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United States43483 Posts
On November 10 2025 22:35 Velr wrote:This is maybe a dumb question but doesn't a "drone mothership" kinda defeat the prupose of using small drones in the first place? I mean, I get it if it's super stealthy but else? What does it do that any other container that drones can launch from, like the trucks Ukraine used to attack russian airbases, can't?
Drone motherships are drones because you don’t want to risk a human and motherships because you want to concentrate expensive components in a reusable part while keeping the disposable parts cheap. You don’t want a skylink terminal on the drone that explodes but you want skylink involved. With a mothership setup you can relay a series of drones off of the connection.
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On November 08 2025 07:50 Manit0u wrote:https://cepa.org/article/pokrovsk-where-putin-shattered-his-teeth/An interesting article on the tactical value of holding Pokrovsk for as long as they have and why they won't just surrender like pro-Russian pundits would like them to do. Also, the guy who wrote this article is some certified gigachad: Show nested quote +
Shaun Pinner is a British-born author, public speaker, and recipient of Ukraine’s Order of Courage for selfless acts in the defence of the nation’s sovereignty. A former British Army soldier with nine years in the Royal Anglian Regiment and UN service in Bosnia, he joined Ukraine’s Armed Forces in 2018, becoming the first International to command a frontline position as a Ukrainian Marine. His 2024 book Live. Fight. Survive. recounts his journey through the siege of Mariupol, his capture, torture, and death sentence by Russian proxies, and his dramatic release in a Saudi-brokered prisoner exchange. Since then, Shaun has briefed NATO forces and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) schools worldwide, spoken extensively on Ukraine’s war and resilience, and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. He continues to live in Ukraine with his wife, supporting humanitarian work and documenting the country’s fight for freedom.
Holy shit that is some Call of Duty level of Chadness. Interesting article thanks for sharing
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Russian Federation188 Posts
On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia. Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen
Do you think that Ukraine can win this war?
Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army?
Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?
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On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia. Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen Do you think that Ukraine can win this war? Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army? Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?
You should look up what "pyrrhic victory" means and then ask your questions again.
Or do you consider the current state of affairs to be acceptable for Russia after almost 4 years of a "special military operation" that was supposed to last less than a week?
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I love the fueling the war argument. Imagine the mental state needed to ignore the part that the war is taking place on Ukrainian territory or the part that most of the deaths happen during Russian attacks on Ukrainian positions.
Made up claims about von der Leyen or Zelensky are a cherry on top considering we can read news like this or this every second month.
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United States43483 Posts
On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia. Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen Do you think that Ukraine can win this war? Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army? Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?
Yes, Ukraine can win. It wins every day by continuing to exist as an independent state. Russia has no means of ending Ukrainian resistance and so Ukraine will continue to win indefinitely.
Russia has already lost (per the stated war aims around rearmament and NATO expansion) but is stuck in pure sunk cost fallacy. They can’t go back to things being as good as they were before the war at this point and leadership feels like they can’t stop here so they wait for something to change. But nothing changes, the Russian position simply gets worse. They’re a gambler trying to win it all back and just getting further in the hole.
The cost to Europe is insignificant. That’s part of what Russians simply don’t appreciate, they don’t understand just how poor Russia is compared to the West. For example Norway by itself is capable of throwing around amounts of cash comparable to Russia’s defence budget. Russians see the strain they’re under and assume that everyone else is in a similar position but it’s simply not the case. The West is still doing peacetime spending. It reminds me of when Russia cut off German gas and gloated “what are you going to do without us, spend billions on building new gas infrastructure, buy LNG at inflated prices on the world market, and have it shipped in from Qatar?” to which Germany replies “yeah, probably” and just does it. We’re richer, and not by a little bit. Russia has never been a peer to Western Europe, that’s part of why it lashes out like this.
Even if Ukraine were as corrupt as you say (it’s not but let’s accept your premise for the sake of dismissing it), it is still worth it purely for the purpose of defanging Russia. Europe is being forced to rearm because Russia is aggressive, expansionist, and has zero concern for international law. The commitment to defend the Baltic states make Russia an expensive adversary to deter. Not because Europe can’t win but because Russia is stupid enough to start wars that it can’t win anyway.
