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Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 15 2015 05:45 GMT
#6721
On February 15 2015 14:11 ref4 wrote:
hey guys, I just want to thank you for paying for the rest of the 90% that doesn't pay in a F2P game, you guys are the best!

sincerely,

one of the 90% that doesn't pay



Haha, I know.

Although when the Vampire Slayer Valla kit was $3 I was like...its $3 that's like 5 minutes of work or something why not?

And still didn't....
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
February 15 2015 06:42 GMT
#6722
I'll spend upwards of 40$ drinking in a weekend, I can justify spending 10$ for a hero haha.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 08:19:06
February 15 2015 08:15 GMT
#6723
What do people think of the idea of having an optional league where only players with all heroes unlocked are ranked and where players can get in by paying, say, $30 to unlock all heroes for a season?

Poll: Good idea or bad idea?

Bad idea (22)
 
88%

Good idea (3)
 
12%

25 total votes

Your vote: Good idea or bad idea?

(Vote): Good idea
(Vote): Bad idea

SCguineapig
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Netherlands289 Posts
February 15 2015 08:23 GMT
#6724
I feel like the founders pack is a giant ripoff, In SMITE you can buy a god pack for the same price and you get every god that is out now and will ever be released. While with this founders pack you get 3 heroes and 3 random skins, OH YEAH and BETA acces but honestly that isn't worth 40 bucks.
broodwar wasn't perfect
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 09:02:27
February 15 2015 08:58 GMT
#6725
On February 15 2015 11:23 Eliezar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:55 Godwrath wrote:
Then the gold rewards per quests are too low. And i say this, because i don't want to start this discussion all over again. In short, the time required to unlock a hero is too big.


I think I had 11 heros in 6 weeks. Don't forget there are account gold bonuses too.

The account gold bonuses are one time only. For example, there are 34 heroes right now. That's 17k gold, when you get to see all the heroes.

I counted my gold gain in one month of playing since i started. I gained exactly 26k barring the account gold bonuses (because they are pointless if i want to calculate an average income per month), have stimpack, and i had played quite a bit (388 games, yep, 2/3 coop games to lvl up heroes).

You can't get 11 heroes in 6 weeks with that. There are not enough 2k heroes for you to buy

On February 15 2015 11:36 FreeZEternal wrote:
Eh.... just buy them with real money. If you cannot spend time or you think your time is more valuable than getting free heroes, just spend some real money.


Once in a while, sure, i already bought arthas and kerrigan that way. But you are mistaken, it's not that you require to invest time, is that you need time to unlock them because of daily quests.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
February 15 2015 09:01 GMT
#6726
On February 15 2015 11:26 Eliezar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:55 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:48 Hryul wrote:
you gain gold with quests not through wins/losses. it makes the loss less impactful and it discourages botting/afking.

it also encourages playing 2/3 games to complete a quest and then go do something else because there is no reward.

not to mention it will (at 200g per quest) take 10 days for the cheapst hero (acceptable for sure) to 50 days for a 10k which is not acceptable.


I almost never get a 200 gold quest...300 today, 800 yesterday...

I get them all the time. I was lucky one week, but 200/300 are the norm. Once in a week you get the 800/600.
Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
February 15 2015 11:32 GMT
#6727
Did another Quick Tip video on heroes of the Storm yesterday. Video shows how you can customize the hotkeys to selfcast spells. It's unfortunately not possible to do that in the hotkey settings in game, so I recorded a tutorial showing how to pull that off:



Hope it helps
Tutorials, Quick Tips and Guides: www.YouTube.com/KhaldorTV
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
February 15 2015 12:08 GMT
#6728
Much appreciated Khaldor. I had been wondering about it, since ALT modifier is completely alien for me (i prefer shift for this kind of stuff).
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 12:23:53
February 15 2015 12:21 GMT
#6729
On February 15 2015 18:01 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 11:26 Eliezar wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:55 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:48 Hryul wrote:
you gain gold with quests not through wins/losses. it makes the loss less impactful and it discourages botting/afking.

it also encourages playing 2/3 games to complete a quest and then go do something else because there is no reward.

not to mention it will (at 200g per quest) take 10 days for the cheapst hero (acceptable for sure) to 50 days for a 10k which is not acceptable.


I almost never get a 200 gold quest...300 today, 800 yesterday...

I get them all the time. I was lucky one week, but 200/300 are the norm. Once in a week you get the 800/600.

My last 5 quests were:
Play 8 games - 800 gold
Win 3 games - 600 gold
Play 8 games - 800 gold
Play 2 games as SC Hero - 200 gold
Play 8 games - 800 gold

5 days in a row.

EDIT: hahhahahaha just logged in, 6th day quest is win 3 games in a row - 600 gold. :D :D :D
Ok, I have a feeling that this is bugged.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 12:36:07
February 15 2015 12:35 GMT
#6730
Fuck you. That's all i can say haha. My last week has been

200, 300, 200, 200, 300, 300, 800, 200.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 15 2015 12:43 GMT
#6731
My friend have told me that he knows a guy who constantly gets like 800, 800, 800 in a row, and I was like "huh, lucky guy", and then this. ROFL
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 15 2015 16:26 GMT
#6732
On February 15 2015 17:58 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 11:23 Eliezar wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:55 Godwrath wrote:
Then the gold rewards per quests are too low. And i say this, because i don't want to start this discussion all over again. In short, the time required to unlock a hero is too big.


I think I had 11 heros in 6 weeks. Don't forget there are account gold bonuses too.

