EPTAt least the other maps seem to have symmetrical gameplay for fair balance.
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2xNoodle
United States201 Posts
At least the other maps seem to have symmetrical gameplay for fair balance. | ||
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drkcid
Spain196 Posts
On February 03 2014 16:30 2xNoodle wrote: Watching that match on Cursed Hollow, I'm worried about the tribute spawns being random and favoring one team more than another since some of those spawn positions are closer to one team's base and offer terrain advantages. At least the other maps seem to have symmetrical gameplay for fair balance. I wouldn´t worry about the tribute spawns being random and favoring one team more than another, it will be like tossing a coin: one team will be the "defender" (the team closer to the tribute and the first one to arrive) and the other team will be the attacker (because the will arrive later), I mean the position of the tribute will define the role of each team and it won´t give any advantage IMO. After all the map control will be a decisive factor and not the random position of the tribute. | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On January 23 2014 06:10 Ethenielle wrote: Step 1: casualize WoW. Step 2: casualize SC ... Step X: casualize game Y If there is one thing you can certainly say, it's that they have changed their target demographic a lot from the old days. And unfortunately for people like me, there are rather a lot of companies opting for this route. Step 1. Casualize Dune 2 Step 2. Casualize roguelikes. Step 3. Casualize Total Annihilation Step 4. Casualize Everquest Step 5+. You now have successful game franchises that you can casualize further and make more money off of. Point is Blizzard games have always been causal compared to their contemporaries and predecessors. You can't compare modern Blizzard games to Blizzard games 10-15 years ago without looking at the whole industry, and when you do that it becomes pretty clear that they have the same niche in the industry they've always had. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On January 23 2014 06:10 Ethenielle wrote: Step 1: casualize WoW. Step 2: casualize SC ... Step X: casualize game Y If there is one thing you can certainly say, it's that they have changed their target demographic a lot from the old days. And unfortunately for people like me, there are rather a lot of companies opting for this route. Pft, you young'uns are all "me, me, me". What about the people who want Blizzard to go back to their Lost Viking and Rock 'n Roll Racing days? | ||
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
On January 23 2014 06:15 Manit0u wrote: But MtG is one of the simplest and most casual CCGs ever... It's kindergarten league when it comes to complexity, strategy involved etc. (one of the reasons why most people pick it up as their first CCG and later leave for something more challenging). Is Hearthstone even simpler and more casual than that? (never bothered to really check it out since I'm not much into WoW) Hm, can you name at least 5 CCG that are more complex than MTG in your opinion? And link to some places where people tell that they are leaving MTG because it is not complex/challenging enough? Also, did you play actual MTG, as in, trading card game and not some adaptation like Duels of the Planeswalkers? If you did, then what sets are you familiar with, did you play Constructed or Limited and which subtypes, and what level of play you had experienced yourself? I'm asking all this because it seems like you have no idea what you are talking about, or you are intentionally downplaying MTG for some reason. As someone who have played MTG on both casual and later competitive level, I hadn't seen a single evidence that would confirm what you are saying. Additionally, my friend is a huge CCG enthusiast, who dealt with a very large number of such games (he was an admin in a local CCGs store/club) and from our talks I never got the impression that there are many CCGs more complex than MTG. | ||
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Nyarly
France1030 Posts
On February 14 2014 05:23 Valiver wrote: MMO-Champion has a ton of info up about a lot of heroes and their abilities from alpha - http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3767-Heroes-of-the-Storm-Alpha-Client I have the alpha and i was able to play it. Tutorial : http://nyarly.dyndns.tv/videos/hots.mp4 Games with other heroes : Zeratul http://nyarly.dyndns.tv/videos/hots_zeratul.mp4 L70ETC http://nyarly.dyndns.tv/videos/hots_l70etc.mp4 DemonHunter http://nyarly.dyndns.tv/videos/hots_demonhunter.mp4 Tyrande http://nyarly.dyndns.tv/videos/hots_tyrande.mp4 Abathur (i didn't realize its range) http://nyarly.dyndns.tv/videos/hots_abathur.mp4 Kerrigan is great, zeratul is OP, raynor is cool. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On February 16 2014 19:32 MyrMindservant wrote: Hm, can you name at least 5 CCG that are more complex than MTG in your opinion? And link to some places where people tell that they are leaving MTG because it is not complex/challenging enough? Also, did you play actual MTG, as in, trading card game and not some adaptation like Duels of the Planeswalkers? If you did, then what sets are you familiar with, did you play Constructed or Limited and which subtypes, and what level of play you had experienced yourself? I'm asking all this because it seems like you have no idea what you are talking about, or you are intentionally downplaying MTG for some reason. As someone who have played MTG on both casual and later competitive level, I hadn't seen a single evidence that would confirm what you are saying. Additionally, my friend is a huge CCG enthusiast, who dealt with a very large number of such games (has was an admin in a local CCGs store/club) and from our talks I never got the impression that there are many CCGs more complex than MTG. Hes talking out of his ass the only tcg that can come close to tcg is either pokemon tcg or yugihoh | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
This is another map called Blackheart Bay, which focuses on a certain goal, according to the design Blizzard wishes to implement. I won't judge until I've played, but it looks a bit slow for me. | ||
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
A few details from r/heroesofthestorm: -Only European journalists have received invites, a Blizzard employee posted that "We've already chosen the invitees and informed the European Blizzard community contributors who we had contacted or who had been recommended to us." -Technical alpha will only have an NA server. -NA invites will also be "soon". -New patch today with thousands of changes. -Tychus was revealed as a hero since the thread was last bumped, he has an ult that makes him the pilot of the Odin (large Thor from WoL campaign) and he can fire short, medium, or long range missiles. Odin form seems similar to Shadow Fiend (?) from Dota. + Show Spoiler + -Technical alpha will not have NDA, so expect streams and videos shortly. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Is currently streaming some Alpha. Only got 160 viewers? :s | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On March 13 2014 19:01 Pandemona wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/hotsalpha Is currently streaming some Alpha. Only got 160 viewers? :s Well right now it's a Bieber stream so maybe that's why... | ||
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LastWish
2013 Posts
Brings a lot of money and people, but no stable fanbase or longlasting product(stabile and longlasting work against deep capitalism, which exploits products that last only a set amount of time). There is a lot of unsubtle references to everything = greatest sign of modern commercial product along with most probable low quality due to the need to satisfy everyone. | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
On March 13 2014 21:17 LastWish wrote: This has signs of a casual commercial product - so nothing for me. Brings a lot of money and people, but no stable fanbase or longlasting product(stabile and longlasting work against deep capitalism, which exploits products that last only a set amount of time). There is a lot of unsubtle references to everything = greatest sign of modern commercial product along with most probable low quality due to the need to satisfy everyone. Can't underestimate a blizzard product though. I'm sure there will be a stable fanbase since it features lots of popular blizzard characters. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
On March 13 2014 19:01 Pandemona wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/hotsalpha Is currently streaming some Alpha. Only got 160 viewers? :s guess that was a mistake^^ The community has closed this channel due to terms of service violations | ||
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Heroes of the Storm | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
I wonder if they will change those prices. | ||
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On March 14 2014 09:57 Saryph wrote: https://twitter.com/Cyborgmatt/status/444269928234094592 I wonder if they will change those prices. Depends on the demand, I think they want to charge more because of the pre-existing lore but if people aren't using real money they'll probably lower prices. Also apparently that's only the most expensive heroes. Furthermore, skins that are just recoloring can be unlocked without real money, where something like that is $5 in LoL. | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On March 14 2014 09:57 Saryph wrote: https://twitter.com/Cyborgmatt/status/444269928234094592 I wonder if they will change those prices. Wow Blizzard literally worse than Riot at this point. | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
Edit: Nevermind, probably more than $165... | ||
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