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On November 12 2025 22:28 zeo wrote:They are just getting public opinion ready for the mobilization age to be lowered even further from 25 to 22. Weather the guys getting snatched off the street will do anything besides deserting at the first possible chance is besides the point. The trends are going exponential. Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 22:13 Manit0u wrote:Also, this article is not only paid but kinda bullshit: ”The result is that the land forces are not expanding but are actually declining in numbers… The Ukrainian force density is already so low that there are parts of the front that are essentially only guarded by drones.” I'm pretty sure it's impossible to have fully staffed frontline that's 1.6k km long and neither Ukraine, nor Russia have it all covered. Also, the previous reports directly from Ukraine said they have enough men but not enough stuff to equip them all so it's rather an equipment problem than manpower problem. Literally every single shred of news coming out of Ukraine over the last year points to the complete opposite but seeing your other posts over the last few pages Russophrenia got you hard man. Stay safe.
If they really needed more men they could lower the mobilization age down to 18, like Russia. They lowered it from 27 to 25 on the insistence of the US (and still some below 27 are exempt from mobilization).
But this has been a situation for a very long time now:
Ukraine: Please give us more equipment, our dudes are under-equipped for this war.
US: You need more men.
Ukraine: Even if we need more men, we can't equip more men so we can't get more. Please give us equipment.
US: Get more men, we're not giving you more equipment.
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United States43218 Posts
That isn’t incompatible with his point. If you’re on the front then you might describe the problem as a shortage of armed men. If you’re responsible for providing armed men then you might be able to find men but not arms for them. That doesn’t mean either person is lying, they’re just looking at different parts. A shortage of armed trained equipped men is called a manpower crisis but it doesn’t mean the bottleneck is specifically lack of men. Or that lack of men is the only problem.
Ukraine’s equipment park is roughly where it was at the start of the war in terms of tanks, IFVs, artillery, and so forth. But it’s military has grown hugely. That means you have nominally armoured battalions that are under strength in real terms. They lack the equipment to properly fill them out. Ukraine’s combat power could be increased very significantly without adding extra personnel if the existing battalions were equipped to the levels NATO countries view as the minimum for combat effectiveness.
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Russian Federation612 Posts
On November 13 2025 04:26 KwarK wrote:That isn’t incompatible with his point. If you’re on the front then you might describe the problem as a shortage of armed men. If you’re responsible for providing armed men then you might be able to find men but not arms for them. That doesn’t mean either person is lying, they’re just looking at different parts. A shortage of armed trained equipped men is called a manpower crisis but it doesn’t mean the bottleneck is specifically lack of men. Or that lack of men is the only problem. Ukraine’s equipment park is roughly where it was at the start of the war in terms of tanks, IFVs, artillery, and so forth. But it’s military has grown hugely. That means you have nominally armoured battalions that are under strength in real terms. They lack the equipment to properly fill them out. Ukraine’s combat power could be increased very significantly without adding extra personnel if the existing battalions were equipped to the levels NATO countries view as the minimum for combat effectiveness.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/21/ukraine-faces-difficult-decisions-over-acute-shortage-of-frontline-troops
"Two sources in air defence units told the Guardian the deficit at the front has become so acute that the general staff has ordered already-depleted air defence units to free up more men to send to the front as infantry.
“It’s reaching a critical level where we can’t be sure that air defence can function properly,” said one of the sources, saying he had been prompted to speak out by a fear that the situation was a risk to Ukraine’s security."
https://kyivindependent.com/more-than-tomahawks-what-ukraines-military-says-it-actually-needs/
While the Ukrainian military also lacks prestigious Western-supplied weapons and equipment, soldiers and commanders say the shortage of basic resources — from cars to drones and people — makes it extremely difficult to hold back the relentless Russian offensives.
https://www.iiss.org/online-analysis/military-balance/2025/02/combat-losses-and-manpower-challenges-underscore-the-importance-of-mass-in-ukraine/
"Ukraine’s armed forces are not currently facing a critical situation with regards to equipment; however, they will likely need significantly more weapons, especially modern Western-made systems, to reliably stop Russian assaults."
Also country without manpower shortages generally doesn't resort to this.
https://busification.org/?lang=en
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