EPTRussia doesn’t seem to directly benefit but I would have thought they would be much better served bombing other pipelines to force Nordstream into use and lifting of sanctions.
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 250
| Forum Index > General Forum |
NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets. Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source. | ||
|
Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Russia doesn’t seem to directly benefit but I would have thought they would be much better served bombing other pipelines to force Nordstream into use and lifting of sanctions. | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands21367 Posts
| ||
|
maybenexttime
Poland5445 Posts
| ||
|
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On September 29 2022 22:15 maybenexttime wrote: There are rumours that Belarus is planning to join the war: https://twitter.com/PavelLatushka/status/1575450978685444104 https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1575472167201931264 That would be a gift to Ukraine as the Military of Belarus has made clear they will not be 100% pro war.... that how will Belarus not have the same outcome that Russia had? Unless they have more modern forces, which I find hard to believe. | ||
|
Simberto
Germany11337 Posts
Though i guess Lukaschenka only rules due to Putins support. | ||
|
Ardias
Russian Federation605 Posts
Well, here are the photos of the Russian BTR-82 turret somewhere in Ukraine + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4abdf675e84aa02bc5f520e92031a29c99ade07146816c65dcdc1949f4d86d9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/577039dc94867e93d4f4de8040fada0af532b33987316c0c6bf53630f07ba581.jpg) Transcript: "Страдание наша молитва. Вера наша броня" "Во тьме среди звезд нет спасения слабым и неверующим" Translation: "Suffering is our prayer. Faith is our armor" "In the darkness among the stars there is no salvation for the weak and unbelieving" | ||
|
maybenexttime
Poland5445 Posts
@Simberto & CB If the rumours are true, I'm guessing Putin gave Lukashenko an ultimatum: either we send our troops to Ukraine together or I'm sending my newly mobilised troops into Belarus and take over. | ||
|
Sbrubbles
Brazil5775 Posts
| ||
|
pmh
1351 Posts
On September 29 2022 19:51 maybenexttime wrote: That website is full of Kremlin propaganda. Can you access any website ending with ".ua"? Maybe it's a blanket ban. The link i got from reddit wordnews. Reddit does not allow Russian propaganda websites to be linked i think? Either way,i dont think this site is a great source so i wont linkt it again. | ||
|
maybenexttime
Poland5445 Posts
| ||
|
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
| ||
|
maybenexttime
Poland5445 Posts
| ||
|
Taelshin
Canada415 Posts
| ||
|
Sermokala
United States13750 Posts
On September 29 2022 15:19 mounteast0 wrote: Is there anything to support the bold part? I genuine do not have a clue on this one. I am not that naive to believe that Putin have no enemy in Russia or no one is want to eye for his position, but Putin will have to be really desperate to do that. Even though I believe there is "easier" solution to potential coup. But I might be missing something. No one knows anything but It seems like the most credible theory. Anyone coupling Putin will be able to use turning the pipe back on as a way to pay off any dissidents or to stabilize the economy. Taking away that option means one less thing any coup attempt could use to gain support. Beacuse I can get that using it as a threat to the norway-poland gas pipe that just went online a week ago, NS1 isn't in use and wouldn't be an active attack to the gas situation, but NS1 was the whole shitck that russia was going to use to blackmail a theoretical Europe that freezes in winter. If Putin was couped and the people who did it offered to reopen the tap in exchange for a ceasefire/withdrawl and a peace conference to decide the issue diplomatically you know Germany would do it in a second. | ||
|
Taelshin
Canada415 Posts
| ||
|
r00ty
Germany1037 Posts
A complete flooding of seawater is corroding the inner coating too quickly. Most likely the pipelines can't be repaired. Eine Reparatur der Pipeline wird in Sicherheitskreisen mittlerweile als sehr unwahrscheinlich bezeichnet. Da die beschädigten Röhren derzeit mit Meerwasser vollliefen, korrodiere die spezielle Innenbeschichtung sehr schnell, hieß es in Berlin. Wenn die Röhren einmal geflutet seien, so die Analyse, sei die Pipeline nicht mehr zum Durchleiten von Gas zu verwenden. www.spiegel.de | ||
|
Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On September 29 2022 21:02 Gorsameth wrote: bombing other pipelines would be a major escalation from Russia. It would be a much more direct attack against the West then anything they have done before. Sure, but you can understand a gamble that with some form of plausible deniability that the west isn’t going to get militarily involved as a response. If Putin desperately needed the money from more gas sales I can imagine it’s a gamble he would take, but I don’t get bombing Nordstream. | ||
|
Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
We're probably going to see the 300k soldiers march to war sooner than later to make something happens before that. | ||
|
schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On September 30 2022 01:59 r00ty wrote: Nordstream might be gone for good. Holy... A complete flooding of seawater is corroding the inner coating too quickly. Most likely the pipelines can't be repaired. www.spiegel.de 10 billion euros and 3 years of building through the Baltic Sea.... oof. | ||
|
Sermokala
United States13750 Posts
On September 30 2022 01:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Keep in mind S. Korea already has to replenish Tanks for Poland etc. Along with other armaments. So what this will consist of is anyone's guess. https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1575508099040960514 South Korea low key has been having a thriving defence industry recently. They make a lot of heavy vehicles that compete directly against American products. That the US is funding them like this is a MASSIVE deal. | ||
| ||
