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SuBlue
United States59 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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food
United States1951 Posts
On May 01 2009 03:54 Pioneer wrote: Ok, no reason to be scared about kidney stones. Firstly don't listen to this guy, kidney stones aren't usually operated on. A couple people in my family frequently get kidney stones and they've always passed them and that's the case with most people. It's going to hurt like hell but you'll probably pass it. My grandmother gets them about every month or 2 months and she just drinks a lot of water. They suck but there's no reason to be scared. And if you're going to have to deal with the pain you might as well go to work. It'd be better making some money and be in pain rather than sitting at home at the computer, making no money & in pain. (depending on your job of course. If you sit at a desk I would say go but if you do like manual labor probably not). You're vomiting and crap? What the hell. I can understand it hurting enough to make you feel nauseated but that's kind of a lot. Are they sure it'd kidney stones btw? I had a kidney infection before and I had the same kind of pain in my back and felt sick occasionally. On May 01 2009 04:01 Pioneer wrote: That's a bit to much for kidney stones, I don't know the ins and out of how the insurance thing works but could your parents possibly put you on their insurance until you can get this whole situation worked out? Blood in the urine and the amount of pain + vomiting seems way different than kidney stones. I'm not a doctor nor very knowledgeable about this stuff but it seems a lot like when I had my kidney infection. Have you tried drinking any cranberry juice? That seemed to help me a lot and it's supposed to be good for flushing your kidneys. You don't know a lot about it, do you? To say something like "don't listen to this guy" you need to at least do some research first. If your relatives had it easy then everyone else will be OK too? There is a number of methods they use to remove stones if they can't pass, and huge amount of large stones will never come out without surgeon breaking them up. If a stone does not pass for a period of time it can cause different complications. A friend of mine had this problem and had to undergo a surgery, she was about 23 yrs old at the time. Also you know nothing about symptoms, it definitely can cause blood in your urine and everything he spoke about. | ||
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PadrinO
Canada103 Posts
On May 01 2009 06:41 food wrote: You don't know a lot about it, do you? To say something like "don't listen to this guy" you need to at least do some research first. If your relatives had it easy then everyone else will be OK too? There is a number of methods they use to remove stones if they can't pass, and huge amount of large stones will never come out without surgeon breaking them up. If a stone does not pass for a period of time it can cause different complications. A friend of mine had this problem and had to undergo a surgery, she was about 23 yrs old at the time. Also you know nothing about symptoms, it definitely can cause blood in your urine and everything he spoke about. I bolded the bullshit. A stone can stay in your kidney indefinately without a problem. It's only when it is obstructing that it becomes a problem. Sign of obstruction? 1) Urine not coming out 2) Fever Now, it is possible a surgeon had to operate, but it's coming less and less common with the new methods (shockwave, pills) and they usually do this when it's absolutely necessary, which is rarely the case. Your right about a few things though. Operation is still used and likely more encouraged in countries where health care isn't free. Blood in urine is also a VERY common symptom of kidney stones. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On May 01 2009 06:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Go to the ER they can't turn you away. unless he's fucking loaded; this is pretty bad advice. | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
On May 01 2009 01:50 Alpine wrote: If you have no insurance, how did they do any tests on your urine? I have heard all you can do is flood yourself with fluids and gradually let it erode till its small enough to pass. Take the vicodin like they said. Maybe drink a lot of true cranberry juice (not the cocktail shit), that cleans the surface of the urinary tract which might lessen the pain of something large moving through it. This. Does it hurt when you drain the lizard? | ||
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
On May 01 2009 01:43 SuBlue wrote: So, I woke up Tuesday morning in complete fucking agony...the lower right side of my back was in the most pain of my life, and it felt like I had really really bad gas. I fell back asleep, woke up at 12, felt fine and went to work. Was fine all day and all night, went to work and then at around 1, it all started up again...so I went to the doctor. They found blood in my urinie, and said it is most likely kidney stones, I have no insurance....so they couldn't do a catscan or an ultrasound to find out how big they are, or where they were. I was told to just drink a lot of water, and take some vicodin for the pain. Does anyone else have any suggestions, or experiences with this? I'm missing a lot of time at work, that I can't really afford and the pain is really unpredictable...so it's hard to actually do anything. :-( Yes you probably have kidney stones, but dude wtf? try to get money or something, that shit if left untreated can rape your kidneys so bad (if there is an obstruction).... also it can cause the ideal environment for an infection later on.. for now just do what the doctors told you. Also drink more water and DONT DRINK SODA... I REPEAT DO NOT DRINK SODA, studies have not confirmed that diet soda helps, and even if it does, it helps to PREVENT kidney stones from forming, doesnt do anything when formed.... IF you drink regular soda more than water everyday thats a risk factor for developing kidney stones... Check for symptoms of alarm that include. - Fever. - fewer urine or absolutly no urine at all. -Pain on the other side of your back (can mean there is an obstruction in the lower urinary tract system. -Any other systemic symptom like muscular or articular pain, headache, nausea, vomiting, asthenia etc. -IF you do urinate check the color and smell of your orine, also check if it hurts in your penis when you urinate, those are typical signs of infection (again a complication of kidney stones that cause hydronephosis. What i cannot understand is why you dont have an insurance if you work? i thought that a work insurance must be given to everyone working legally ? maybe im wrong :s Good luck! | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On May 01 2009 07:07 PadrinO wrote: I bolded the bullshit. A stone can stay in your kidney indefinately without a problem. It's only when it is obstructing that it becomes a problem. Sign of obstruction? 