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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
However I have experienced people complaining that I do not perform well on the stats board and consequently I'm blamed for losses. I figure there are always idiots out there, but at the same time, if BW taught me anything it is that I can always improve, and it is quite likely that being a new player I am doing something wrong - so here I am. I tend to build her something like this: Rangers Mark->Healing ward->Trueshot aura->Starfall (Shadowstalk is probably good in a coordinated party, but so far I only solo que) -> Lunar Blaze -> Ranger or Mark of Mending -> Storm Shield Am I building her completely wrong? It seems to me like a lot of what Tyrande offers is never going to show up on a stats board (except for in the kills column) as she mostly boosts the entire team/provides vision/lockdown. Any insights to the hero would be much appreciated! | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On February 27 2015 19:06 Ghostcom wrote: So I just started playing HotS and as a new player I currently only have access to the rotational heroes. I have played around with all of them getting them to level 5, but Tyrande has been the one providing me with the most fun as she seems to be the one with the most interesting tool-kit and thus I have played her quite a bit more. However I have experienced people complaining that I do not perform well on the stats board and consequently I'm blamed for losses. I figure there are always idiots out there, but at the same time, if BW taught me anything it is that I can always improve, and it is quite likely that being a new player I am doing something wrong - so here I am. I tend to build her something like this: Rangers Mark->Healing ward->Trueshot aura->Starfall (Shadowstalk is probably good in a coordinated party, but so far I only solo que) -> Lunar Blaze -> Ranger or Mark of Mending -> Storm Shield Am I building her completely wrong? It seems to me like a lot of what Tyrande offers is never going to show up on a stats board (except for in the kills column) as she mostly boosts the entire team/provides vision/lockdown. Any insights to the hero would be much appreciated! There are several builds for her, such like owl build, mark+aura+fire arrows build and full support build. Ur build is like everything but nothing in fact. Following certain build is important. The critical talents with her are probably lvl 13 Lunar Blaze and lvl 20 Blink. These two u have to learn no matter what I would say, it gives u additional survivability and helps to stay safe. She's a good pick in 5q hero leagues since u got good team coordinatioan, u many shatter any hero using mark and focusfire from all your teammates. Although playing solo Q u have to decide which tree u goes, what fits more, since u got random team and sometimes with unexpected heros. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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Kupo
Sweden151 Posts
As far as talents go I find Healing Ward to be a must unless you already have a ton of healing on the team, then I guess you can try an auto attack build with searing arrows. Lunar Blaze is really nice but sometimes it can be worth considering Shrink Ray to control one priority target for a long time. Shadowstalk seems quite useless to me unless the other team has two cloak heroes that are giving you problem. Owls should already provide you with the vision you need. The cloak always seems to disappear instantly and it should be impossible to surprise the enemy team with it because they get a warning when you use it. Might help your team in chaotic mine situations but bad players often don't look at the minimap anyway. The level 20 upgrade is actually really nice though because of the extra movement speed, but that's ten levels without a good heroic. Trueshot Aura is standard but sometimes the situation can call for something else like a MULE. Remaining talents are a bit more situational, Pierce + Ranger + Rewind is probably the most fun to play, even more so against bad Abathur players. It's also best for high numbers because you can get so much free damage with the owls. Ranger's Mark is also very nice but then Ranger and Rewind becomes less powerful so you might want to look at alternatives like Shooting Star or Searing Arrows + Huntress Mark if you want to be egoistical. Rewind is always great when the other team has channeled abilities you really need to interrupt. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
Also, she's very flexible character, are u interested in playing her with some specific role? Or u wanna try different builds? | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On February 27 2015 20:03 Ghostcom wrote: I'm not even close to hero league yet - I'm still only playing quick matches. Could you recommend any builds then? Or do you have some VODs I could take a look at to see how good Tyrande-play? Google has provided me with as many different builds as there are combinations of talents and as I'm new to the scene I have no clue who to listen to. Level 1 - Pierce Level 4 - Healing Ward Level 7 - Trueshot Aura Level 10 - Starfall Level 13 - Lunar Blaze Level 16 - Ranger Level 20 - Bolt of the storm This is what i see Tyrande main's use at rank 1. The full-on W-build is not as strong anymore, since healing ward is literally op. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On February 27 2015 20:37 Sponkz wrote: Level 1 - Pierce Level 4 - Healing Ward Level 7 - Trueshot Aura Level 10 - Starfall Level 13 - Lunar Blaze Level 16 - Ranger Level 20 - Bolt of the storm This is what i see Tyrande main's use at rank 1. The full-on W-build is not as strong anymore, since healing ward is literally op. Yeah healing ward is a must, but if you have another defensive support in your team that can pick healing ward then Tyrande going for full offence is great(or at least most of the talents on offence). | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
 Interestingly enough, healing ward is actually one of the talents that I have received flame for taking - good to know that I wasn't completely bonkers. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
On February 27 2015 21:12 Sponkz wrote: Baddies will always find an excuse to flame you. That's why Teamliquid is a safer place to get your information from Sometimes though you have to wonder.... "Are we the baddies?" Ref: + Show Spoiler + In all seriousness, yes, you will get flamed probably no matter what when you lose. I would join channel liquid... and maybe channel reddit and try to find groups to play with instead of just SoloQ. Just be up front that you are pretty new and lots of people will be helpful! | ||
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Kupo
Sweden151 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
Is the channel name Teamliquid? It has seemed rather dead, but I'll try again tonight.It is actually interesting that this game is the first in a long while which has given me the feeling of being a complete n00b - and surprisingly I like that feeling  | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
tier1: pierce/hunter mark - always pick pierce if you wanna get ranger, the "normal" build tier2: healing ward - its OP, if it was not OP searing arrows, empower and protective shield would be good choices. tier3: trueshot aura/battle momentum - trueshot aura is great but try to figure out if it actually helps your team since it buffs only auto attacks, BM is good on her because her cooldowns are a bit long tier4: Starfall - Shadowstalk is a gimmick play, it could work if you play with buddies tier5: lunar blaze/shrink ray - stuns is the reason people play Tyrande in top level, but shrink ray is pretty good. tier6: ranger/huntress fury - see tier 1 tier7: bolt of the storm is the safe choice, but the real power play is rewind, go for it if you feel like you can. Storm shield is also great if your full team is together, but terrible otherwise. But for begginers i would recomend healing ward, owl talents, starfall, lunar blaze and bolt of the storm. That is what i go for, except that i really like rewind. And nothing feels better than hitting those ranger owls, specially if its a snipe | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
On February 28 2015 02:20 Eliezar wrote: By the way, what's the record for hero league spread you guys have had? We had a 10 to 49 range team. I didn't think about it...but I guess the 10 and 49 could have been grouped... I wasn't regularly checking my allies' ranks, but I think I started regularly matching with rank 1's when I was in mid to high 30's. I would guess that low to mid 40's is where it could first start happening "naturally" for a solo queue player if he wins every single game. I didn't win every single early game and I went on a bad losing streak before I really raised my MMR. I think MMR is really volatile when you first start, so if you win every single game then you'll shoot up surprisingly quick. And if you fail to carry games early on, then you'll miss the chance to shoot up while your MMR is volatile, and it'll become a real grind and take a while. The thing is though that anything can happen with matchmaking when queue times hit 6.5 minutes. Like I think matchmaking rating almost gets thrown out, or becomes the lowest priority, when queue time gets there. I would guess that if 10 people were in queue -- and one of them was the highest MMR heroes league player in the world and the 9 others were people queuing for their first heroes league game, then shortly after any one of their queues hit 6.5 minutes, they'd all get put in a game together. | ||
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