Why Muslim Uighurs are angry in China ? - Page 3

On July 07 2009 19:21 haduken wrote:
It's very interesting how in a completely foreign land; all the differences that we had at home are no longer issue at all. I'm there cracking jokes to this guy whom is Chinese in every way but with blue eyes.

On July 07 2009 19:21 haduken wrote:
I live in a neighbourhood with a large Chinese (All races) community. There is a local Uighur restaurant next door to my house. I spoke to the owner, his mandarin needs a little work but all and all he is just as Chinese as I am.

It's very interesting how in a completely foreign land; all the differences that we had at home are no longer issue at all. I'm there cracking jokes to this guy whom is Chinese in every way but with blue eyes.

It's such a shame because China is such a diverse and multi-racial society. Even Hans are not pure Hans at all, most of the Manchurians assimilated and no longer identify themselves as Manchurians. It's hard to believe that our nation has 51 races.

On July 07 2009 17:53 asleepingpig wrote:


According to China race policy, it is. But it doesn't means that there is no discrimination. China history is very complicated. There are 55 miniroties in China, among them there are 2 Muslim races. One of them is Uighurs and another is Hui. In history, there were wars between Uighurs and Hui, so they are hostile.

Nowadays most minorities are not discriminated. But Uighurs might have some problems. There is only one reason, Uighur thieves in every China city who are free from law. Nobody cannot hate them.
But for normal Uighurs, they are treated like foreigners as they say different language and their apprearance is totally different.

On July 07 2009 20:09 haduken wrote:


Hui is not a different race. They are HANS who converted to Islam. Communist ideology did not cater for religious groups who have significant population and influence so they labeled them into a different racial group.

On July 07 2009 20:12 MK wrote:
Ok, so China doesn't care about religion and race and is ok with everything if no trouble and unite country, right ?

It seems pretty ok for me. Pretty fair.

On July 07 2009 19:39 MoltkeWarding wrote:
That is true for all foreigners in all countries, but especially true of Chinamen.

Here in Germany, there is a large degree of social contact between Poles, Spaniards, Americans, Frenchmen, Russians, etc., but Chinamen are never seen talking to anyone other than their own race. The more interesting contrast is between the pompous, impatient, egotistical Chinaman within China, and the meek, shy and reserved Chinaman abroad.

Although the pattern is not completely one-sided; there are particular features of German society and the German mentality which makes assimilation much more difficult here than in Anglo-Saxon nations.

They don't care what ethnicity you are as long as they control you. That seems fair to you?!

On July 07 2009 21:10 indecision wrote:


Oh come on.
I know there are quite big Chinese communities around the universities in Germany that don't have that much interaction with the other students, but it's not like there's a lot going on with the Turkish or Russian communities either, they're just not that big on campus.

Also, the French kinda feel out of place in this comparison for me.

On July 07 2009 21:10 indecision wrote:


Oh come on.
I know there are quite big Chinese communities around the universities in Germany that don't have that much interaction with the other students, but it's not like there's a lot going on with the Turkish or Russian communities either, they're just not that big on campus.

Also, the French kinda feel out of place in this comparison for me.

On July 07 2009 21:28 MoltkeWarding wrote:


First of all, Turks don't go to university

Secondly, in my experience there are different kinds of Russians: those on exchange programmes are more likely to be integrated within the "Erasmus" crowd than those who study here as normal students. The former are more likely to be party animals than the latter, who are more serious about their studies, although the two categories overlap. There's an obvious difference between well-to-do Russians from large cities and Russian migrants from provincial towns, etc.

Thirdly, International students tend to associate the most with people of their own nationality. This is true for almost every minority student, unless he is the only representative of his nation/culture at that university. This is true even for people who attempt to eschew contacts with their own nationality in favour of local integration. They all end up discovering some element of patriotism within themselves of which they were previously unaware.

Fourthly, international students associate with other international students. This is especially true for students with minute national representations such as Finland, Latvia or Denmark. This is also due to the preparatory courses and activities which occur pre-semester, in which exchange students are inevitably introduced to other exchange students, wherein networks are developed.

Finally, international students seem to interact with German students the least, regardless of nationality. There is the condition that Germans have established social circles. There is the linguistic inequality which highly favours the German. There is the phlegmatic teutonic humour. Whatever the causes, these are the effects.

On July 07 2009 21:28 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Secondly, in my experience there are different kinds of Russians: those on exchange programmes are more likely to be integrated within the "Erasmus" crowd than those who study here as normal students. The former are more likely to be party animals than the latter, who are more serious about their studies, although the two categories overlap. There's an obvious difference between well-to-do Russians from large cities and Russian migrants from provincial towns, etc.