1) Urine not coming out 2) Fever Now, it is possible a surgeon had to operate, but it's coming less and less common with the new methods (shockwave, pills) and they usually do this when it's absolutely necessary, which is rarely the case. How is this bullshit when it does happen? It can stay in your kidney for sure if it's not causing trouble, but we are not talking about this case are we? Also I treated "shockwave" as an "operation", pills will most likely not help in severe cases. You would be surprised if you actually found out what the number of operations is yearly and how long you have to wait for one. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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FirstProbe
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Kidney stones and renal colic are supposed to be amongst the most painful conditions. We treat them with NSAID's and paracetamol - which if I recall correctly, are similarly efficacious as opiods. Opiods may be necessary. Kidney stones, while sometimes painful continuously, are supposed to be worst in three phases. 1. passing through the pelvis of the kidney 2. over the iliac vessels 3. at the junction of uretovesical junction Some stones will pass, others won't. Long term obstruction can lead to hydronephrosis and predispose to urinary tract infections. CT KUB has become a favoured tool for assessment, though a plain film KUB may be able to detect the stone alone (not as sensitive). USS is an option though is not as sensitive as CT in detection (though may provide other useful information). Confirming the diagnosis isn't always necessary as it may not change management. One medication that may possibly help passage of a kidney stone is an alpha blocker (such as doxazosin) - through its effect on relaxing ureteric smooth muscle tone and peristalsis. Beware of the first dose hypotensive effect, which can be quite profound. I forget exactly, but I believe NSAIDs may have some beneficial effect aside from analgesia, too. My standard cocktail is analgesics and possibly doxazosin. You can treat on the history alone though sometimes its nice to confirm the diagnosis. Failing that, or with other complications, it may be necessary to refer to a urologic specialist. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On May 01 2009 07:38 Aphelion wrote: Not getting health insurance was pretty fucking stupid. Not everyone can afford health insurance. Its health or cable internet for starcraft dammit! | ||
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Mista
Singapore1022 Posts
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SuBlue
United States59 Posts
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
On May 01 2009 13:00 SuBlue wrote: I think I passed one, it was really uneventful...went to take a piss, felt like something came out, wasn't really painful at all...but I felt something, and I looked down and there was this little brownish skin colored spikey thing. I nearly gagged from reading that | ||
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BC.WeaPonX
Canada107 Posts
Also if you're in a bad stone attack, try taking some epsom salts in water, about 1 tps per cup of water. This helps to open up the bile ducts and aids in passing stones. Now, if you want to prevent gallstone build up and avoid gallstone surgery, there are cleanses out there, most of them involve epsom salt ( Magnesium Sulphate) and olive oil as the aid to remove the stones. Search them and their results, many people swear by the cleanses. I my self have done it several times, I've never had a kidney stone and after each cleanse I feel better, energized and ready to fight off anything! | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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Pioneer
994 Posts
On May 01 2009 07:07 PadrinO wrote: I bolded the bullshit. A stone can stay in your kidney indefinately without a problem. It's only when it is obstructing that it becomes a problem. Sign of obstruction? 1) Urine not coming out 2) Fever Now, it is possible a surgeon had to operate, but it's coming less and less common with the new methods (shockwave, pills) and they usually do this when it's absolutely necessary, which is rarely the case. Your right about a few things though. Operation is still used and likely more encouraged in countries where health care isn't free. Blood in urine is also a VERY common symptom of kidney stones. Operating on kidney stones isn't as common as you made it out to be. And I never said I was the best source on it, read my subsequent posts. I had never heard of blood in urine but I remember having very similar symptoms when I had a kidney infection. That's why I suggested it might be that since the multiple family members that have had kidney stones have never mentioned blood in their urine except a little after the stone passed. Most kidney stones are passable without surgery, hell just the other my friends dad found out he had kidney stones and couldn't pass them without being broken up with something (not sure what it was) and they were supposedly larger than usual. Granted they had to shove something up his urethra but that's not the same as surgery. Maybe you're being a bit broad with what you consider surgery, I don't know but coming out and saying something along the lines of him needing surgery (I know that's not the exact wording but that's how it came across at least for me) is a bit over the top. i accidently quoted padrino too, my post was meant to be directed at food only. | ||
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
i think i gagged a few times already i this thread. | ||
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PadrinO
Canada103 Posts
On May 01 2009 13:00 SuBlue wrote: I think I passed one, it was really uneventful...went to take a piss, felt like something came out, wasn't really painful at all...but I felt something, and I looked down and there was this little brownish skin colored spikey thing. Yep that was it. As I said, smaller stones usually involve little pain when you urinate them. It's the lower back pain a few days before that's a lot worse. You might have gotten lucky though and it might have broken into several pieces. Your almost guaranteed that the rest of them will be small enough to pee them on your own. There's probably gonna be a couple more in the next few days. Keep drinking water! | ||
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