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On May 01 2009 04:04 psion0011 wrote:If you didn't have that much pain while urinating out the stone, consider yourself lucky. Kidney stones vary WILDLY in size and shape (some can by sharp and spikey, others smooth) My friend's uncle compared it to getting shot in vietnam and said passing his kidney stone was considerably worse. The scene in the washroom after he was done was apparently like a murder scene - blood on the floor, walls, ceiling (!?), etc. Imagine passing this instead of your smooth little grains:
This is the most disturbing picture i have ever seen in my life.
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Stop smoking and buy insurance.
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On May 01 2009 01:50 Alpine wrote:
If you have no insurance, how did they do any tests on your urine?
I have heard all you can do is flood yourself with fluids and gradually let it erode till its small enough to pass. Take the vicodin like they said. Maybe drink a lot of true cranberry juice (not the cocktail shit), that cleans the surface of the urinary tract which might lessen the pain of something large moving through it.
im pretty sure you need don't need to do a test to see that blood is in your urine.
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HOLY FUCK. I just read 3 pages of a thread about pissing out kidneys stones when I have an 11 page paper due in 8 hours.
If an admin reads this 2 day temp ban plz
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I'm really curious as to how the stone actually tastes, perhaps someone in tl can give it a try and let me know?
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On May 01 2009 14:06 bboyldy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 01:50 Alpine wrote:
If you have no insurance, how did they do any tests on your urine?
I have heard all you can do is flood yourself with fluids and gradually let it erode till its small enough to pass. Take the vicodin like they said. Maybe drink a lot of true cranberry juice (not the cocktail shit), that cleans the surface of the urinary tract which might lessen the pain of something large moving through it. im pretty sure you need don't need to do a test to see that blood is in your urine.
You do.
They test for microscopic amounts that are caused by kidney stones and that are impossible for you to see yourself.
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On May 01 2009 01:53 food wrote:
they wont help you with this if you dont have insurance? ROFL im about to flee US anyways, this only adds to the pot
gtfo
they won't help him because he can't afford to pay the fees. he has to pay fees because it doesn't qualify for pro bono. the fees are high because he has no medical insurance. he has no medical insurance because... ? usually it means he is over 23 (no longer covered under his parent/guardian's plan) and doesn't have a job with benefits and he neglects to pay for it himself (full stand-alone PPO coverage with most carriers costs about 50-150 bucks/month for a single, young man).
medical insurance is very cheap relative to the cost of medical services; one major accident or surgery and it pays for itself many times over. not to mention 5-30 dollar copays, and cheap prescriptions. walking around without medical insurance is really stupid and selfish. "hey society, catch me if i fall!" i don't know anybody who's never gotten sick.
but no, you're right; we shouldn't be responsible for ourselves. that's obviously the government's duty.
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On May 01 2009 16:32 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 01:53 food wrote:
they wont help you with this if you dont have insurance? ROFL im about to flee US anyways, this only adds to the pot gtfo they won't help him because he can't afford to pay the fees. he has to pay fees because it doesn't qualify for pro bono. the fees are high because he has no medical insurance. he has no medical insurance because... ? usually it means he is over 23 (no longer covered under his parent/guardian's plan) and doesn't have a job with benefits and he neglects to pay for it himself (full stand-alone PPO coverage with most carriers costs about 50-150 bucks/month for a single, young man). medical insurance is very cheap relative to the cost of medical services; one major accident or surgery and it pays for itself many times over. not to mention 5-30 dollar copays, and cheap prescriptions. walking around without medical insurance is really stupid and selfish. "hey society, catch me if i fall!" i don't know anybody who's never gotten sick. but no, you're right; we shouldn't be responsible for ourselves. that's obviously the government's duty.