It is considerably cheaper to pay Ukrainians to destroy Russian tanks than to build and maintain an army that would have been capable of destroying the 2021 Russian army. Corrupt or not, we can see value for money when thermal imaging satellites see Russian arms depots explode.
Russian allies and proxies worldwide are also suffering. Assad is gone, Cuba is bankrupt and without electricity, Iran can’t buy SAMs, India is buying European hardware. We’re seeing the final death of the global legacy of the USSR during this war.
Europe will happily keep funding “corrupt” Ukraine for decades if it keeps delivering the returns we’re seeing.
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On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia. Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen Do you think that Ukraine can win this war? Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army? Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?
If I was Fr*nch I would be so annoyed with the fact that our nation got mocked for decades for surrendering too fast and now people are expected to accept the rule of the far right, foreign and domestic, as fast as possible everywhere
None of your questions matter at all, in the face of oppression you just keep fighting, that's how it works.
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On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia. Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen Do you think that Ukraine can win this war? Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army? Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president?
Do you think Russia can win this war?
If anyone has proven that it's utterly corrupt, incompetent and ruled by clowns, it's russia. The Russian military has more than proven this since the start of the 3-4 day special operation and it doesn't look much better since.
If anyones money is being burned to fuel this war, it's the russian peoples. Ruled by a so obviously corrupt elite, no one even talks about it and a people so brainwashed, they are just like "thats just how it is, allways was and is supposed to be, nothing anyone can do about".
If you think this war is an actual strain on the average europeans finances, especially since the Gas/Oil alternatives have been and will be built up, you have no clue how much poorer Russia is than the EU, let alone the richer EU countries.
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On November 10 2025 23:12 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2025 07:50 Manit0u wrote:https://cepa.org/article/pokrovsk-where-putin-shattered-his-teeth/An interesting article on the tactical value of holding Pokrovsk for as long as they have and why they won't just surrender like pro-Russian pundits would like them to do. Also, the guy who wrote this article is some certified gigachad:
Shaun Pinner is a British-born author, public speaker, and recipient of Ukraine’s Order of Courage for selfless acts in the defence of the nation’s sovereignty. A former British Army soldier with nine years in the Royal Anglian Regiment and UN service in Bosnia, he joined Ukraine’s Armed Forces in 2018, becoming the first International to command a frontline position as a Ukrainian Marine. His 2024 book Live. Fight. Survive. recounts his journey through the siege of Mariupol, his capture, torture, and death sentence by Russian proxies, and his dramatic release in a Saudi-brokered prisoner exchange. Since then, Shaun has briefed NATO forces and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) schools worldwide, spoken extensively on Ukraine’s war and resilience, and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. He continues to live in Ukraine with his wife, supporting humanitarian work and documenting the country’s fight for freedom.
Holy shit that is some Call of Duty level of Chadness. Interesting article thanks for sharing
CoD is fiction. those are the real Chads.
+1 thanks for sharing.
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There are some good news from the Pokrovsk and Kupyansk directions today.
UA managed to supply Myrnohrad with weapons and munitions, as well as perform a rotation of the troops and evacuation of the wounded. The same thing is planned for Pokrovsk.
There are also reports that UA managed to recapture most of Kupyansk.
RU has deployed 50k troops around Pokrovsk. It might seem like a lot but they've lost ~30k in this area since October.
On November 11 2025 00:14 Velr wrote:
If anyone has proven that it's utterly corrupt, incompetent and ruled by clowns, it's russia. The Russian military has more than proven this since the start of the 3-4 day special operation and it doesn't look much better since.
RU has lost more territory since their failed operation in 2022 than they've gained since.
