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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-02 12:55:40
May 02 2016 12:50 GMT
#61
On May 02 2016 21:46 Leolio wrote:
Tracer is just way too easy to play at plat-diamond-master level (ranks 1-10). Like Li Ming, she's very forgiving and very efficient.
And she's obviously imba at this level as Hotslogs shows, even if I don't care about her at all. I mostly played vs bad Tracers and they had a huge impact on every game.

And she's OP as fuck vs block, and especially vs Murky (breaks block too quickly, kills the fish in 1 second).


And the Egg killing bug/feature makes it impossible to play Murky nowadays


70% winrate against Murky .... Murgl murgl :/
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 02 2016 14:56 GMT
#62
On May 02 2016 10:36 GeneralSnoop wrote:
Playing Valla, Tyrael, Illidan, or any other mobility heroes against her just feels sad (admittedly I am bad with illidan vs most people, but my valla is level 18). It feels like my skills or health or damage are reduced due to my mobility, which now is completely useless since I can neither engage nor escape better than anyone else!


Zeratul with Vorpal Blades/Wormhole is the only Hero mobile enough to catch Tracer, imo. Everyone else just has to rely on good positioning and poking her out before she can get the big damage in. Illidan is horrendous against her.

On May 02 2016 21:07 Harris1st wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "dash-meta" ?

Played a few games yesterday and everyone in my team had a dash/ blink. Was so awesome

We played Tracer, Monk, Illidan, Chen and Falstad. The slightest missposition from an enemy meant he had 5 ppl dashing for him and you couldn't get away from us ^^


If League of Legends has any sort of pattern to it, it means that a tank meta will necessarily follow.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-02 22:34:10
May 02 2016 22:30 GMT
#63
First Look: Balance Update Coming This Week
Blizzard Entertainment 5/2/2016
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We’re planning to release a new Balance Update for Heroes of the Storm on Wednesday, May 4, in order to apply a few balance changes. Read on for the complete list of changes we’ll be making with this week’s Balance Update.

Tracer
  • Health decreased from 1270 (+4% per level) to 1206 (+4% per level).
  • Health Regeneration decreased from 5.25 (+4% per level) to approximately 5.02 (+4% per level) Health per second.
  • Basic Attack damage reduced from 29 (+4% per level) to 27 (+4% per level).
  • Focus Fire (Talent)
    • Final shot damage bonus increased from 30% to 35% of the total magazine’s damage.

  • Locked and Loaded (Talent)
    • Damage bonus increased from 35% to 40%.

  • Melee (W)
    • Pulse Strike (Talent)
      • Pulse Bomb charge bonus increased from 15% to 20%.


  • Recall (E)
    • Cooldown increased from 24 to 26 seconds.

  • Slipstream (Talent)
      Cooldown reduction decreased from 4 to 2 seconds.


Developer Comments: As we’re sure many of you have noticed, Tracer is performing just a little too well on all fronts. While we are excited to bring her to the Nexus, we understand that in the right hands, she can be an absolute terror to the enemy team. We’re lowering her Health, Basic Attack damage, and increasing Recall’s cooldown to make her less universally powerful. We’re going to be giving back some of that Basic Attack damage on her Level 16 Talent tier to further separate Sleight of Hand from the other options, which should help the choice between more Pulse Bomb charges vs. stronger Basic Attacks feel like a more meaningful decision.

We also saw an opportunity to help improve her Talent pick rates, so we’re making minor adjustments to Pulse Strike and Slipstream.

We’ll continue to keep a close eye on her, as we believe she is similar to Illidan, where the right place from a balance perspective is more narrow than most of our other Heroes.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-02 22:42:52
May 02 2016 22:42 GMT
#64
What does first look mean?
Very dissapointing patches these three or so weeks in a row. This one included but maybe more to come?
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 02 2016 22:53 GMT
#65
I'm guessing first look means a preview of what is coming.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
May 02 2016 23:07 GMT
#66
*Crosses finger for the support patch*
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
May 03 2016 09:12 GMT
#67
btw support, who/ what is the next hero and will there be a new support any time soon?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 03 2016 09:50 GMT
#68
On May 03 2016 18:12 Harris1st wrote:
btw support, who/ what is the next hero and will there be a new support any time soon?

