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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43209 Posts
4 hours ago
#17421
On November 10 2025 22:35 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2025 06:35 ETisME wrote:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/wars-most-challenging-night-ukraines-power-at-zero-after-russian-assault-winter-heating-crisis-fears-loom/

Ukraine says they are intercepting 406 out of 458 drones (and missiles).
That's pretty damn good if that's the case. I guess they are just shooting them down?

China is testing out drone mothership and has been pushing for drone shows to test their swarm logic.its seriously impressive.
Without cheap manufacturing base, I think the west just can't keep up to even test as often, let alone to manufacture in wartime.

Luckily China doesn't have as many capable allies in the global stage for now.


This is maybe a dumb question but doesn't a "drone mothership" kinda defeat the prupose of using small drones in the first place? I mean, I get it if it's super stealthy but else? What does it do that any other container that drones can launch from, like the trucks Ukraine used to attack russian airbases, can't?

Drone motherships are drones because you don’t want to risk a human and motherships because you want to concentrate expensive components in a reusable part while keeping the disposable parts cheap. You don’t want a skylink terminal on the drone that explodes but you want skylink involved. With a mothership setup you can relay a series of drones off of the connection.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6993 Posts
3 hours ago
#17422
On November 08 2025 07:50 Manit0u wrote:
https://cepa.org/article/pokrovsk-where-putin-shattered-his-teeth/

An interesting article on the tactical value of holding Pokrovsk for as long as they have and why they won't just surrender like pro-Russian pundits would like them to do.

Also, the guy who wrote this article is some certified gigachad:
Show nested quote +

Shaun Pinner is a British-born author, public speaker, and recipient of Ukraine’s Order of Courage for selfless acts in the defence of the nation’s sovereignty. A former British Army soldier with nine years in the Royal Anglian Regiment and UN service in Bosnia, he joined Ukraine’s Armed Forces in 2018, becoming the first International to command a frontline position as a Ukrainian Marine. His 2024 book Live. Fight. Survive. recounts his journey through the siege of Mariupol, his capture, torture, and death sentence by Russian proxies, and his dramatic release in a Saudi-brokered prisoner exchange. Since then, Shaun has briefed NATO forces and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) schools worldwide, spoken extensively on Ukraine’s war and resilience, and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. He continues to live in Ukraine with his wife, supporting humanitarian work and documenting the country’s fight for freedom.


Holy shit that is some Call of Duty level of Chadness. Interesting article thanks for sharing
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation172 Posts
3 hours ago
#17423
On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia.


Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine


They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen


Do you think that Ukraine can win this war?
Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army?
Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-10 14:47:01
3 hours ago
#17424
On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:
On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia.


Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine


They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen

Do you think that Ukraine can win this war?
Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army?
Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?

You should look up what "pyrrhic victory" means and then ask your questions again.

Or do you consider the current state of affairs to be acceptable for Russia after almost 4 years of a "special military operation" that was supposed to last less than a week?
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-10 14:49:41
3 hours ago
#17425
I love the fueling the war argument. Imagine the mental state needed to ignore the part that the war is taking place on Ukrainian territory or the part that most of the deaths happen during Russian attacks on Ukrainian positions.

Made up claims about von der Leyen or Zelensky are a cherry on top considering we can read news like this or this every second month.
You're now breathing manually
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43209 Posts
2 hours ago
#17426
On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:
On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia.


Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine


They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen


Do you think that Ukraine can win this war?
Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army?
Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?

Yes, Ukraine can win. It wins every day by continuing to exist as an independent state. Russia has no means of ending Ukrainian resistance and so Ukraine will continue to win indefinitely.

Russia has already lost (per the stated war aims around rearmament and NATO expansion) but is stuck in pure sunk cost fallacy. They can’t go back to things being as good as they were before the war at this point and leadership feels like they can’t stop here so they wait for something to change. But nothing changes, the Russian position simply gets worse. They’re a gambler trying to win it all back and just getting further in the hole.