I find it comical that in the country like USA people are expected to be fully aware and responsible for their health while almost everywhere else government considers this one of their priorities. Maybe you are smart and educated on the matter, does this mean that major amount of population doesn't even deserve to get help? Also, 50-150 $ a month is not a tiny bit of money, especially if you live on your own. Insurance will not even offer a full coverage on all your expenses, often times it's a huge scam in itself. If anything, US health care system is fucked up, you talk about insurance covering the high cost of it but first of all you should realize that it is insanely overpriced. How much do you make to afford 80$ monthly on average without cutting something else?
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On May 01 2009 04:04 psion0011 wrote:
This shit right here gives me chills....I on the other hand qualified for a whole year of insurance b/c of my low-income. I only earn about 30k a year and qualified for a year's worth of insurance. I'm glad I have it since im 23 now and every now and then I will feel something I don't think is normal but anyways I am glad I have it. You should try and look up in your city about low-income insurance. I'm taking advantage of mine as much as I can as I might be bumping up to 50k a year soon.
Oh and just make sure u drink plenty of fluid. Also I heard drinking some beer can help as well.
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That picture is making me sick..i hope i never have to go through this..
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On May 02 2009 02:10 food wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 16:32 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 01 2009 01:53 food wrote:
they wont help you with this if you dont have insurance? ROFL im about to flee US anyways, this only adds to the pot gtfo they won't help him because he can't afford to pay the fees. he has to pay fees because it doesn't qualify for pro bono. the fees are high because he has no medical insurance. he has no medical insurance because... ? usually it means he is over 23 (no longer covered under his parent/guardian's plan) and doesn't have a job with benefits and he neglects to pay for it himself (full stand-alone PPO coverage with most carriers costs about 50-150 bucks/month for a single, young man). medical insurance is very cheap relative to the cost of medical services; one major accident or surgery and it pays for itself many times over. not to mention 5-30 dollar copays, and cheap prescriptions. walking around without medical insurance is really stupid and selfish. "hey society, catch me if i fall!" i don't know anybody who's never gotten sick. but no, you're right; we shouldn't be responsible for ourselves. that's obviously the government's duty. I find it comical that in the country like USA people are expected to be fully aware and responsible for their health while almost everywhere else government considers this one of their priorities. Maybe you are smart and educated on the matter, does this mean that major amount of population doesn't even deserve to get help? Also, 50-150 $ a month is not a tiny bit of money, especially if you live on your own. Insurance will not even offer a full coverage on all your expenses, often times it's a huge scam in itself. If anything, US health care system is fucked up, you talk about insurance covering the high cost of it but first of all you should realize that it is insanely overpriced. How much do you make to afford 80$ monthly on average without cutting something else?
If paying medical insurance puts you in the red, then you are living beyond your means.
When you nationalize the health care, you alleviate responsibility from individuals at the cost of poorer service for all. Look at England's system, it's fucked.
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If paying medical insurance puts you in the red, then you are living beyond your means. Oh wow.
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I had one two years ago, it was by far the worst pain I have ever experienced. In the end, I couldnt even stand because I lacked the strength for it.
Drink a lot and take painkillers in order to relax as much as possible. You will definitely know when it is about to come out. Show the stone to your doctor so he can analyze it and give you tips how to prevent a second one (which is, unfortunately, very likely).
Even though it happened years ago, I still have problems with my kidneys due to the stone and I changed a lot in my lifestyle just to prevent having another one. I wish you the best of luck.
Edit: I dont want to scare you, those are just my experiences - there are a lot of people who had much less problems.
