19 2011 23:23 BlackPaladin wrote:
Because annie's stun animation isn't the same? Like every ability has a particle effect at this point.

That's her passive, it's different. There's a million passives that have an animation like that, but you don't see Sion glowing every time he has enough mana for a stun.


lol are you kidding me? You can see how much mana sion has. You know if he can stun or not no problem. You know TF can pull a card and stun you. It's common sense. You know if annie can stun you or not. You know if taric can stun you or not. Renekton didn't use his stun in the last 10 seconds? Well, he can stun you herpderp. Oh no, anivia's slow moving stun is coming at me. I better step gracefully to the side and completely dodge it. So unfair for anivia players. Should totally not allow other people to be able to see that 5 min travel time.

Like, I find TF's card choosing to be stupid and the qwe solution sounds pretty nice, but actually being able to see which card he chose is never a bad thing in my eyes.

I'm not kidding. You can see how much mana TF has as well. All of your examples are completely unrelated, except sions where you make no sense.


the difference is that Sion, Taric, Renekton, Blitzcrank, (everyone else in the game) can just USE their stuns, and they have little to no visual cue beforehand unless they activated their on-hit ability too early. Even Annie doesn't have to go through that cycle picking BS.

It's the combination of TF needing to cycle through his cards, along with everyone and their dog knowing he's doing it, that makes PAC really bad game design. Taking either drawback out would make it much better.


I don't view the waiting for a card thing as an intended drawback, I view it as bad interface design. Of course riot might consider it a little minigame...

that's one thing about being a game designer, you have access to feedback we can't get. it's entirely possible the audience the character is intended for actually really likes the pick a card mechanic, even if it makes us want to rip our own faces off

As far as balance, uh, I don't think pick a card is underpowered, lol.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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