EPTQQ/Rage Thread. - Page 127
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On December 02 2016 09:44 Larkin wrote: The fact we're so outmatched as dia/masters players by high masters/gm players who themselves are outmatched by pro teams who themselves are outmatched by top EU pro teams who themselves are outmatched by Korean pro teams is fucking terrifying. ^ This. The level differences are insane and there's so many of those jumps at the top level. | ||
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Ej_
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Leolio
France633 Posts
On December 05 2016 23:28 Ej_ wrote: i swear to fucking god if i get another game where we wipe 5 people in lategame and lose nobody and the team doesnt end i will report all of them Just do it ! I would, but I'm sometimes a dick. The MM is chaos right now. This week-end I played 6 HL games. None were balanced. (won 3) Today 4 HL games. 1 balanced game out of the 4, and it was due to me playing bad, until I got my shit together and we won (won 3 games too). Played Chen every time. He's really a win-more hero and noob crusher, like Illidan. Huge skill gaps in every games. We lost the one where our Valla went for a random build. Neither arrow, multishot or tank killer. All hoodie build (so no manticore, it doesn't have the cute hoodie icon): ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wHCNvfE.png) I'm not a Valla pro, but it doesn't look good at all, especially since they had 2 tanks + Kerrigan. That guy was 1400 MMR 10 games ago, but he had good placements. That sucks for both him and us. (side note: Valla was picked in every game too) The good news is I'm 2 victories away from getting back to diamond. All because I messed my placement games, I had to climb all season. It's pretty annoying. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On December 06 2016 00:59 Leolio wrote: Just do it ! I would, but I'm sometimes a dick. The MM is chaos right now. This week-end I played 6 HL games. None were balanced. (won 3) Today 4 HL games. 1 balanced game out of the 4, and it was due to me playing bad, until I got my shit together and we won (won 3 games too). Played Chen every time. He's really a win-more hero and noob crusher, like Illidan. Huge skill gaps in every games. I noticed something wrong over the weekend too. At one point yesterday teams stopped seeming to understand how to draft, started doing very strange strategy, etc. In particular, my last four-game stretch(diamond level), I saw; * A kerrigan comp on infernal shrines crushed every single fight against a varian duel wield build. (no one would lock down/burst varian, which is all you have to do there.) * Enemy team drafted standard illidan comp. Our lastpick went with zarya as solo tank. We got crushed, of course. * On BHB my team decided to merc as a group of 4 at 2 minutes, leaving me to double soak top and bot lane completely abandoned. That group of 4 engaged the enemy at every chance and we ended up with a 3 level deficit by the level 7 tier talents. (never caught up). On the flip side, enemy team couldn't finish the game until 20. (???) * On towers I accidentally locked in a raynor early in the draft, b/c apparently I am space-marine racist and thought he looked just like tychus. However, enemy team responded by going with a solo support tracer comp and got crushed. Drafting tracer into counters to her seems odd to me. It basically felt like all of diamond league bought some sort of cursed artifact from a shady business and were transformed into children. That's the best explanation I can come up with, but I guess MM being broken from old rusty players over the weekend also works. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Example: the other day, friend and I were on Cursed Hollow. We were last picks. Our first two picks are Valla and Nova. We talk Krendor (shouts out) into going Muradin, which he does, with Haymaker. Teammate and I are thinking (having preselected brightwing and falstad from the start of the draft - pretty standard top tier picks on cursed) that we gotta do something a bit more to save the draft. Their team has drafted Tracer, Kael'thas, Diablo and Brightwing by this point. So we decide to yolo and take Auriel and Li Li. They last pick Alarak. We do okay to begin with, but they hit their 10 spike before us on their curse tribute and wipe us with an apoc that hits 3. We go down pretty hard. They get both bosses, big level lead, and 2 keeps, but we stay alive and put up some kills. Then we put up more kills. Then we get a curse. Then we get bosses. Then we get more kills and it's 20 to 18 and we get a keep. Then we get more kills and we end the game. They had a better draft, they had better play, they were winning and should have won the game. But they threw. That kinda shit happens all the time in Diamond/Master. People get overconfident and throw leads. People get ahead and don't know how to close out the game. It is so easy to win a game in the lategame just by getting a few picks. One time I won with Lunara, Murky, Gazlowe, Abathur, Nazeebo on BoE. That made me pretty convinced that drafts in HL are nothing compared to the throws. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7021 Posts