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My father has had 1 or 2 kidney stones. I guess I should watch out : (
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On May 02 2009 02:41 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2009 02:10 food wrote:On May 01 2009 16:32 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 01 2009 01:53 food wrote:
they wont help you with this if you dont have insurance? ROFL im about to flee US anyways, this only adds to the pot gtfo they won't help him because he can't afford to pay the fees. he has to pay fees because it doesn't qualify for pro bono. the fees are high because he has no medical insurance. he has no medical insurance because... ? usually it means he is over 23 (no longer covered under his parent/guardian's plan) and doesn't have a job with benefits and he neglects to pay for it himself (full stand-alone PPO coverage with most carriers costs about 50-150 bucks/month for a single, young man). medical insurance is very cheap relative to the cost of medical services; one major accident or surgery and it pays for itself many times over. not to mention 5-30 dollar copays, and cheap prescriptions. walking around without medical insurance is really stupid and selfish. "hey society, catch me if i fall!" i don't know anybody who's never gotten sick. but no, you're right; we shouldn't be responsible for ourselves. that's obviously the government's duty. I find it comical that in the country like USA people are expected to be fully aware and responsible for their health while almost everywhere else government considers this one of their priorities. Maybe you are smart and educated on the matter, does this mean that major amount of population doesn't even deserve to get help? Also, 50-150 $ a month is not a tiny bit of money, especially if you live on your own. Insurance will not even offer a full coverage on all your expenses, often times it's a huge scam in itself. If anything, US health care system is fucked up, you talk about insurance covering the high cost of it but first of all you should realize that it is insanely overpriced. How much do you make to afford 80$ monthly on average without cutting something else? If paying medical insurance puts you in the red, then you are living beyond your means. When you nationalize the health care, you alleviate responsibility from individuals at the cost of poorer service for all. Look at England's system, it's fucked.
Rofl your brain is fucked. USA health care sucks terribly. My stomach hurts so fucking bad right now and I dont really know why. I took a shit and ate and it still hurts so I'm outta ideas. I am actually considering going to a clinic and getting checked out. I can do this and be back at home within like 45 minutes for free. Universal health care is not a bad thing. Health shouldn't be left to free-market ideology.
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Another case of the USA failing in health care. Its sad that they actually TURN AWAY people because they don't have insurance or money to cover ridiculously expensive procedures. I'm sorry to hear that man, if there was anything I could do I would help in an instant.
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On May 02 2009 03:51 MiniRoman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2009 02:41 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 02 2009 02:10 food wrote:On May 01 2009 16:32 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 01 2009 01:53 food wrote:
they wont help you with this if you dont have insurance? ROFL im about to flee US anyways, this only adds to the pot gtfo they won't help him because he can't afford to pay the fees. he has to pay fees because it doesn't qualify for pro bono. the fees are high because he has no medical insurance. he has no medical insurance because... ? usually it means he is over 23 (no longer covered under his parent/guardian's plan) and doesn't have a job with benefits and he neglects to pay for it himself (full stand-alone PPO coverage with most carriers costs about 50-150 bucks/month for a single, young man). medical insurance is very cheap relative to the cost of medical services; one major accident or surgery and it pays for itself many times over. not to mention 5-30 dollar copays, and cheap prescriptions. walking around without medical insurance is really stupid and selfish. "hey society, catch me if i fall!" i don't know anybody who's never gotten sick. but no, you're right; we shouldn't be responsible for ourselves. that's obviously the government's duty. I find it comical that in the country like USA people are expected to be fully aware and responsible for their health while almost everywhere else government considers this one of their priorities. Maybe you are smart and educated on the matter, does this mean that major amount of population doesn't even deserve to get help? Also, 50-150 $ a month is not a tiny bit of money, especially if you live on your own. Insurance will not even offer a full coverage on all your expenses, often times it's a huge scam in itself. If anything, US health care system is fucked up, you talk about insurance covering the high cost of it but first of all you should realize that it is insanely overpriced. How much do you make to afford 80$ monthly on average without cutting something else? If paying medical insurance puts you in the red, then you are living beyond your means. When you nationalize the health care, you alleviate responsibility from individuals at the cost of poorer service for all. Look at England's system, it's fucked. Rofl your brain is fucked. USA health care sucks terribly. My stomach hurts so fucking bad right now and I dont really know why. I took a shit and ate and it still hurts so I'm outta ideas. I am actually considering going to a clinic and getting checked out. I can do this and be back at home within like 45 minutes for free. Universal health care is not a bad thing. Health shouldn't be left to free-market ideology.
