I wonder why so much excitement after the death of a former PM of Japan?
Chinese nationalists on social media used phrases including "Open Champagne!" to celebrate the death of Japan's former Prime Minister Abe Shinzo, who was assassinated Friday morning while giving a campaign speech in support of a candidate in the ruling Liberal Democratic Party.
Abe, 67, was shot at twice on Friday approximately 11:30 a.m. local time in the city of Nara, close to Kyoto, while he was giving a campaign speech for Kei Sato, a fellow Liberal Democratic Party member and a national election candidate.
Abe was rushed to hospital in a helicopter and later died at 5.03 p.m, bleeding to death from two wounds on the right side of his neck, a doctor told a televised news conference.
Born on September 21, 1954, Abe belonged to a political family and held various responsible positions. His grandfather Nobusuke Kishi was Prime Minister of Japan from 1957 to 1960 and his father Shintaro Abe was the country’s Foreign Minister from 1982 to 1986.
Abe first became Prime Minister in 2006. He again held the post in 2012 and was re-elected in 2014 and 2017 with his continued stint gave stability to the country while ushering in faster growth. He announced his resignation in August 2020 as a chronic illness resurfaced.
Shinzo Abe has been characterised in Chinese state media to be a warmongering militarist who seeks to recreate the Empire of Japan and invade China. Imagine nazi, but actual nazi party, not just as an euphemism. Since the state media is the only source of world news without seeking deliberately with a VPN it's no suprise that Chinese netizens react in such a way. This characterisationis of course utter nonsense, though it is true that he oversaw an increased defence spending and reinterpreted the Japanese Constitution to make legal the use of Japanese military abroad in aid of an ally.
OK, now this I think is similar and another outworldly absurd thing. Chinese seem to be raging over a VTuber signing up for a VTuber agency (calling for boycott of said agency) because she happened to mention Taiwan on stream once 2 years ago.
It's mind-boggling that there can be so much hate...
Some unrests are starting in China. Local banks in Henan province (backed by the central bank) have had all of their money stolen by the local government, bank owners etc. and sent off shore. A lot of people around the country (not just Henan province) have lost their life savings and can no longer access their accounts or the banking system. 40-50k people were supposedly affected for a total of $6 billion.
When they started to flock to Henan to find out what happened a lot of them suddenly got red COVID codes (meaning they're banned from travel), which started more unrests and made people lose trust in the 0 COVID policy once they saw how it can be used to control them. Anyone who managed to get to Henan to protest (about a thousand people) got chased away by gangs of local thugs.
In other news, in 200 housing projects across 50 cities people are refusing to pay mortgage. Looks like the housing market is finally collapsing in China.
More and more big cities are getting under lockdown, including big tech centers like Shenzen.
This all looks really bad for the Chinese economy.
Henan authorities are under tremendous pressure to stop the protests. But depositors remain undeterred. As the issue drags on, many have become ever more desperate to recover their savings. Huang, the depositor from Wuhan, lost his job in the medical cosmetology industry this year, as businesses struggled in the pandemic. Yet he is unable to withdraw any of his life savings -- of over 500,000 yuan ($75,000) -- from a rural bank in Henan. "Being unemployed, all I can live on is my past savings. But I can't even do that now -- how am I supposed to (support my family)?" said Huang, whose son is in high school. Sun, from Shenzhen, is struggling to keep his machine factory from bankruptcy after losing his deposit of 4 million yuan ($597,000) to a Henan bank. He can't even pay his more than 40 employees without the funds.
Sun said he was covered in bruises and had a swollen lower back after being repeatedly stomped by security guards at the protest. "The incident completely overturned my perception of the government. I've lived all my life placing so much faith in the government. After today, I'll never trust it again," he said.
As a Chinese, coming here to answer the true thoughts of Chinese people will always be treated maliciously. Because I use translation software, I may not be able to express my meaning correctly. The differences in customs and some taboos that are not respected may not be understood by non Chinese people. For example, using pigs to describe Chinese people is a very malicious swearing word. Dogs are human friends. In China, Using dogs to describe Chinese people is also a malicious word. Japan and China have hatred for hundreds of years, not just World War I and World War II，Those who are not familiar with Chinese history may not understand it very well,In World War II alone, 35million people were killed or injured in China, all thanks to Japan. Shinzo Abe's grandfather was a famous war criminal, and Shinzo Abe also constantly visited the Yasukuni Shrine. Chinese people are unlikely to like Shinzo Abe.
