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Manit0u
Poland17845 Posts
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WWJDD
India342 Posts
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Reflex
Canada703 Posts
On January 07 2010 14:28 Manit0u wrote: Instead of watching some dumb TV series you should watch something that's actually good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYKNCN1ESZM Definitely agree, this is an excellent doc! | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On January 07 2010 14:36 WWJDD wrote: Bye-bye bluefin tuna. Very soon there won't be any whale left either at this rate. They haven't rebounded as much as the Japanese whalers would like us to think. Well in one corner you've got scientists telling people to eat more fish and in the other corner scientists saying 'Stop fishing , we are running out of fish' The problem of course is overpopulation but no-one ever seems to want to address this , even China was criticized for it's 1 child policy. | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On January 07 2010 15:55 alffla wrote: woah wtf the COVE looks so intense O_O seriously i must find a way to watch this now | ||
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JeanGuy
Canada18 Posts
they look so dumb | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10960 Posts
On January 07 2010 16:21 PobTheCad wrote: Well in one corner you've got scientists telling people to eat more fish and in the other corner scientists saying 'Stop fishing , we are running out of fish' The problem of course is overpopulation but no-one ever seems to want to address this , even China was criticized for it's 1 child policy. No We got scientists saying don't eat these fishes, they're gonna die out. We got scientists saying eat more fish. It's not contrary to each other, we just tend to like a few fishes more than others and therefore these become overfished and endangered. Eating more fish in general would be no problem at all. The "overpopulation" card gets pulled way to often... Certain places on the world are overpopulated, but europe and north america which probably take a huge part in the overfishing problem are far from overpopulated. | ||
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
On January 07 2010 16:21 PobTheCad wrote: Well in one corner you've got scientists telling people to eat more fish and in the other corner scientists saying 'Stop fishing , we are running out of fish' The problem of course is overpopulation but no-one ever seems to want to address this , even China was criticized for it's 1 child policy. This is so true and changes are needed because the world simply can't sustain anymore people ravishing every natural resource and beauty the world has left. But to change this you have to understand something about how the world works at the moment. The world is overpopulated and still politicians in the western world constantly panick if the population of their country isn't growing. This is logical because their is a certain amount of growth needed to maintain the pensions and benefits in the way they work now. This generation is paying for the previous generation so if the population wouldn't grow the system would collapse and plummet the country in question into chaos. Still the poluticians won't take any steps to try to solve this because that would make them unpopular with the generation before us who are still largely in power. In an ideal world you would save for your own pension but in reality all your money is used to pay your parents. Since it normally isn't possible for 1 child to take care of 2 parents the population is in a vicious circle to keep growing or stay at an equilibrium at the bare minimum. You also see this (in a slightly different form) in most of the African countries where a lot of children are dying very young resulting in the parents getting more and more children to make sure some of them live long enough to take care of them when they grow old. As a result however there are a lot more people living in those countries then the land can sustain, resulting in food shortages (that will keep getting worse because a lot of the farm land is destroyed due to measures that cause the land to yield a bigger harvest on the short term but that deplete the land of all the nutrients etc. on the long term) and more deaths thus starting the circle over again. Combine this with the strict religious beliefs most people in Africa practise and that forbid them to use birthcontrol (being it either Christian or Muslim, both don't really differ on this point). If everybody in those areas this plays a role had only 1 or 2 children the land would have a chance to bounce back and provide a much better living for everbody. Think about it. Instead of having a starving family of 10 who contantly need to worry where their next meal is coming from you would have a family of 4 who are well fed because the available food doesn't have to be stretched so thinly. This results in having more time to develop the country and the world. But alas all of this probably is a utopia since it needs many harsh and drastic changes I'm afraid the world is not willing to make. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3851 Posts
that sea sheppard boat got OWNED | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
go watch it now. I will never go to sea world again, and neither will anyone in my family. i guarantee it. + Show Spoiler [ actual spoiler] + and as for the Japanese involvement, i literally lost the little respect i had left for their government, they would go so far as to feed their own children mercury poisoned dolphin meat they slaughtered in the most despicably horrifying way simply to improve revenue. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17845 Posts
On January 07 2010 15:55 alffla wrote: woah wtf the COVE looks so intense O_O Trust me. It is  It's probably the best environmental documentary ever made. Especially that it doesn't focus on the usual "leave nature alone" and other bullshit like that. It is a truly moving and terrifying at the same time story about modern day ethics. | ||
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
EDIT: I'm referring to The Cove documentary.r | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
On January 07 2010 18:46 Golden Ghost wrote: The world is overpopulated and still politicians in the western world constantly panick if the population of their country isn't growing. This is logical because their is a certain amount of growth needed to maintain the pensions and benefits in the way they work now. This generation is paying for the previous generation so if the population wouldn't grow the system would collapse and plummet the country in question into chaos. Still the poluticians won't take any steps to try to solve this because that would make them unpopular with the generation before us who are still largely in power. In an ideal world you would save for your own pension but in reality all your money is used to pay your parents. Since it normally isn't possible for 1 child to take care of 2 parents the population is in a vicious circle to keep growing or stay at an equilibrium at the bare minimum. Isn't this one of the main arguments for superannuation schemes? I don't know about the netherlands (which I'm guessing has a high tax rate and large pension scheme) but in australia they're slowly phasing out government pensions with mandatory superannuation. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
SYDNEY (AFP) – An anti-whaling activist has boarded a Japanese security ship to make a citizen's arrest of its captain over last month's sinking of a high-tech boat, an animal rights group said on Monday. New Zealand's Pete Bethune, captain of the futuristic Ady Gil powerboat which was smashed in two on January 6, jumped aboard the Japanese ship from a jetski under the cover of darkness, the Sea Shepherd group said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/australianzealandjapanwhaling http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-100215-2.html | ||
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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