The cost to Europe is insignificant. That’s part of what Russians simply don’t appreciate, they don’t understand just how poor Russia is compared to the West. For example Norway by itself is capable of throwing around amounts of cash comparable to Russia’s defence budget. Russians see the strain they’re under and assume that everyone else is in a similar position but it’s simply not the case. The West is still doing peacetime spending. It reminds me of when Russia cut off German gas and gloated “what are you going to do without us, spend billions on building new gas infrastructure, buy LNG at inflated prices on the world market, and have it shipped in from Qatar?” to which Germany replies “yeah, probably” and just does it. We’re richer, and not by a little bit. Russia has never been a peer to Western Europe, that’s part of why it lashes out like this.

Even if Ukraine were as corrupt as you say (it’s not but let’s accept your premise for the sake of dismissing it), it is still worth it purely for the purpose of defanging Russia. Europe is being forced to rearm because Russia is aggressive, expansionist, and has zero concern for international law. The commitment to defend the Baltic states make Russia an expensive adversary to deter. Not because Europe can’t win but because Russia is stupid enough to start wars that it can’t win anyway.

It is considerably cheaper to pay Ukrainians to destroy Russian tanks than to build and maintain an army that would have been capable of destroying the 2021 Russian army. Corrupt or not, we can see value for money when thermal imaging satellites see Russian arms depots explode.

Russian allies and proxies worldwide are also suffering. Assad is gone, Cuba is bankrupt and without electricity, Iran can’t buy SAMs, India is buying European hardware. We’re seeing the final death of the global legacy of the USSR during this war.

Europe will happily keep funding “corrupt” Ukraine for decades if it keeps delivering the returns we’re seeing.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12320 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-10 15:10:36
2 hours ago
#17427
On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:
On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia.


Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine


They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen


Do you think that Ukraine can win this war?
Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army?
Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?


If I was Fr*nch I would be so annoyed with the fact that our nation got mocked for decades for surrendering too fast and now people are expected to accept the rule of the far right, foreign and domestic, as fast as possible everywhere

None of your questions matter at all, in the face of oppression you just keep fighting, that's how it works.
No will to live, no wish to die
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10803 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-10 15:24:07
2 hours ago
#17428
On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:
On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia.


Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine


They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen


Do you think that Ukraine can win this war?
Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army?
Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?


Do you think Russia can win this war?

If anyone has proven that it's utterly corrupt, incompetent and ruled by clowns, it's russia. The Russian military has more than proven this since the start of the 3-4 day special operation and it doesn't look much better since.
If anyones money is being burned to fuel this war, it's the russian peoples. Ruled by a so obviously corrupt elite, no one even talks about it and a people so brainwashed, they are just like "thats just how it is, allways was and is supposed to be, nothing anyone can do about".

If you think this war is an actual strain on the average europeans finances, especially since the Gas/Oil alternatives have been and will be built up, you have no clue how much poorer Russia is than the EU, let alone the richer EU countries.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8636 Posts
2 hours ago
#17429
On November 10 2025 23:12 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2025 07:50 Manit0u wrote:
https://cepa.org/article/pokrovsk-where-putin-shattered-his-teeth/

An interesting article on the tactical value of holding Pokrovsk for as long as they have and why they won't just surrender like pro-Russian pundits would like them to do.

Also, the guy who wrote this article is some certified gigachad:

Shaun Pinner is a British-born author, public speaker, and recipient of Ukraine’s Order of Courage for selfless acts in the defence of the nation’s sovereignty. A former British Army soldier with nine years in the Royal Anglian Regiment and UN service in Bosnia, he joined Ukraine’s Armed Forces in 2018, becoming the first International to command a frontline position as a Ukrainian Marine. His 2024 book Live. Fight. Survive. recounts his journey through the siege of Mariupol, his capture, torture, and death sentence by Russian proxies, and his dramatic release in a Saudi-brokered prisoner exchange. Since then, Shaun has briefed NATO forces and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) schools worldwide, spoken extensively on Ukraine’s war and resilience, and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. He continues to live in Ukraine with his wife, supporting humanitarian work and documenting the country’s fight for freedom.