On December 06 2016 00:59 Leolio wrote: Just do it ! I would, but I'm sometimes a dick. The MM is chaos right now. This week-end I played 6 HL games. None were balanced. (won 3) Today 4 HL games. 1 balanced game out of the 4, and it was due to me playing bad, until I got my shit together and we won (won 3 games too). Played Chen every time. He's really a win-more hero and noob crusher, like Illidan. Huge skill gaps in every games. We lost the one where our Valla went for a random build. Neither arrow, multishot or tank killer. All hoodie build (so no manticore, it doesn't have the cute hoodie icon): I'm not a Valla pro, but it doesn't look good at all, especially since they had 2 tanks + Kerrigan. That guy was 1400 MMR 10 games ago, but he had good placements. That sucks for both him and us. (side note: Valla was picked in every game too) The good news is I'm 2 victories away from getting back to diamond. All because I messed my placement games, I had to climb all season. It's pretty annoying. Love that build, single target damage is ridiculous! Very map dependant though. Good on DS, Nuke map and BHB (lots of 1v1, 2v2 ) | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
On December 06 2016 04:21 Harris1st wrote: Love that build, single target damage is ridiculous! Very map dependant though. Good on DS, Nuke map and BHB (lots of 1v1, 2v2 ) The problem is the damage was literally ridiculous. Because they had 2 tanks Kerrigan Guldan (4 beefy targets) and Manticore was IMO mandatory here. Anyway he was so bad it didn't matter much in the end. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DKJGFJO.png) I guess this build is good vs squishies ? It's the first time I notice someone taking it and failing so much. I was Chen, and did very poorly because we were behind all game, which is not a good thing with Chen. Back to the rage, WHY IS IT THAT ARTANIS OR DEHAKA ARE IN EVERY HERO LEAGUE GAME AND I ALWAYS END WITH THE BAD ONE ? (SPOILER: THEY'RE ALL BAD) Do people mistake PTR and live ? I had 2 Artanis, the 2 sucked and we lost. I played vs Artanis, he sucked but hey, we got "unglobal presence Dehaka" on our team, the one who has no clue, dies a lot, almost never teleports. The damn guy was on Tychus the whole draft, I took Johanna. Then he locks Dehaka. Now we have no damage and they have 2 bruisers... So now that I'm back to diamond, I'll let my account sleep until a few weeks after the beginning of the season. HL is literally unplayable now. Protip on how to spot a bad Falstad / Dehaka: when he comes for the first fight mid, he flies / teleport there. Now his mount is on CD, and he won't be able to teleport to his lane after it. He gained nothing because right after flying he had to back to your towers in case the opponent comes. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On December 09 2016 00:13 Leolio wrote: Protip on how to spot a bad Falstad / Dehaka: when he comes for the first fight mid, he flies / teleport there. Now his mount is on CD, and he won't be able to teleport to his lane after it. He gained nothing because right after flying he had to back to your towers in case the opponent comes. Falstads do this to get a few bonus stacks of gathering storm safely. Generally by the time you have to rotate to another lane your mount is back up. (though I guess after the patch this won't be the case.) | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On December 10 2016 00:13 Leolio wrote: FUCK ME for the first time I forgot to finish my brawls. And I really wanted that Nova portrait. I've done every single brawl on my 3 accounts and this week I FUCKING FINISHED NONE. Now I have to wait until it rotates again... The brawls are garbage, but 1k gold for 3 games is too good to pass up. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On December 10 2016 03:28 Leolio wrote: This Nova brawl was trash. The current one is really fun imo. I think the complete opposite. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On December 10 2016 02:31 Foxxan wrote: Ye the brawls are really boring Agreed. Especially annoying if it is a Bo3 brawl - if I lose the first one, I just cant play on seriously, because I really hope to lose as fast as humanly possible | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
I had a terrible experience on the 2 or 3 Nova brawls I played. It favored camping and any bad player would hurt his own team even more than in HL. I was Nova main back in the days when I was rank 1, with a solid winrate, and I still lost all my brawls. Though I have to admit it wasn't snowbally at all and I had a game where we lost with their core at 1, so even if I had no fun, it cannot be considered a bad game. The GoT brawl seem fun to me, but it's because it's a bruiser brawl imo (won 9 out of 10). And pick 1 out of 3 heroes is very addictive. It's like gambling. Avoid HL if possible today. I had people in placement in all my games, up to 3 at the same time. Obviously they know the meta, the new maps and aren't rusted at all. Still winning a lot because I play mostly Chen and the slightest error vs a Chen is punished (and they don't know how to play around your drinking). Played vs a Kerrigan who had 14 death. I mean, their team reached 53 death. It must have been a very fun game for them. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/g0Ub5ps.png) | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
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