On February 15 2015 14:11 ref4 wrote: hey guys, I just want to thank you for paying for the rest of the 90% that doesn't pay in a F2P game, you guys are the best!
sincerely,
one of the 90% that doesn't pay
Haha, I know.
Although when the Vampire Slayer Valla kit was $3 I was like...its $3 that's like 5 minutes of work or something why not?
What do people think of the idea of having an optional league where only players with all heroes unlocked are ranked and where players can get in by paying, say, $30 to unlock all heroes for a season?
I feel like the founders pack is a giant ripoff, In SMITE you can buy a god pack for the same price and you get every god that is out now and will ever be released. While with this founders pack you get 3 heroes and 3 random skins, OH YEAH and BETA acces but honestly that isn't worth 40 bucks.
On February 15 2015 07:55 Godwrath wrote: Then the gold rewards per quests are too low. And i say this, because i don't want to start this discussion all over again. In short, the time required to unlock a hero is too big.
I think I had 11 heros in 6 weeks. Don't forget there are account gold bonuses too.
The account gold bonuses are one time only. For example, there are 34 heroes right now. That's 17k gold, when you get to see all the heroes.
I counted my gold gain in one month of playing since i started. I gained exactly 26k barring the account gold bonuses (because they are pointless if i want to calculate an average income per month), have stimpack, and i had played quite a bit (388 games, yep, 2/3 coop games to lvl up heroes).
You can't get 11 heroes in 6 weeks with that. There are not enough 2k heroes for you to buy
On February 15 2015 11:36 FreeZEternal wrote: Eh.... just buy them with real money. If you cannot spend time or you think your time is more valuable than getting free heroes, just spend some real money.
Once in a while, sure, i already bought arthas and kerrigan that way. But you are mistaken, it's not that you require to invest time, is that you need time to unlock them because of daily quests.
On February 15 2015 07:48 Hryul wrote: you gain gold with quests not through wins/losses. it makes the loss less impactful and it discourages botting/afking.
it also encourages playing 2/3 games to complete a quest and then go do something else because there is no reward.
not to mention it will (at 200g per quest) take 10 days for the cheapst hero (acceptable for sure) to 50 days for a 10k which is not acceptable.
I almost never get a 200 gold quest...300 today, 800 yesterday...
I get them all the time. I was lucky one week, but 200/300 are the norm. Once in a week you get the 800/600.
Did another Quick Tip video on heroes of the Storm yesterday. Video shows how you can customize the hotkeys to selfcast spells. It's unfortunately not possible to do that in the hotkey settings in game, so I recorded a tutorial showing how to pull that off:
On February 15 2015 07:48 Hryul wrote: you gain gold with quests not through wins/losses. it makes the loss less impactful and it discourages botting/afking.
it also encourages playing 2/3 games to complete a quest and then go do something else because there is no reward.
not to mention it will (at 200g per quest) take 10 days for the cheapst hero (acceptable for sure) to 50 days for a 10k which is not acceptable.
I almost never get a 200 gold quest...300 today, 800 yesterday...
I get them all the time. I was lucky one week, but 200/300 are the norm. Once in a week you get the 800/600.
My last 5 quests were: Play 8 games - 800 gold Win 3 games - 600 gold Play 8 games - 800 gold Play 2 games as SC Hero - 200 gold Play 8 games - 800 gold
5 days in a row.
EDIT: hahhahahaha just logged in, 6th day quest is win 3 games in a row - 600 gold. :D :D :D Ok, I have a feeling that this is bugged.
On February 15 2015 07:55 Godwrath wrote: Then the gold rewards per quests are too low. And i say this, because i don't want to start this discussion all over again. In short, the time required to unlock a hero is too big.
I think I had 11 heros in 6 weeks. Don't forget there are account gold bonuses too.
The account gold bonuses are one time only. For example, there are 34 heroes right now. That's 17k gold, when you get to see all the heroes.
I counted my gold gain in one month of playing since i started. I gained exactly 26k barring the account gold bonuses (because they are pointless if i want to calculate an average income per month), have stimpack, and i had played quite a bit (388 games, yep, 2/3 coop games to lvl up heroes).
