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On February 13 2015 11:51 Tenks wrote:
I'm watching the VOD of Town Hall Heroes and it frustrates me how closed minded the "pro" NA players are in every interview I hear. Whenever confronted with "What about building like this on this map with this comp?" Nooooo that would never work. EU is such a more enjoyable scene to watch than NA. They seem to have a deeper competency with heroes and they have a more open mind when it comes to trying out certain heroes and builds. NA may have Tempo but I'd love to see an EU vs NA. Because I suspect EU would absolutely wreck.
A lot of the pros in the NA Heroes scene don't strike me as real pros. They get to be called pros because they're the best players and because major teams are picking them up... But their habits and attitudes don't resemble those of the pros in other games and scenes.
The real tragedy here is that Blizzard reads and posts on reddit. I mean I guess good ideas can pop up anywhere but you really gotta question how much shit a person can wade through without allowing any of it to brush off.
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On February 14 2015 00:06 NonY wrote:
The real tragedy here is that Blizzard reads and posts on reddit. I mean I guess good ideas can pop up anywhere but you really gotta question how much shit a person can wade through without allowing any of it to brush off.
In fairness, I'm not sure that the battle.net forums are any better than Reddit. I get the sense that Blizzard kinda does its own thing anyway.
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What's up with all the illidans lately. The Hunt, really? Freaking nobody is roaming after lvl 10, what's the point.
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On February 14 2015 01:25 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's up with all the illidans lately. The Hunt, really? Freaking nobody is roaming after lvl 10, what's the point.
Blame the influx of fresh off the boat beta newbs. They'll figure it out eventually. In the meantime, the pool of bad Illidans has greatly expanded. That said, I actually won a game with an Illidan on my team for the first time in who knows how long last night. I was Hammer, who is quickly becoming my favorite ranged *cough* assassin *cough* specialist.
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The hunt to stop the Vikings from being everywhere ! So fun before 20 when a single Viking can beat up an opponent if you have been laning properly. But they are tough to play x.x
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On February 14 2015 02:05 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 01:25 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's up with all the illidans lately. The Hunt, really? Freaking nobody is roaming after lvl 10, what's the point. Blame the influx of fresh off the boat beta newbs. They'll figure it out eventually. In the meantime, the pool of bad Illidans has greatly expanded. That said, I actually won a game with an Illidan on my team for the first time in who knows how long last night. I was Hammer, who is quickly becoming my favorite ranged *cough* assassin *cough* specialist.
I love hammer but I greatly dislike playing against hammer. I've been going full on auto attack and range build with her and it is absolutely disgusting. Hitting for like 600 from 5x the opponent's attack range with full graduating range up.
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On February 14 2015 02:46 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 02:05 xDaunt wrote:On February 14 2015 01:25 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's up with all the illidans lately. The Hunt, really? Freaking nobody is roaming after lvl 10, what's the point. Blame the influx of fresh off the boat beta newbs. They'll figure it out eventually. In the meantime, the pool of bad Illidans has greatly expanded. That said, I actually won a game with an Illidan on my team for the first time in who knows how long last night. I was Hammer, who is quickly becoming my favorite ranged *cough* assassin *cough* specialist. I love hammer but I greatly dislike playing against hammer. I've been going full on auto attack and range build with her and it is absolutely disgusting. Hitting for like 600 from 5x the opponent's attack range with full graduating range up.
You hit FAST too at 20. I told my friend, I'm not 100% sure Hammer isn't OP. I hope she's not, truly, but holy shit she feels powerful.
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On February 14 2015 02:59 Garsecg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2015 02:46 Tenks wrote:On February 14 2015 02:05 xDaunt wrote:On February 14 2015 01:25 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's up with all the illidans lately. The Hunt, really? Freaking nobody is roaming after lvl 10, what's the point. Blame the influx of fresh off the boat beta newbs. They'll figure it out eventually. In the meantime, the pool of bad Illidans has greatly expanded. That said, I actually won a game with an Illidan on my team for the first time in who knows how long last night. I was Hammer, who is quickly becoming my favorite ranged *cough* assassin *cough* specialist. I love hammer but I greatly dislike playing against hammer. I've been going full on auto attack and range build with her and it is absolutely disgusting. Hitting for like 600 from 5x the opponent's attack range with full graduating range up. You hit FAST too at 20. I told my friend, I'm not 100% sure Hammer isn't OP. I hope she's not, truly, but holy shit she feels powerful.
At level 20 with all of the range talent upgrades, she is absolutely OP. She mows down everything. All you need is a couple supports to keep her healed.
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Hammer was very good last patch too. She's my go to dps when valla is already picked (aka : all the time). I think illidan is going to be firstpick/ban this patch, almost everyone was nerfed and he was already a good pick in competitive.
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just got beta. any good places to find info? (for someone with very basic dota/lol knowledge)
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On February 14 2015 00:06 NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2015 11:51 Tenks wrote:
I'm watching the VOD of Town Hall Heroes and it frustrates me how closed minded the "pro" NA players are in every interview I hear. Whenever confronted with "What about building like this on this map with this comp?" Nooooo that would never work. EU is such a more enjoyable scene to watch than NA. They seem to have a deeper competency with heroes and they have a more open mind when it comes to trying out certain heroes and builds. NA may have Tempo but I'd love to see an EU vs NA. Because I suspect EU would absolutely wreck. A lot of the pros in the NA Heroes scene don't strike me as real pros. They get to be called pros because they're the best players and because major teams are picking them up... But their habits and attitudes don't resemble those of the pros in other games and scenes.
