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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2015 18:03 GMT
#6661
On February 15 2015 00:49 KadaverBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 22:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I just played my first 3 matches and I have to say I like this game already :D But sad thing is that I have lost all 3 matches but positive thing is that I was the best player in our team (by stats)


Wow you didnt even have a key? you should have said something^^

I said several times in this thread....
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2015 18:06 GMT
#6662
btw, am I fucking stupid or you really cant click friendly, enemy or neutral units? I would like to see their abilities cooldown and hp.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 14 2015 18:10 GMT
#6663
On February 15 2015 03:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
btw, am I fucking stupid or you really cant click friendly, enemy or neutral units? I would like to see their abilities cooldown and hp.


You cannot select other units.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2015 18:11 GMT
#6664
On February 15 2015 03:10 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 03:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
btw, am I fucking stupid or you really cant click friendly, enemy or neutral units? I would like to see their abilities cooldown and hp.


You cannot select other units.

That is really stupid. Really
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
February 14 2015 18:18 GMT
#6665
On February 15 2015 03:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:49 KadaverBB wrote:
On February 14 2015 22:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I just played my first 3 matches and I have to say I like this game already :D But sad thing is that I have lost all 3 matches but positive thing is that I was the best player in our team (by stats)


Wow you didnt even have a key? you should have said something^^

I said several times in this thread....


just out of curiosity, is there any way to get into the game right now without paying? Blizzard never gave me keys for anything even though I applied for 4 betas and I couldn't find other sources of keys. I don't want to beg for keys, but if people are surprised that there are still people without a key then there surely must be a surplus of beta keys right?
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 14 2015 18:18 GMT
#6666
On February 14 2015 22:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I just played my first 3 matches and I have to say I like this game already :D But sad thing is that I have lost all 3 matches but positive thing is that I was the best player in our team (by stats)

Get used to this. Blizzard's matchmaker is bad.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
February 14 2015 18:21 GMT
#6667
On February 15 2015 03:18 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 03:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:49 KadaverBB wrote:
On February 14 2015 22:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I just played my first 3 matches and I have to say I like this game already :D But sad thing is that I have lost all 3 matches but positive thing is that I was the best player in our team (by stats)


Wow you didnt even have a key? you should have said something^^

I said several times in this thread....


just out of curiosity, is there any way to get into the game right now without paying? Blizzard never gave me keys for anything even though I applied for 4 betas and I couldn't find other sources of keys. I don't want to beg for keys, but if people are surprised that there are still people without a key then there surely must be a surplus of beta keys right?


There are a lot of giveaways going on at the moment, and Blizzard is still giving out keys (check your bnet account btw, might not get an email).
The HotS subreddit is good place to find giveaways. Good luck ^^
We know nothing.
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 18:32:07
February 14 2015 18:31 GMT
#6668
On February 15 2015 03:21 Amestir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 03:18 Fi0na wrote:
On February 15 2015 03:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:49 KadaverBB wrote:
On February 14 2015 22:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I just played my first 3 matches and I have to say I like this game already :D But sad thing is that I have lost all 3 matches but positive thing is that I was the best player in our team (by stats)


Wow you didnt even have a key? you should have said something^^

I said several times in this thread....


just out of curiosity, is there any way to get into the game right now without paying? Blizzard never gave me keys for anything even though I applied for 4 betas and I couldn't find other sources of keys. I don't want to beg for keys, but if people are surprised that there are still people without a key then there surely must be a surplus of beta keys right?


There are a lot of giveaways going on at the moment, and Blizzard is still giving out keys (check your bnet account btw, might not get an email).
The HotS subreddit is good place to find giveaways. Good luck ^^


NO WAY! I actually got a key from blizzard (after never getting into SC2 / heart of the swarm / hearthstone beta even though i applied for each one the first week). Thanks a lot
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 14 2015 18:38 GMT
#6669
why does it says you have 0 post lol?

Now i get what you mean with the more "depth", and yes, i find it strange that there arent even simple modifiers like armor, or things like "heavy/armored" etc, like in sc2.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 18:51:06
February 14 2015 18:50 GMT
#6670
On February 15 2015 03:38 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
why does it says you have 0 post lol?

Now i get what you mean with the more "depth", and yes, i find it strange that there arent even simple modifiers like armor, or things like "heavy/armored" etc, like in sc2.

He is posting from LiquidHearth.net ( I think). If you are visiting from Teamliquid.net, it shows how much posts he has in teamliquid.net.

Check this:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/games/432609-heroes-of-the-storm-blizzard-all-stars-announced?page=334#6668
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
February 14 2015 18:57 GMT
#6671
On February 15 2015 03:31 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 03:21 Amestir wrote:
On February 15 2015 03:18 Fi0na wrote:
On February 15 2015 03:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:49 KadaverBB wrote:
On February 14 2015 22:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I just played my first 3 matches and I have to say I like this game already :D But sad thing is that I have lost all 3 matches but positive thing is that I was the best player in our team (by stats)


Wow you didnt even have a key? you should have said something^^

I said several times in this thread....


just out of curiosity, is there any way to get into the game right now without paying? Blizzard never gave me keys for anything even though I applied for 4 betas and I couldn't find other sources of keys. I don't want to beg for keys, but if people are surprised that there are still people without a key then there surely must be a surplus of beta keys right?


There are a lot of giveaways going on at the moment, and Blizzard is still giving out keys (check your bnet account btw, might not get an email).
The HotS subreddit is good place to find giveaways. Good luck ^^


NO WAY! I actually got a key from blizzard (after never getting into SC2 / heart of the swarm / hearthstone beta even though i applied for each one the first week). Thanks a lot


Happy for you! Feel free to add me if you want someone to play with on EU!