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On November 08 2025 07:50 Manit0u wrote:https://cepa.org/article/pokrovsk-where-putin-shattered-his-teeth/An interesting article on the tactical value of holding Pokrovsk for as long as they have and why they won't just surrender like pro-Russian pundits would like them to do. Also, the guy who wrote this article is some certified gigachad: Show nested quote +
Shaun Pinner is a British-born author, public speaker, and recipient of Ukraine’s Order of Courage for selfless acts in the defence of the nation’s sovereignty. A former British Army soldier with nine years in the Royal Anglian Regiment and UN service in Bosnia, he joined Ukraine’s Armed Forces in 2018, becoming the first International to command a frontline position as a Ukrainian Marine. His 2024 book Live. Fight. Survive. recounts his journey through the siege of Mariupol, his capture, torture, and death sentence by Russian proxies, and his dramatic release in a Saudi-brokered prisoner exchange. Since then, Shaun has briefed NATO forces and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) schools worldwide, spoken extensively on Ukraine’s war and resilience, and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. He continues to live in Ukraine with his wife, supporting humanitarian work and documenting the country’s fight for freedom.
Mercenary passport bro that surrendered to Russians after getting himself surrounded along with his nazi-larper friends says getting yourself surrounded and surrendering to Russians en-masse is a good thing. I forgot about this grifter, thanks for the laugh 
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United States43483 Posts
Passport bro is a derogatory term for American incels who believe that the only thing about them that could possibly be attractive to women is their citizenship and trawl southeast Asia/central America for impoverished women willing to live out their fantasy of a relationship built on power imbalance. You may be using it wrong.
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On November 11 2025 01:13 KwarK wrote:
Passport bro is a derogatory term for American incels who believe that the only thing about them that could possibly be attractive to women is their citizenship and trawl southeast Asia/central America for impoverished women willing to live out their fantasy of a relationship built on power imbalance. You may be using it wrong.
The 50-something year old Mr. Pinner that came to low income country and got married to a local woman a month or two after he got there doesn't fit your description? Weird. Must have been love.
About 3/4 of the tiktok/blogger foreign volunteers that went to Ukraine just stood around on street corners in groups wearing their tacti-cool expensive gear trying to have sex with the local women. Most of them fucked off when the AFU they started picking them up from those corners and sending them to the front. The guys that actually went there to fight hate people like Shaun more than the Russians do.
and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state.
This is why I remembered him. The 'landmark legal case' was him suing Russia in a court in Kiev and 'winning damages', amount never specified. After which he was universally ridiculed by everyone.
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Finland956 Posts
On November 11 2025 00:14 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia. Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen Do you think that Ukraine can win this war? Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army? Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president? Do you think Russia can win this war?
I think this is a pretty good question. What's Russia's actual win condition here? How many times has that win condition changed? Is there a scenario where Russia will say that it's been defeated?
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On November 11 2025 02:16 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2025 01:13 KwarK wrote:
Passport bro is a derogatory term for American incels who believe that the only thing about them that could possibly be attractive to women is their citizenship and trawl southeast Asia/central America for impoverished women willing to live out their fantasy of a relationship built on power imbalance. You may be using it wrong. The 50-something year old Mr. Pinner that came to low income country and got married to a local woman a month or two after he got there doesn't fit your description? Weird. Must have been love. About 3/4 of the tiktok/blogger foreign volunteers that went to Ukraine just stood around on street corners in groups wearing their tacti-cool expensive gear trying to have sex with the local women. Most of them fucked off when the AFU they started picking them up from those corners and sending them to the front. The guys that actually went there to fight hate people like Shaun more than the Russians do. and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. This is why I remembered him. The 'landmark legal case' was him suing Russia in a court in Kiev and 'winning damages', amount never specified. After which he was universally ridiculed by everyone.
Yeah, and do those tiktokers stay in Ukraine and fight there for many years as squad leaders and get awarded medals?
And the landmark case was the one where Russia accused him and 2 other soldiers of acts of terrorism for fighting along the Ukrainians and sentenced them to death, violating the Geneva convention and European Court of Human Rights accords (at the time Russia was a part of this court but they withdrew after that). And it wasn't in Kiev, he won this case while being a Russian prisoner.