We don't really know, we don't even know what other heroes are we getting before Gul'Dan(that will be available on August 30 when WoW Legion comes out).
People were talking about Kel'Thuzad few months ago, but who knows if he will be out anytime soon, and he will probably be assassin/specialist.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
May 03 2016 10:18 GMT
#69
The problem with supports is that 1 small balance error breaks the game. Make 1 support or 1 warrior OP and the game sucks. When Rehgar was OP I went from r5 to r12 just because I didn't want to buy him or Ming so I had fewer chances to win every game.
Fortunately now we have bans.

So a support patch is really the last thing I want. I feel EVERY support is good right now, some better on some maps, or with some teams.
Tyrande, Lili, BW and Rehgar feel very allaround. Khara hard counters cloak, Malf hard counters dive (Twilight Dream + roots = dead divers), Uther is great with good frontlines, Tassadar is awesome as 2nd support, Morales is OP on stationary objectives with a good frontine and hammer/raynor...

I wouldn't touch supports if I were Blizzard. IMO supports and warriors are the most balanced classes right now. I only wish we had more choice in pure solo tanks.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
May 03 2016 11:42 GMT
#70
playing support is quite dull though, ofcourse it can be fun.
But you sit back and heal for most heroes, that bloody suck.

You need to take cleanse at 7 when that tree is the most fun of them all.
Need WAY more variation for the supports, also MORE utility and MORE active play for them all. They might be balanced or not but design wise they stink long way down the road!
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 03 2016 12:19 GMT
#71
We know Arthas and Anub'arak are getting talent changes, just a matter of when.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 03 2016 13:01 GMT
#72
if you want choice at level 7 on support, play Lili. She is pretty OP right now anyway, because she is strong against current try hard heroes. Just lacking a buff to her healing like Uther.

Health nerf on Tracer is evil, wonder if I can 100/0 her now on Nova without effort.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 13:41:26
May 03 2016 13:40 GMT
#73
Well, it depends if snipe hits and if she has fast reaction. IMO it won't work unless the Tracer is bad or unless you hit Snipe (master) from cloak.

Foxxan: I admit I wasn't thinking about fun when playing support, just balance. But to me supports are fun, unless your teammates suck way too much. BW and Lili are pretty intense to play, Tyrande is very fun, Tassadar too. Can't speak much for the others but they can be very fun. Lost a game vs DPS Malfurion yesterday, I can tell you this guy had the more fun amongst all 10 of us.
KrytosSR
Profile Joined August 2015
United States28 Posts
May 03 2016 13:45 GMT
#74
I would bet on several more Overwatch heroes in the near future. I would love to see Reinhardt in HOTS
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 03 2016 14:26 GMT
#75
dunno supports are very fun to play for me, but they're low impact heroes and without waveclear of play making potential you're completely reliant on your team to win games

which is a fucking liability in this game sadly
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
May 03 2016 14:33 GMT
#76
Would love to see that guy with the big shield from overwatch, could add some new dimensions to hots if done porperly i presume.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 03 2016 15:10 GMT
#77
Zenyatta could be an interesting support with heal over time, amplify damage, and high damage personal in exchange for very low health and an aoe heal ultimate that makes him invulnerable while it is going off.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 03 2016 15:31 GMT
#78
On May 03 2016 23:33 Foxxan wrote:
Would love to see that guy with the big shield from overwatch, could add some new dimensions to hots if done porperly i presume.


Reinhardt. I'd also put money on Reaper and Pharah making it into the game sooner rather than later.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
May 03 2016 17:03 GMT
#79
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Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
May 03 2016 17:18 GMT
#80
I am 100% clueless what hero this is.
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