Amestir#2390
We know nothing.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 14 2015 18:58 GMT
#6672
On February 15 2015 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 03:10 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 15 2015 03:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
btw, am I fucking stupid or you really cant click friendly, enemy or neutral units? I would like to see their abilities cooldown and hp.


You cannot select other units.

That is really stupid. Really

It is, but it will probably be available in the future. Maybe not to select other units, but at least seeing ability cooldown of your friends would be good.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 19:04:00
February 14 2015 19:03 GMT
#6673
On February 15 2015 03:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On February 15 2015 03:10 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 15 2015 03:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
btw, am I fucking stupid or you really cant click friendly, enemy or neutral units? I would like to see their abilities cooldown and hp.


You cannot select other units.

That is really stupid. Really

It is, but it will probably be available in the future. Maybe not to select other units, but at least seeing ability cooldown of your friends would be good.


You can check the ultimate cooldowns in the talent scoreboard.

On February 15 2015 03:38 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
why does it says you have 0 post lol?

Now i get what you mean with the more "depth", and yes, i find it strange that there arent even simple modifiers like armor, or things like "heavy/armored" etc, like in sc2.


Armor types or values are pointless when there are no items.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 19:05:53
February 14 2015 19:04 GMT
#6674
I actually prefer the lack of armor, magic resist, etc. First it makes AD/Skills equal, so HP and their skills are the only defining factor for tanks, so it's not really a trouble. Second it is for clarity, if my tooltip says i do 300 damage, i do 300 fucking damage. Sure, i can run the numbers on my head no problems, but is it really needed design wise ?

It may hurt variety in the short run, but talents, the new they create and how they shuffle existing ones between heroes should suffice in my opinion, and that way your game is much more clear about what your character's has for you to choose what you need.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 14 2015 19:20 GMT
#6675
I really do not miss the complexities of damage mitigation from LoL and DOTA. I also do not miss items and farming.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2015 19:23 GMT
#6676
How much minions have hp?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 19:31:15
February 14 2015 19:30 GMT
#6677
My point is it hurts diversity, for example, warriors can only be tanky by having a super big healthpool, or by healing faster than they can damage them for a short period of time. If there were tanks with armor for example, you could have other types on tankiness, and warriors withouth big healthpools wouldn't necessarily be left behind on the meta. There could be tanks good agaisn't AA comp, and tanks good against heavy comps, or vs "mage types".

Also, i would argue that armor is in no way more complicated for casuals than what whe have right now "when recieving ability damage, the next ability does 50}% less damage) and the first autoatack is reduced by certain porcent, and maybe we know they don't stack multiplicative, but for a casual, how is that more intuitive than "i usually do 200 damage, but he is a tank with 50 armor so i do 150 damage" which is the way armor works on sc2.


WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 14 2015 19:31 GMT
#6678
On February 15 2015 04:04 Godwrath wrote:
I actually prefer the lack of armor, magic resist, etc. First it makes AD/Skills equal, so HP and their skills are the only defining factor for tanks, so it's not really a trouble. Second it is for clarity, if my tooltip says i do 300 damage, i do 300 fucking damage. Sure, i can run the numbers on my head no problems, but is it really needed design wise ?


It makes for some variety.

Lets say you have physical and magic damage. You could have stuff like a magic tank that is not so good vs physical, or the opposite or the traditional average. It could also become options in talents, going for more damage on physical abilities or magical spells.


It is kinda nice. but that's not the way Blizzard wants the game, they want the game as much straight forward as possible.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 19:50:17
February 14 2015 19:34 GMT
#6679
On February 15 2015 04:30 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
My point is it hurts diversity, for example, warriors can only be tanky by having a super big healthpool, or by healing faster than they can damage them for a short period of time. If there were tanks with armor for example, you could have other types on tankiness, and warriors withouth big healthpools wouldn't necessarily be left behind on the meta. There could be tanks good agaisn't AA comp, and tanks good against heavy comps, or vs "mage types".

Also, i would argue that armor is in no way more complicated for casuals than what whe have right now "when recieving ability damage, the next ability does 50}% less damage) and the first autoatack is reduced by certain porcent, and maybe we know they don't stack multiplicative, but for a casual, how is that more intuitive than "i usually do 200 damage, but he is a tank with 50 armor so i do 150 damage" which is the way armor works on sc2.




Except the tank with mitigation and smaller health pool is just straight up better because healers exist. Maybe not if you do absorption armor, but then he likely straight up worse and nobody plays him. Obviously depends on the numbers as well, but that is very hard to balance.

On February 15 2015 04:31 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:04 Godwrath wrote:
I actually prefer the lack of armor, magic resist, etc. First it makes AD/Skills equal, so HP and their skills are the only defining factor for tanks, so it's not really a trouble. Second it is for clarity, if my tooltip says i do 300 damage, i do 300 fucking damage. Sure, i can run the numbers on my head no problems, but is it really needed design wise ?


It makes for some variety.

Lets say you have physical and magic damage. You could have stuff like a magic tank that is not so good vs physical, or the opposite or the traditional average. It could also become options in talents, going for more damage on physical abilities or magical spells.


It is kinda nice. but that's not the way Blizzard wants the game, they want the game as much straight forward as possible.


There are already talents that differentiate between abilities and attacks which is essentially the same thing as physical/magical damage types. Adding another layer doesn't improve the game at all imo.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
February 14 2015 19:49 GMT
#6680
Heroes league come on ! One more hero :D
Is hero league really a big step when coming from custom games in terms of skill ?

Also the latest patch is very cool visually, been playing since alfa and blizzard has really done a good work UI wise.
RIP MKP
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