The problem in Henan has caused public anger, and everyone is criticizing the Henan government. As for the bank, that bank is a private bank. It uses financial instruments to do fraud and uses higher interest rates to absorb funds from all over the country on the Internet. Now compensation is being paid in batches, starting with depositors below 50000 yuan, and then large depositors. To be honest, it is not clear how much compensation can be paid. Now deal with this matter. It is true that the parade was violently dealt with that day, and netizens all over the country expressed dissatisfaction.But the Chinese government's practice is not to expose this matter, and then solve the problem of depositors' funds. The question about real estate is like this,Do you know what uncompleted residential flats are? In China, the full payment has been made before the house is built. This part of the funds is in a special bank account. Part of the house is built and part of the funds are given to the real estate developers. Only after all the funds are built, can all the funds be given to the real estate developers. The actual situation is that before the house is built, all these funds are given to the real estate developers, and then the real estate developers get the money and run away or fail to invest, resulting in the failure of building the house, which is uncompleted residential flats.This is not a built house. Therefore, the buyer does not pay the loan, although this will affect the credit investigation. Usually, the government will negotiate to deal with this problem, recruit new developers and give preferential policies to deal with uncompleted residential flats. However, the reason for the COVID-19 is that China's economy is not good enough, so many problems have also been exposed. China's control of real estate has led banks not to lend to real estate developers,Various reasons have led to the problem of real estate. This year, the Chinese government has given many preferential policies to help the real estate market, but it has not played a big role. As long as the house can be completed and built normally,The buyer will definitely pay the loan.
On July 12 2022 04:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Shinzo Abe has been characterised in Chinese state media to be a warmongering militarist who seeks to recreate the Empire of Japan and invade China. Imagine nazi, but actual nazi party, not just as an euphemism. Since the state media is the only source of world news without seeking deliberately with a VPN it's no suprise that Chinese netizens react in such a way. This characterisationis of course utter nonsense, though it is true that he oversaw an increased defence spending and reinterpreted the Japanese Constitution to make legal the use of Japanese military abroad in aid of an ally.
Political discussion operate very similar to religion / ideology rather than science, so this kind of discussion probably don't do anything. Also, not having the best english or argument skill I'd think if it is a good idea to engage in this kind of thing.
It is well known that Abe visit the Yasukuni shrine every year. The shrine that host the remain / ash of the war criminals of WWII including Japan emperor / high ranking officials. Abe only stop visiting it when there is heavy criticism from asia countries, including south korea, not just china. But even then he send donation / offering to the shrine every year.
He also refuse repeated call for apology of the war crime / atrocities the Japanese committed during WWII. He never even consider saying things similar to "the WWII bring suffering to the people in asia". He also said Japan (as a country, not the people), is victim of the WWII. He also think Japan's action in WWII is just / righteous.
I have hard time believing Abe is a peace loving pacifist.
If we substitute the name with germany, It will look like this:
"He visit the church that host Hilter's grave every year*. He refuse to apologize for the acttion of germany during WWII, and think germany is the victim of WWII. He think germany act in line with just / righteous that it initiate the WWII."
The above statement absolutely does not sound like neo-nazi, right?
* Just an analogy, Hilter probably do not have a burial site, apology for the lack of history knowledge
Believe it or not, I actually do not have access to china state media, so it would be a bit hard to be brainwashed by it.
On July 12 2022 05:00 Manit0u wrote: OK, now this I think is similar and another outworldly absurd thing. Chinese seem to be raging over a VTuber signing up for a VTuber agency (calling for boycott of said agency) because she happened to mention Taiwan on stream once 2 years ago.
It's mind-boggling that there can be so much hate...
I find it kinda absurd that it's spilling over so much even in the online entertainment industry.
I looked at the twit, but it does not contain anything regarding the original statement that caused the whole episode of event. But I don't have the interest to dig up all the information related to this event.
However, I really doubt the chinese is going to rage over anyone mentioning Taiwan, it is not like they call that ' the place that shall not be named' or something like that. If that person is stating something similar to ' Taiwan is country', that is a different scenario.
As for the action of ban / blacklist / boycott actor / performer for their 'political' related statement, it is as old as anyone, if we look back in history, in the USA, during McCarthyism, it is well known that anyone who sympathize with communism will get shit on. Locally, it is known that in the 70's to 80's, if an actor work with / for Chinese project, or even saying that china is his motherland, will get him blacklisted by the taiwan indefinitely. There are very popular / best actor award contender with his career deleted overnight just because of that.
And more recently, we see a wave / movement to ban / blacklist / boycott performer / athlete / musician just because of their origin of birth, and it seems most of the people agree with that. I don't see how banning a VTuber for their action can be seen as more absurd than that.
I know the above paragraph is (kind of) whataboutism, and I don't necessarily agree / endorse to ban / blacklist / boycott people for their political statement (politician excluded). But saying this is more absurd than everything we are witnessing is probably not the most consistent in the rule set in determining 'absurdness'.