You can't get 11 heroes in 6 weeks with that. There are not enough 2k heroes for you to buy
On February 15 2015 11:36 FreeZEternal wrote: Eh.... just buy them with real money. If you cannot spend time or you think your time is more valuable than getting free heroes, just spend some real money.
Once in a while, sure, i already bought arthas and kerrigan that way. But you are mistaken, it's not that you require to invest time, is that you need time to unlock them because of daily quests.
You say you don't count the initial gold because you can't get a accutare monthly average, which is true, however when you came to your conslution of "you can't afford 11 heroes in 6 weeks" you shouldn't ignore that maybe he got the 11 heroes with the initial gold rewards.
On February 16 2015 02:16 wishr wrote: I would be glad to see at least 1 tank, 1 assassin and 1 support requirement @ quick match. if que time would not be affected much in that case.
I'm like 90% sure that this used to be the case. We tested it by queuing as 4 with no specialist, and our 5th guy was a specialist 3 times in a row. I also remember in general there being at least one of every role in more games. This wouldn't always be the case if a party queued up with 4 assassins, for example, because then it'd be impossible. But yeah, I hope in the next major patch they make some changes to matchmaking. Ridiculous team comps is one issue.
Personally I seem to get just over a 6 minute queue every time I solo queue. It's like it tries for 6 minutes to find me a good match, and then just gives up and says fuck it, here are some random people to play with. I'd rather it try for only about 2 minutes before giving up and giving me the next best thing.
Compositions seems to have gotten weirder last few days, I've seen three warrior, no warrior and Abathur+Murky. It might be a good idea to try auto select hero. The five times I've done it I have gotten balanced compositions and won all five games.
On February 16 2015 02:16 wishr wrote: I would be glad to see at least 1 tank, 1 assassin and 1 support requirement @ quick match. if que time would not be affected much in that case.
I'm like 90% sure that this used to be the case. We tested it by queuing as 4 with no specialist, and our 5th guy was a specialist 3 times in a row. I also remember in general there being at least one of every role in more games. This wouldn't always be the case if a party queued up with 4 assassins, for example, because then it'd be impossible. But yeah, I hope in the next major patch they make some changes to matchmaking. Ridiculous team comps is one issue.
Personally I seem to get just over a 6 minute queue every time I solo queue. It's like it tries for 6 minutes to find me a good match, and then just gives up and says fuck it, here are some random people to play with. I'd rather it try for only about 2 minutes before giving up and giving me the next best thing.
I get the 6minute treatment too and it is very harsh. Basically I don't get a single meaningful game by solo-queuing anymore.... I wait 6minutes then get matched with people who have no clue what the hell they're doing (but think they know better) and we get destroyed in 20minutes because the matchmaking tries to "even things out" but I'm pretty sure 5 decent players will always beat 1 good +4 baddies. Looks like I will have to find a team or just wait till there are more people treating hero league games like real competition.
On February 16 2015 02:16 wishr wrote: I would be glad to see at least 1 tank, 1 assassin and 1 support requirement @ quick match. if que time would not be affected much in that case.
I'm like 90% sure that this used to be the case. We tested it by queuing as 4 with no specialist, and our 5th guy was a specialist 3 times in a row. I also remember in general there being at least one of every role in more games. This wouldn't always be the case if a party queued up with 4 assassins, for example, because then it'd be impossible. But yeah, I hope in the next major patch they make some changes to matchmaking. Ridiculous team comps is one issue.
Personally I seem to get just over a 6 minute queue every time I solo queue. It's like it tries for 6 minutes to find me a good match, and then just gives up and says fuck it, here are some random people to play with. I'd rather it try for only about 2 minutes before giving up and giving me the next best thing.
I get the 6minute treatment too and it is very harsh. Basically I don't get a single meaningful game by solo-queuing anymore.... I wait 6minutes then get matched with people who have no clue what the hell they're doing (but think they know better) and we get destroyed in 20minutes because the matchmaking tries to "even things out" but I'm pretty sure 5 decent players will always beat 1 good +4 baddies. Looks like I will have to find a team or just wait till there are more people treating hero league games like real competition.
Yeah, this has been my experience, too. I keep playing because I'm a glutton for punishment, and I keep hoping that I am just unlucky with the matchmaker. But I have been through a large enough sample size to know otherwise.
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