EPTHeroes Large General Thread - Page 59
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The_Red_Viper
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On March 14 2014 10:49 Pr0wler wrote: I'm actually suprised that someone buys stuff for a game that is in alpha. I mean common, stop buying shit that is not even complete !!! My head hurts every time I hear about "early access", kickstarter and things like that. I'm pretty sure these prices will change, because right now they are not tested at all. When they see actual data, they will update the prices accordingly... And if people are buying even in the Alpha I don't think the prices are going down  It's not a myth. You can't run free game just on cosmetics. Especially with Dota2's population of players. Valve made like 3-4 million from compendiums alone during TI3. They definatelly make a lot of money with Dota 2. You even have to add a fraction of every sale that uses the steam market. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:01 The_Red_Viper wrote: idra started streaming it, this gonna be good :D Interesting, he's seemed pretty calm in the past with Dota though, I think the "interesting" Idra only comes out in Starcraft. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
On March 14 2014 10:49 Pr0wler wrote: It's not a myth. You can't run free game just on cosmetics. Especially with Dota2's population of players. What's with Dota2's population of players? Anyhow, you are wrong. As others have said here, not only Valve can run the game on cosmetics sales, they are making a good profit from it. Also, one thing that wasn't mentioned is a tournament ticket sales. Valve used to take 75% of ticket revenue to themselves and only 25% was transferred to tournament organizers. Now, when tournaments can use ticket sales to increase the prise pool, distribution is probably different but I'm sure Valve are still getting some money from it. | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:02 SKC wrote: Valve made like 3-4 million from compendiums alone during TI3. They definatelly make a lot of money with Dota 2. You even have to add a fraction of every sale that uses the steam market. Considering it cost them a million in pricepool and I guess more than that to set the whole thing up, I don't think that this was too profitable. It just creates interest in the game to keep it profitable in the long run. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:09 CruelZeratul wrote: Considering it cost them a million in pricepool and I guess more than that to set the whole thing up, I don't think that this was too profitable. It just creates interest in the game to keep it profitable in the long run. The international isn't supposed to be profitable ny itself. That doesn't means Dota 2 isn't profitable. That's just one of the few numbers we have, we can't acess their finances. But if people are willing to spent almost 5m dollars on a single temporary item with a few benefits, it's a good sign that they are making money with other items as well. | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:09 CruelZeratul wrote: Considering it cost them a million in pricepool and I guess more than that to set the whole thing up, I don't think that this was too profitable. It just creates interest in the game to keep it profitable in the long run. Dota 2 and Team Fortress 2 item creators get $10.2 million payout from Valve in 2013 Only 661 users are creating items for Valve games, so the average community content producer earned $15,000 from the items he or she sold on Steam in 2013. Valve gives 25 percent of the sales of items to its creator, which means the publisher sold more than $40 million in user-created goods in 2013. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
Now tell me what their expenses are and we will know roughly their financial result... Too bad we don't know that. "Sold more than 40 million" means nothing. | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:22 Pr0wler wrote: Now tell me what their expenses are and we will know roughly their financial result... Too bad we don't know that. "Sold more than 40 million" means nothing. Well I was just trying to offer some information that I didn't know until looking it up. No need for the passive aggressive tone. And of course we don't have a financial statement for a private company, but we know valve is quite profitable as a whole. Edit: And that still means they are pocketing 30 million a year from cosmetics that other people design. Not bad. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:03 Cheren wrote: Interesting, he's seemed pretty calm in the past with Dota though, I think the "interesting" Idra only comes out in Starcraft. to be honest you have to think of a different mindset that happens with a new game. You know you aren't good, you know you are shit and you know you have a lot to learn. Hence no rage or anything. Wait until he starts getting good/playing a shit ton then you might see it come back. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
I, for one, am very disappointed. Blizzard has an amazing intellectual property that they have built for almost 2 decades. And they use it to make a copy of LoL. Blizzard had a chance to make something really new and refreshing for the MOBA scene, and instead we got LoL 2.0. Also, 10 bucks for a hero and 10 bucks again for a skin. Good joke. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:39 Emnjay808 wrote: Im sure all the LoL players are ecstatic about seeing this game finally being streamed. I, for one, am very disappointed. Blizzard has an amazing intellectual property that they have built for almost 2 decades. And they use it to make a copy of LoL. Blizzard had a chance to make something really new and refreshing for the MOBA scene, and instead we got LoL 2.0. Also, 10 bucks for a hero and 10 bucks again for a skin. Good joke. I fail to see how its LoL 2.0. Because its even more casual then LoL? If so then yes its guilty as charged which many people will like. LoL is just a more casual version of Dota. And Dota was born from Aeon of Storms. Every game has been inspired by/copied. And yes, they do indeed do some new things in the game. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On March 14 2014 11:39 Emnjay808 wrote: Im sure all the LoL players are ecstatic about seeing this game finally being streamed. I, for one, am very disappointed. Blizzard has an amazing intellectual property that they have built for almost 2 decades. And they use it to make a copy of LoL. Blizzard had a chance to make something really new and refreshing for the MOBA scene, and instead we got LoL 2.0. Also, 10 bucks for a hero and 10 bucks again for a skin. Good joke. Ummm not sure how you could watch this and say its LoL 2.0. Its very different from both LoL and Dota. | ||
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Ravensong170
United States858 Posts
Hell I'd pay money to play as Baleog and Olaf. Fuck yea I would. Edit: Apparently there was an interview where they talked about adding the Lost Vikings ? SHIT YEA. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13430 Posts
On March 14 2014 12:01 Jaaaaasper wrote: Its a dumbed down lol. Waytobe blizzard. I was hoping for something exciting, but that blizzard is dead. Tech alpha Dead game Wow .... -_- | ||
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