EPTI'm also interested in setting up some nice synergy with a hero taking Executioner (and searing attacks and giant killer) and eventually Nexus Frenzy as mentioned above and then comboing it with a hero that has a ton of slows/roots/stuns. Something like Jaina + Tychus or Jaina + Valla would probably destroy any comp that was heavy on tanks and healers, or any comp that can't get to the back line. Or maybe Rehgar? Earthbind + Bloodlust jeeeeesus. Or earthbind + heals if you want to play it safe. Not sure it'd be a competitive tactic but it sure would be fun to blow some people up in pub games.
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NonY
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I'm also interested in setting up some nice synergy with a hero taking Executioner (and searing attacks and giant killer) and eventually Nexus Frenzy as mentioned above and then comboing it with a hero that has a ton of slows/roots/stuns. Something like Jaina + Tychus or Jaina + Valla would probably destroy any comp that was heavy on tanks and healers, or any comp that can't get to the back line. Or maybe Rehgar? Earthbind + Bloodlust jeeeeesus. Or earthbind + heals if you want to play it safe. Not sure it'd be a competitive tactic but it sure would be fun to blow some people up in pub games. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 13 2015 04:19 NonY wrote: I am curious about taking AE damage talent for W and then using Void Prison to set up a wombo combo. I mean VP could always be used to set up a combo but Zeratul could never contribute much to it himself. 2 bombs and a cleave might not be enough, especially when it means skipping Gathering Power, but 4 bombs and 2 cleaves is a ton of AE damage. It would probably be preferable to assassinating someone in some situations. I'm also interested in setting up some nice synergy with a hero taking Executioner (and searing attacks and giant killer) and eventually Nexus Frenzy as mentioned above and then comboing it with a hero that has a ton of slows/roots/stuns. Something like Jaina + Tychus or Jaina + Valla would probably destroy any comp that was heavy on tanks and healers, or any comp that can't get to the back line. With regards to Zeratul, I bet you could land 2 or 3 bombs, but I don't know about 4. There's not enough time to get the fourth off (and maybe not the third) before the first bomb explodes. That's also a really nasty set of key strokes you have to enter properly to make it work. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10116 Posts
I don't really like auto attacks on zeratul. Yes, he can stick to a target, but why stay in melee range when you can just blink in, deal a bunch of damage, and blink out. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Nevermind there was a filter on screwing the list up. If you only see one region click the green arrow dropdown beside region and select both EU and NA (or just one if you want to filter by that region). You can tell a filter is on because the row numbers will not be in sequence. Ah! Thank you! I figured it would turn out to be something simple but I couldn't figure it out myself. | ||
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RouaF
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Godwrath
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
It's fucking retarded. I can never play the hero I want. Every draft feels like a fucking dice roll because nobody communicates which hero they are going to pick. The games are worse then in quick match. I always feel forced to pick a hero I don't want just to make my team comp suck less hard. The worst of all is that people wont invite me in groups because I'm only rank 45. You know why? Because I dont fucking play hero league. Without atleast 3 pre grouped people hero league is just hell. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On February 13 2015 05:16 Amestir wrote: Alright I just have to rage about hero league for a second. It's fucking retarded. I can never play the hero I want. Every draft feels like a fucking dice roll because nobody communicates which hero they are going to pick. The games are worse then in quick match. I always feel forced to pick a hero I don't want just to make my team comp suck less hard. The worst of all is that people wont invite me in groups because I'm only rank 45. You know why? Because I dont fucking play hero league. Without atleast 3 pre grouped people hero league is just hell. This is why even though I've had hero league unlocked since it came out I play far more QM than hero. Usually when I boot up heroes I have an idea of who I want to play. In hero league I'm usually forced to play a tank or support role even if I feel like playing assassin. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Turns out Chen's Wandering Keg is basically a poor-man's Emerald Wind now. Was neat to see them use Anub (with webs!). Seemed like the entire team was made to be as annoying as possible. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10116 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On February 13 2015 05:16 Amestir wrote: Alright I just have to rage about hero league for a second. It's fucking retarded. I can never play the hero I want. Every draft feels like a fucking dice roll because nobody communicates which hero they are going to pick. The games are worse then in quick match. I always feel forced to pick a hero I don't want just to make my team comp suck less hard. The worst of all is that people wont invite me in groups because I'm only rank 45. You know why? Because I dont fucking play hero league. Without atleast 3 pre grouped people hero league is just hell. It seems like you are like myself, its a shame we are on different regions or i could add you and play with you. I don't feel bad havint to play a hero i dont want because well, i only have heroes that i like, and i'm confortable playing any role, altough i generally play tank. The problem i have is when im on the firsts picks and even when i tell my team mates that they shouldn't choose x hero because is bad idea to have 3 healers, or because the team really needs a stun to stop nazeebo, and they don't listen <.< And i agree that quickmatch can be better than ranked, specially now that there are more players, since quickmatch forces certain kind of compositions, its more difficult right now to get a bad comp on quickmatch. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On February 13 2015 05:44 [SXG]Phantom wrote: It seems like you are like myself, its a shame we are on different regions or i could add you and play with you. I don't feel bad havint to play a hero i dont want because well, i only have heroes that i like, and i'm confortable playing any role, altough i generally play tank. The problem i have is when im on the firsts picks and even when i tell my team mates that they shouldn't choose x hero because is bad idea to have 3 healers, or because the team really needs a stun to stop nazeebo, and they don't listen <.< And i agree that quickmatch can be better than ranked, specially now that there are more players, since quickmatch forces certain kind of compositions, its more difficult right now to get a bad comp on quickmatch. I never get good team comps when I play quick match. Ten assassin games are actually fun I think, but that isn't a good team comp. The games where you're playing against Nazeebo or Thrall with no cc are just stupid. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On February 13 2015 05:39 Godwrath wrote: Yeah. Sonya's damage with the +10% from talent, and +10% from ultimate buffs seems pretty good. And now a Sonya game with Leap. Really neat to see her played differently *before* Blizzard gets around to buffing her. Man that series was awesome, what a finish. I actually don't remember Fnatic being that good so that was a surprise to me. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On February 13 2015 06:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I never get good team comps when I play quick match. Ten assassin games are actually fun I think, but that isn't a good team comp. The games where you're playing against Nazeebo or Thrall with no cc are just stupid. I cannot think of a 5 man comp that has 0 ways to interrupt Nazeebo ult or CC Thrall in some way, maybe not the best way, there's always a way. Oh wait, I thought of one that can't deal with Nazeebo: Lili, Abathur, Arthas, Nova, Rehgar. But again, that's really hard. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
You picked the two non-cc / interrupt healers so I had to reuse Rehgar. I could have put Malfurion there since he generally wants Tranq rather than Twilight Nightmare (or whatever it's called), but he can interrupt if necessary. | ||
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lestye
United States4149 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On February 13 2015 07:39 Wuster wrote: Here's another one: Arthas, Illidan, Rehgar, Tassadar, Nazeebo (not even going to dignify go gargantuan as an option). You picked the two non-cc / interrupt healers so I had to reuse Rehgar. I could have put Malfurion there since he generally wants Tranq rather than Twilight Nightmare (or whatever it's called), but he can interrupt if necessary. Illidan has The Hunt. | ||
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