Who are the pros on Town Hall Heroes anyways? Isn't it just a bunch of casters + Shamtoo (what would you classify him as anyways?) I mean sure Zoia likes to repeat what other 'pros' have told him, but I suspect he doesn't fully represent their views, especially when challenged he tends to just double down rather than explain any reasoning.
BTW, Idra playing Lost Vikings on Erho's stream if you want to see how it does in an RTS player's hands lol.
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Lz generally plays vikings in EGs matches. ZP said Idra doesn't care for them. I suppose sc2 Terran probably is more like Vikings than sc2 Zerg.
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Let's talk Abathur for a moment. I tend to think that he's going to be rediscovered sooner rather than later. First off, evolve monstrosity is just hot garbage and should be avoided. Ultimate evolution is still the better ult. Even without the ability to use ults on your clone, it still is good. Just grab a DPS hero and go to town. If you die, you're still in the fight because you can put a hat on someone (2 hats if you go for hivemind). And he still is a monster of a split pusher. I think that the siege roaches are probably better than the exploding ones now. Thoughts?
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I LOVE my Vikings! xD
I haven't figured out what's the best way to play them (all split up? 2/1 splits?), but given the fact that I almost exclusively win right now, I can't do TOO poorly, I guess. xD
Having all the Vikings split up to cover all lanes is really annoying if there's a Nova/Zeratul on the other side. I'm really falling apart in these scenarios and my poor vikings just die left and right.
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On February 14 2015 04:33 y0su wrote:
just got beta. any good places to find info? (for someone with very basic dota/lol knowledge)
http://www.heroesfire.com/
This is a solid site where you can get info about all of the heroes and there are quite a lot of guides. I read it on daily basis, it is pretty fun.
On February 14 2015 06:15 Tenks wrote:
Lz generally plays vikings in EGs matches. ZP said Idra doesn't care for them. I suppose sc2 Terran probably is more like Vikings than sc2 Zerg.
Is there any video with LZ playing the Vikings? I would love to see it, but I can't find any.
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On February 14 2015 08:11 xDaunt wrote:
Let's talk Abathur for a moment. I tend to think that he's going to be rediscovered sooner rather than later. First off, evolve monstrosity is just hot garbage and should be avoided. Ultimate evolution is still the better ult. Even without the ability to use ults on your clone, it still is good. Just grab a DPS hero and go to town. If you die, you're still in the fight because you can put a hat on someone (2 hats if you go for hivemind). And he still is a monster of a split pusher. I think that the siege roaches are probably better than the exploding ones now. Thoughts?
I was having an absolute blast playing regen chen with an Abathur earlier. Abathur and Chen complement each other so well. Chen can soak the damage, abathur can get the siege roaches. Abathur, with proper timing, can shield chen if he gets stunned or between fortifying brews. Further, even though Chen can sneak in cooldowns between drinks, Abathur makes standing around Chen even more of a liability.
Better than other combos? I dunno. But regen Chen with Abathur is really, really fun.
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I hope that there just isn't the population playing...Hero league games with players spread over 22 levels are not fun for anybody.
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On February 14 2015 00:06 NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2015 11:51 Tenks wrote:
I'm watching the VOD of Town Hall Heroes and it frustrates me how closed minded the "pro" NA players are in every interview I hear. Whenever confronted with "What about building like this on this map with this comp?" Nooooo that would never work. EU is such a more enjoyable scene to watch than NA. They seem to have a deeper competency with heroes and they have a more open mind when it comes to trying out certain heroes and builds. NA may have Tempo but I'd love to see an EU vs NA. Because I suspect EU would absolutely wreck. A lot of the pros in the NA Heroes scene don't strike me as real pros. They get to be called pros because they're the best players and because major teams are picking them up... But their habits and attitudes don't resemble those of the pros in other games and scenes. The real tragedy here is that Blizzard reads and posts on reddit. I mean I guess good ideas can pop up anywhere but you really gotta question how much shit a person can wade through without allowing any of it to brush off.
Blizzard is a huge company, probably just a random dude that spread it via email or something.
Regardless, i'd say reddit heroes subforum is probably better than the bnet forums as far as content and feedback.
Not sure if you were pointing to reddit as a whole or just the subforum. The way I see it is like this analogy, "All black people are bad." which obviously isn't true. So anyone who says "reddit is trash" is just ignorant to the parts of reddit that aren't trash. And if you have an account you can customize your front page to whatever subs you subscribe to, and make multi-reddit tabs based on grouping specific related topics. Such as the various art subreddits, movie reddits, etc.
There are some decent subforums on reddit. The mainstream ones are trash, and even within those there are some good posts/posters. Just like anything. I mean TL in it's current state is about the same as reddit. Arguably worse.
The starcarft subreddit is probably one of the worst as far as bandwagons and bullshit go. Right up there with askwomen, hiphopheads, relationships, redpill etc.
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Anyway, I'm Rank 14 now been playing since about November. I'm pretty balling with Reghar, Valla, and ETC.
Also can play some Stitches, Raynor, Nazeebo and some other shitheads.
If anyone wants to play; SpoR#1461 I got skype and all those other programs. Gets boring solo queueing all the time.
https://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=771304
(My friend plays on my account so the stats are only partially accurate imho)
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You guys think this is going to pick up a real solid scene? It seems to be growing really slow now that beta is filling up when you judge it based on twitch/streaming.
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