When I feel ill, I go to the doctor's office and see a doctor. Not a nurse, a doctor. It costs me $10. Any meds also cost $10. You exaggerate about "free-market". The fact is, you only have to be responsible enough to get insured. That's not dog-eat-dog laissez faire as you imply. Medical care is very accessible.
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On May 02 2009 03:51 MiniRoman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2009 02:41 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 02 2009 02:10 food wrote:On May 01 2009 16:32 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 01 2009 01:53 food wrote:
they wont help you with this if you dont have insurance? ROFL im about to flee US anyways, this only adds to the pot gtfo they won't help him because he can't afford to pay the fees. he has to pay fees because it doesn't qualify for pro bono. the fees are high because he has no medical insurance. he has no medical insurance because... ? usually it means he is over 23 (no longer covered under his parent/guardian's plan) and doesn't have a job with benefits and he neglects to pay for it himself (full stand-alone PPO coverage with most carriers costs about 50-150 bucks/month for a single, young man). medical insurance is very cheap relative to the cost of medical services; one major accident or surgery and it pays for itself many times over. not to mention 5-30 dollar copays, and cheap prescriptions. walking around without medical insurance is really stupid and selfish. "hey society, catch me if i fall!" i don't know anybody who's never gotten sick. but no, you're right; we shouldn't be responsible for ourselves. that's obviously the government's duty. I find it comical that in the country like USA people are expected to be fully aware and responsible for their health while almost everywhere else government considers this one of their priorities. Maybe you are smart and educated on the matter, does this mean that major amount of population doesn't even deserve to get help? Also, 50-150 $ a month is not a tiny bit of money, especially if you live on your own. Insurance will not even offer a full coverage on all your expenses, often times it's a huge scam in itself. If anything, US health care system is fucked up, you talk about insurance covering the high cost of it but first of all you should realize that it is insanely overpriced. How much do you make to afford 80$ monthly on average without cutting something else? If paying medical insurance puts you in the red, then you are living beyond your means. When you nationalize the health care, you alleviate responsibility from individuals at the cost of poorer service for all. Look at England's system, it's fucked. Rofl your brain is fucked. USA health care sucks terribly. My stomach hurts so fucking bad right now and I dont really know why. I took a shit and ate and it still hurts so I'm outta ideas. I am actually considering going to a clinic and getting checked out. I can do this and be back at home within like 45 minutes for free. Universal health care is not a bad thing. Health shouldn't be left to free-market ideology.
USA health care is generally many times then universal health care countries... why...? enjoy spending multiple hours in line in the emergency room because people go there for a common cold... because it's free.
Clinic check ups aren't that expensive and even if you live on your own 50-150 a month should be no problem at ALL for someone to come up with.
I don't think the US could really afford universal health care to be completely honest with you. Countries with that have on average 1/5th the population the United States does and the US is already spending a good chunk of change on social insurance/means-tested programs.
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On May 02 2009 02:48 L wrote:Show nested quote +If paying medical insurance puts you in the red, then you are living beyond your means. Oh wow.
It's like rent, food, car payment, car insurance, or any other expense. You have to budget your expenses and figure in necessary costs. Are non-americans really this dependent on the government, that the concept of budgeting your money for your needs elicits "oohs" and "ahhs"? Pathetic.
Again, any full-time job is 99% likely to provide medical insurance. If a US American is uninsured, it is self-neglect. Just like, if you get in a major car accident and you didn't have auto insurance, you are also rolling the dice.
The OP has an internet connection, probably a cell phone, probably a car payment. But no health insurance? And it's USA's fault? No no, we value our individualism a bit more than that, thank you.
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Enjoy pissing out rocks broseph. yo dick gon' fall off dawg.
Serious Response:
You're probably going to be in tons of pain. One of my friends dad had kidney stones and he was wrecked for a couple of days.
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