The account gold bonuses are one time only. For example, there are 34 heroes right now. That's 17k gold, when you get to see all the heroes.

I counted my gold gain in one month of playing since i started. I gained exactly 26k barring the account gold bonuses (because they are pointless if i want to calculate an average income per month), have stimpack, and i had played quite a bit (388 games, yep, 2/3 coop games to lvl up heroes).

You can't get 11 heroes in 6 weeks with that. There are not enough 2k heroes for you to buy

Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 11:36 FreeZEternal wrote:
Eh.... just buy them with real money. If you cannot spend time or you think your time is more valuable than getting free heroes, just spend some real money.


Once in a while, sure, i already bought arthas and kerrigan that way. But you are mistaken, it's not that you require to invest time, is that you need time to unlock them because of daily quests.


You say you don't count the initial gold because you can't get a accutare monthly average, which is true, however when you came to your conslution of "you can't afford 11 heroes in 6 weeks" you shouldn't ignore that maybe he got the 11 heroes with the initial gold rewards.

Also, thanks khaldor.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
February 15 2015 17:16 GMT
#6733
I would be glad to see at least 1 tank, 1 assassin and 1 support requirement @ quick match. if que time would not be affected much in that case.
* Only girls complain about balance! *
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 15 2015 17:36 GMT
#6734
On February 16 2015 02:16 wishr wrote:
I would be glad to see at least 1 tank, 1 assassin and 1 support requirement @ quick match. if que time would not be affected much in that case.

I'm like 90% sure that this used to be the case. We tested it by queuing as 4 with no specialist, and our 5th guy was a specialist 3 times in a row. I also remember in general there being at least one of every role in more games. This wouldn't always be the case if a party queued up with 4 assassins, for example, because then it'd be impossible. But yeah, I hope in the next major patch they make some changes to matchmaking. Ridiculous team comps is one issue.

Personally I seem to get just over a 6 minute queue every time I solo queue. It's like it tries for 6 minutes to find me a good match, and then just gives up and says fuck it, here are some random people to play with. I'd rather it try for only about 2 minutes before giving up and giving me the next best thing.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Kupo
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden151 Posts
February 15 2015 17:41 GMT
#6735
Compositions seems to have gotten weirder last few days, I've seen three warrior, no warrior and Abathur+Murky. It might be a good idea to try auto select hero. The five times I've done it I have gotten balanced compositions and won all five games.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
February 15 2015 17:49 GMT
#6736
This game feels slow, clunky and way too zoomed in? I've been trying to play it on and off but it lacks precision in my opinion.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 15 2015 18:48 GMT
#6737
On February 16 2015 02:36 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 02:16 wishr wrote:
I would be glad to see at least 1 tank, 1 assassin and 1 support requirement @ quick match. if que time would not be affected much in that case.

I'm like 90% sure that this used to be the case. We tested it by queuing as 4 with no specialist, and our 5th guy was a specialist 3 times in a row. I also remember in general there being at least one of every role in more games. This wouldn't always be the case if a party queued up with 4 assassins, for example, because then it'd be impossible. But yeah, I hope in the next major patch they make some changes to matchmaking. Ridiculous team comps is one issue.

Personally I seem to get just over a 6 minute queue every time I solo queue. It's like it tries for 6 minutes to find me a good match, and then just gives up and says fuck it, here are some random people to play with. I'd rather it try for only about 2 minutes before giving up and giving me the next best thing.


I get the 6minute treatment too and it is very harsh. Basically I don't get a single meaningful game by solo-queuing anymore.... I wait 6minutes then get matched with people who have no clue what the hell they're doing (but think they know better) and we get destroyed in 20minutes because the matchmaking tries to "even things out" but I'm pretty sure 5 decent players will always beat 1 good +4 baddies. Looks like I will have to find a team or just wait till there are more people treating hero league games like real competition.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
February 15 2015 19:10 GMT
#6738
do u mind linking your hotslogs profile RouaF? :D
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 15 2015 19:27 GMT
#6739
On February 16 2015 03:48 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 02:36 NonY wrote:
On February 16 2015 02:16 wishr wrote:
I would be glad to see at least 1 tank, 1 assassin and 1 support requirement @ quick match. if que time would not be affected much in that case.

I'm like 90% sure that this used to be the case. We tested it by queuing as 4 with no specialist, and our 5th guy was a specialist 3 times in a row. I also remember in general there being at least one of every role in more games. This wouldn't always be the case if a party queued up with 4 assassins, for example, because then it'd be impossible. But yeah, I hope in the next major patch they make some changes to matchmaking. Ridiculous team comps is one issue.

Personally I seem to get just over a 6 minute queue every time I solo queue. It's like it tries for 6 minutes to find me a good match, and then just gives up and says fuck it, here are some random people to play with. I'd rather it try for only about 2 minutes before giving up and giving me the next best thing.


I get the 6minute treatment too and it is very harsh. Basically I don't get a single meaningful game by solo-queuing anymore.... I wait 6minutes then get matched with people who have no clue what the hell they're doing (but think they know better) and we get destroyed in 20minutes because the matchmaking tries to "even things out" but I'm pretty sure 5 decent players will always beat 1 good +4 baddies. Looks like I will have to find a team or just wait till there are more people treating hero league games like real competition.

Yeah, this has been my experience, too. I keep playing because I'm a glutton for punishment, and I keep hoping that I am just unlucky with the matchmaker. But I have been through a large enough sample size to know otherwise.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
February 15 2015 20:13 GMT
#6740
Not sure if horrible Illidan or masterplan by Eric.

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