Holy shit that is some Call of Duty level of Chadness. Interesting article thanks for sharing


CoD is fiction. those are the real Chads.

+1 thanks for sharing.
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-10 15:51:16
2 hours ago
#17430
There are some good news from the Pokrovsk and Kupyansk directions today.

UA managed to supply Myrnohrad with weapons and munitions, as well as perform a rotation of the troops and evacuation of the wounded. The same thing is planned for Pokrovsk.

There are also reports that UA managed to recapture most of Kupyansk.

RU has deployed 50k troops around Pokrovsk. It might seem like a lot but they've lost ~30k in this area since October.

On November 11 2025 00:14 Velr wrote:
If anyone has proven that it's utterly corrupt, incompetent and ruled by clowns, it's russia. The Russian military has more than proven this since the start of the 3-4 day special operation and it doesn't look much better since.


RU has lost more territory since their failed operation in 2022 than they've gained since.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
1 hour ago
#17431
On November 08 2025 07:50 Manit0u wrote:
https://cepa.org/article/pokrovsk-where-putin-shattered-his-teeth/

An interesting article on the tactical value of holding Pokrovsk for as long as they have and why they won't just surrender like pro-Russian pundits would like them to do.

Also, the guy who wrote this article is some certified gigachad:
Show nested quote +

Shaun Pinner is a British-born author, public speaker, and recipient of Ukraine’s Order of Courage for selfless acts in the defence of the nation’s sovereignty. A former British Army soldier with nine years in the Royal Anglian Regiment and UN service in Bosnia, he joined Ukraine’s Armed Forces in 2018, becoming the first International to command a frontline position as a Ukrainian Marine. His 2024 book Live. Fight. Survive. recounts his journey through the siege of Mariupol, his capture, torture, and death sentence by Russian proxies, and his dramatic release in a Saudi-brokered prisoner exchange. Since then, Shaun has briefed NATO forces and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) schools worldwide, spoken extensively on Ukraine’s war and resilience, and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. He continues to live in Ukraine with his wife, supporting humanitarian work and documenting the country’s fight for freedom.

Mercenary passport bro that surrendered to Russians after getting himself surrounded along with his nazi-larper friends says getting yourself surrounded and surrendering to Russians en-masse is a good thing. I forgot about this grifter, thanks for the laugh
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43209 Posts
1 hour ago
#17432
Passport bro is a derogatory term for American incels who believe that the only thing about them that could possibly be attractive to women is their citizenship and trawl southeast Asia/central America for impoverished women willing to live out their fantasy of a relationship built on power imbalance. You may be using it wrong.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
37 minutes ago
#17433
On November 11 2025 01:13 KwarK wrote:
Passport bro is a derogatory term for American incels who believe that the only thing about them that could possibly be attractive to women is their citizenship and trawl southeast Asia/central America for impoverished women willing to live out their fantasy of a relationship built on power imbalance. You may be using it wrong.

The 50-something year old Mr. Pinner that came to low income country and got married to a local woman a month or two after he got there doesn't fit your description? Weird. Must have been love.

About 3/4 of the tiktok/blogger foreign volunteers that went to Ukraine just stood around on street corners in groups wearing their tacti-cool expensive gear trying to have sex with the local women. Most of them fucked off when the AFU they started picking them up from those corners and sending them to the front. The guys that actually went there to fight hate people like Shaun more than the Russians do.

and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state.

This is why I remembered him. The 'landmark legal case' was him suing Russia in a court in Kiev and 'winning damages', amount never specified. After which he was universally ridiculed by everyone.
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