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On November 11 2025 04:05 hexhaven wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2025 00:14 Velr wrote:On November 10 2025 23:27 EEk1TwEEk wrote:On November 07 2025 21:34 Excludos wrote:On November 07 2025 16:29 EEk1TwEEk wrote:Maybe Russia should invade Russia to protect those Russians from Russia. Don't know about that, but Germany should definetely send more money to Ukraine They should, just unsarcastically. What Ukraine has been able to do with the support from the west is mind boggling, and no matter the outcome of the war will go down in history as one of the greatest feats of defensive warfare ever seen Do you think that Ukraine can win this war? Do you think that 100% of money sent and money spent goes to ukranian army? Why are you fueling the war more and more, this is your money btw, money of people who pay taxes in EU. Do you consider a situation where Ursula and her friends have some benefits from sending your money to support a losing war of a corrupt state with a clown being a president? Do you think Russia can win this war? I think this is a pretty good question. What's Russia's actual win condition here? How many times has that win condition changed? Is there a scenario where Russia will say that it's been defeated?
I don't think Russia can ever admit defeat. That would probably be the end of Putin and his grandiose dreams of restoring USSR.
As to the win condition it's kinda debatable. Capturing all of Donetsk and Luhansk would be like a minimum viable thing for Russia to withdraw and say they actually managed to accomplish something (pyrrhic victory).
The only actual win condition for Russia is to erase Ukraine entirely and exterminate all of its people. They had their chance of capturing Ukraine when they attacked and Ukraine was disorganized and almost fell. Now that the fighting has been going so long I don't think they can achieve it. Just capturing Ukraine won't be enough because they've been fighting for so long that there's plenty of hardened veterans and a lot of resentment there and Russia can't really afford to have an uprising so they can't leave anyone that would be capable of doing that.
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I find it very funny how brave and badass this Zeo guy is behind his keyboard, armed to the teeth with propaganda and bullshit, ready to throw out his cutting edge emojis of doom to show how pathetic these guys who had the balls to go to fight what they believe in are.
All in service of his parasocial "great power" fantasies of Putin and Vučić getting on the top of the world with their combined GDP of 2.2 T, or a bit less then Italy, a known economic super power.
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United States43483 Posts
On November 11 2025 02:16 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2025 01:13 KwarK wrote:
Passport bro is a derogatory term for American incels who believe that the only thing about them that could possibly be attractive to women is their citizenship and trawl southeast Asia/central America for impoverished women willing to live out their fantasy of a relationship built on power imbalance. You may be using it wrong. The 50-something year old Mr. Pinner that came to low income country and got married to a local woman a month or two after he got there doesn't fit your description? Weird. Must have been love. About 3/4 of the tiktok/blogger foreign volunteers that went to Ukraine just stood around on street corners in groups wearing their tacti-cool expensive gear trying to have sex with the local women. Most of them fucked off when the AFU they started picking them up from those corners and sending them to the front. The guys that actually went there to fight hate people like Shaun more than the Russians do. and won a landmark legal case against the Russian state. This is why I remembered him. The 'landmark legal case' was him suing Russia in a court in Kiev and 'winning damages', amount never specified. After which he was universally ridiculed by everyone.
A passport bro gets the girl by dangling life in the USA in front of someone. Then they get the green card and return home with their bangmaid who they threaten with deportion. They buy the girl with the life in the USA. Staying in the poor country and joining their army is not passport bro.
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On November 10 2025 22:25 Jankisa wrote:
The means Ukrainans use to shoot down drones vary from WW2 era bi-planes , shotgun drones, manpads, helicopters, F-16 aircraft, German Gepards and many, many other systems.
The missiles, depending on the type usually get shoot down by interceptors from Patriot and S-300 systems, with some European tech mixed in.
I initially read that as "German Shepards" and got concerned.
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On November 10 2025 22:35 Velr wrote:This is maybe a dumb question but doesn't a "drone mothership" kinda defeat the prupose of using small drones in the first place? I mean, I get it if it's super stealthy but else? What does it do that any other container that drones can launch from, like the trucks Ukraine used to attack russian airbases, can't?
Plenty of advantages.
With air superiority, you can have much quicker and accurate location to deploy the drones, for different purposes.
And it cost significantly more to intercept air than land.
Just imagine the amount of utilities it can do, China is already mass deploying drones to clean solar panels, fire fighting and delivery. All of these data and deployment experience, with its rapid r&d is going to be game changing.
Shame it's yet another thing Europe is falling behind and left is protesting against Palantir etc for using AI and data in war.
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