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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Changing gears a bit, I finally went back to Arthas post-nerf and he's surprisingly good still. I took Regen Master on Garden and he was pretty survivable. Also the buff to Howling Blast finally meant I could lock people down easier (I was really bad at landing Howling Blasts before). But it's a little weird playing a warrior without a stun / hard cc for things like Nazeebo let / stopping BW from Z-ing away. He's no Stiches, but other than ETC, who else compares? So are people just caught up on how much self-healing and damage he lost or am I delusional thinking he's still good? Also, why on earth does he have Rewind, I can't see that being viable over shield / more ghouls. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 28 2015 04:37 Wuster wrote: Yes, Tyrande has some pretty epic moments. When I first started she was on free rotation and the first hero that made me feel like I was doing work in the game. Changing gears a bit, I finally went back to Arthas post-nerf and he's surprisingly good still. I took Regen Master on Garden and he was pretty survivable. Also the buff to Howling Blast finally meant I could lock people down easier (I was really bad at landing Howling Blasts before). But it's a little weird playing a warrior without a stun / hard cc for things like Nazeebo let / stopping BW from Z-ing away. He's no Stiches, but other than ETC, who else compares? So are people just caught up on how much self-healing and damage he lost or am I delusional thinking he's still good? Also, why on earth does he have Rewind, I can't see that being viable over shield / more ghouls. I think people are making a mistake in looking at the warriors on an absolute scale of "who is the best." In reality, "the best" depends upon what your team needs and what the other team has. They all offer different strengths and are in a pretty good place balance-wise. With regards to Arthas specifically, I see him as the big damage dealer warrior, and he fills that role well. He'll be what you want in some circumstances, but not all. EDIT: I still think Stitches is bullshit, but now that people are playing with slam/bile builds instead of fully leveraging his hook and gorge, he's not as much of a problem. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
The problem is why would you pick him now? He does t have the biggest health pool, he doesn't have the biggest sustain anymore, he doesn't deals the most damage from a warrior. Also, as you noted, he doesn't have any stun, the slows and the freeze are good, but frankly a stun is better because it not only locks them down, but also interrupts them and don't let them cast anything. So why would you pick art has over others, who are good at what he does, but have higher health, higher mobility or quite simply an stun? | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10135 Posts
I mean, i know what you are getting at, with the team role, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have one. | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
On February 28 2015 02:34 NonY wrote: I wasn't regularly checking my allies' ranks, but I think I started regularly matching with rank 1's when I was in mid to high 30's. I would guess that low to mid 40's is where it could first start happening "naturally" for a solo queue player if he wins every single game. I didn't win every single early game and I went on a bad losing streak before I really raised my MMR. I think MMR is really volatile when you first start, so if you win every single game then you'll shoot up surprisingly quick. And if you fail to carry games early on, then you'll miss the chance to shoot up while your MMR is volatile, and it'll become a real grind and take a while. The thing is though that anything can happen with matchmaking when queue times hit 6.5 minutes. Like I think matchmaking rating almost gets thrown out, or becomes the lowest priority, when queue time gets there. I would guess that if 10 people were in queue -- and one of them was the highest MMR heroes league player in the world and the 9 others were people queuing for their first heroes league game, then shortly after any one of their queues hit 6.5 minutes, they'd all get put in a game together. Yep that is how the matchmaking works at the moment and it is really bad :D I'm close to starting losing games on purpose to get a lower MMR and queue faster. Blizzard please invite people to the game !! | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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Kupo
Sweden151 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On February 28 2015 15:19 FreeZEternal wrote: What's up with ppl talking trash about Illidan having lowest hero dmg in the stats during a game lol The easiest way to blame someone else on the team for losing is to point at a random number lowest on the team and go "look at your XXX you suck." Doesn't matter the hero or the number, it just lets them vent on someone else to make them feel justified that they aren't the problem and every loss is another person's fault. | ||
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On February 28 2015 15:19 FreeZEternal wrote: What's up with ppl talking trash about Illidan having lowest hero dmg in the stats during a game lol Just wait until you run into Uthers (it has been Uther all three times), that flame Abathur for not joining teamfights. You know, in the flesh and not as a hat. | ||
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
On February 28 2015 20:35 h41fgod wrote: Just wait until you run into Uthers (it has been Uther all three times), that flame Abathur for not joining teamfights. You know, in the flesh and not as a hat. You don't have to wait for Uther, if a Team loses and you are playing QM, there is at least 1 "special guy" blaming Abathur that he is "just standing at Core all the time" or him "just PvE'ing the lanes and not joining teamfights"  | ||
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On February 28 2015 21:31 Talaris wrote: You don't have to wait for Uther, if a Team loses and you are playing QM, there is at least 1 "special guy" blaming Abathur that he is "just standing at Core all the time" or him "just PvE'ing the lanes and not joining teamfights" Well, standing at core reduces the effectiveness of locusts, not like that makes him right though. Sometimes I wonder how they can miss the giant tentacled head that shoots spikes and bubbles you? The tunnel vision is severe with some people. | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
On February 28 2015 21:35 h41fgod wrote: Well, standing at core reduces the effectiveness of locusts, not like that makes him right though. Sometimes I wonder how they can miss the giant tentacled head that shoots spikes and bubbles you? The tunnel vision is severe with some people. Well, I guess for some ppl it's simply their epic awesomness that shoots down ppl so much faster and grants them shields >_< | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On February 28 2015 22:20 [Phantom] wrote: I feel bad for abathur players. Not only does people blame him.for "afk", but those that do know how he plays blame people for choosing him. I had thought about saying to people that they shouldn't play abathur (at least on some maps, which is frankly true, aba is VERY map Dependant). But then I think it would feel bad that people say that I shouldn't play my favorite hero and so I say nothing I would be a lot happier if I could choose maps in quick match. Im mainly playing him now to up my map awareness, which he is perfect for. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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