On July 12 2022 05:00 Manit0u wrote: OK, now this I think is similar and another outworldly absurd thing. Chinese seem to be raging over a VTuber signing up for a VTuber agency (calling for boycott of said agency) because she happened to mention Taiwan on stream once 2 years ago.
It's mind-boggling that there can be so much hate...
I find it kinda absurd that it's spilling over so much even in the online entertainment industry.
I looked at the twit, but it does not contain anything regarding the original statement that caused the whole episode of event. But I don't have the interest to dig up all the information related to this event.
However, I really doubt the chinese is going to rage over anyone mentioning Taiwan, it is not like they call that ' the place that shall not be named' or something like that. If that person is stating something similar to ' Taiwan is country', that is a different scenario.
As for the action of ban / blacklist / boycott actor / performer for their 'political' related statement, it is as old as anyone, if we look back in history, in the USA, during McCarthyism, it is well known that anyone who sympathize with communism will get shit on. Locally, it is known that in the 70's to 80's, if an actor work with / for Chinese project, or even saying that china is his motherland, will get him blacklisted by the taiwan indefinitely. There are very popular / best actor award contender with his career deleted overnight just because of that.
And more recently, we see a wave / movement to ban / blacklist / boycott performer / athlete / musician just because of their origin of birth, and it seems most of the people agree with that. I don't see how banning a VTuber for their action can be seen as more absurd than that.
I know the above paragraph is (kind of) whataboutism, and I don't necessarily agree / endorse to ban / blacklist / boycott people for their political statement (politician excluded). But saying this is more absurd than everything we are witnessing is probably not the most consistent in the rule set in determining 'absurdness'.
The incident in question was when Vtuber pointed out that Taiwan is listed as a separate country in Google Analytics (she was checking her own analytics at the time). That's it. I find the response is quite inappropriate and blown way out of proportion.
But there were other "problems" found with Vtubers, like one of them noticing that Hong Kong and Taiwan are censored words in Genshin Impact chat.
That stuff is mainly just crazy brainwashed people with nothing better to do than hate on someone else, because that gets them recognition and praise from their peers. It is definitely not state sanctioned.
Of course, this sort of behavior is tacitly encouraged, with the aim of focusing the discontent of Chinese netizens outwards instead of towards the government.
Its kinda of ironic, having a private bank under a communist society; but then again this happens in Cuba and Venezuela then again, the goverment seeying stuff they propose does not work, then giving some license to private citizens; Imagine living in a country where your bank can arbitrarily block your funds for whatever reason, and labeling you as a public health treat when you try to say something about it. Yeah people are angry, taking away their money will make them angry.
The next step is of course blocking peoples money when they socially behave badly;
This regime needs to fall, for the world to be a better place for Chinese people, and other people living in foreign countries as well
It's hard to understand some of China's behaviors without understanding China's history. China has been in a feudal society for more than 2000 years.China also has thousands of years of civil war.The Chinese are also a country that desperately desires peace and stability,China is also a country with a population of 1.4 billion. Even if only 1% of the population is dissatisfied with the government, it is a staggering 14million people.Can any country achieve a government support rate of more than 70-80%? If more than 20% of the people who are dissatisfied with the government in China are hundreds of millions of people, can you imagine a civil war of hundreds of millions of people? China has never had a history of peaceful regime change. Any regime change in history is a hundred years of civil war and tens of millions of casualties. First, there must be some Chinese people who are dissatisfied with the government, but when it comes to regime change, there are not many people who are extremely dissatisfied. Second, Chinese people don't like war, especially civil war, including possible war against Taiwan. Except for the older people, young people don't want war to happen. Third, in case of any mass dissatisfaction, the current government's practice is to try not to let the media publicize on a large scale, but the central government will let the local government try to solve the emergencies perfectly and appease the people's anger. Chinese people are also the most hardworking people,Chinese people are also the most tolerant people,It is difficult to change the regime，The majority of Chinese people do not want this.
Yeah I kinda cast doubt on the tolerant part, there are too many cases of outrage for little things like people badmouthing China or calling Taiwan a country. I get that this might be a somewhat small percentage of the Chinese while a lot of them just don't care, but the nationalist totalitarian mindset also clearly supported by the Chinese government as cases like f.e. the Chinese envoy threatening Swedish journalists show and the impression is that it's generally on the rise. Overall my impression is that if you say anything bad about China online you're in for a shitshow.
Also a democracy is arguably a system that allows for a peaceful transition (even if it fails on occasion), while a dictatorship is essentially just repeating the past mistakes of totalitarian rule. Still interesting to read a different view on this and I f.e. kinda get the hostility against Japan, even if I personally think that it'd be better to let these things go as the normalization of f.e. German and French relations have shown.
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