Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 183

On August 06 2022 17:53 JimmiC wrote:

Have you ever considered that the way people do not understand you, you do not understand them? Almost no one believes Russia attacked for any of their stated reasons. People are trying to explain to the one guy who does, or is trolling, why those reasons are BS.

On August 07 2022 03:08 maybenexttime wrote:

Why are you shitting up the thread? It's already been debunked so many times.

NATO has not once threatened Russia with military force, let alone with nuclear weapons. Russia, on the other hand, routinely threatens NATO with military force, violates the airspace of NATO countries, as well as the airspace of Sweden and Finland. It has also threatened NATO with nuclear strikes in case of NATO intervention in Ukraine. NATO has not moved its nuclear weapons closer to Russia in decades. Russia, on the other hand, deployed nuclear weapons in Kaliningrad and plans to deploy them in Belarus.

Russia's reaction to Finland joining the alliance shows that Russia is not really afraid of a NATO invasion/attack. It's an excuse meant to fool stupid people. Are you an idiot or a troll?

On August 07 2022 03:45 xM(Z wrote:
i don't know what world you're living in but a lot of lefties, western lefties, are giving Putin a lot of leeway for his invasion by using NATO expansion as a valid/justified cause for it.

On August 07 2022 04:53 maybenexttime wrote:

Never said any such thing. Learn to read. Excuse as in false reason.

There is no "cause consequence" relationship to point out. As I already explained, there is ample evidence that Russia is genuinely not afraid of any NATO attack so Ukraine trying to join NATO was not the trigger.

On the night of 7 August, the Ukrainian Armed Forces struck the points of temporary deployment of Russian troops at industrial facilities in Melitopol [a city in southern Ukraine, in Zaporizhzhia Oblast which has been occupied by Russia – ed.] using HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket System).

"Last night, high-precision HIMARS rockets struck the points of temporary deployment of the Russian occupying forces at industrial facilities in several of Melitopol’s districts, causing fire damage.

Early reports indicate that a large amount of [Russian] military equipment has been destroyed. Over 100 Russian soldiers who were spending the night in temporary barracks [at those sites] received their tickets to Iosif Kobzon’s concert [i.e., were killed; Iosif Kobzon was a Russian singer who has become a symbol of an outdated Soviet aesthetic; he died in 2018 - ed.]; their parents are already selecting the make and colour of their Lada cars [referring to an interview with a grieving mother and father who proudly bought a new Lada car with the "coffin money" given to them after their son was killed in Ukraine. The interview was broadcast on Russia-1 as part of a propaganda package on how the Kremlin helps families of dead soldiers – ed.]."

Fedorov said that Russian forces had transferred a significant portion of their air defence systems from Melitopol to Kherson last week.

The mayor added that last night was the most productive one for the Ukrainian troops in the region; Russian air defence systems are no longer capable of withstanding the Ukrainian HIMARS attacks.

He believes that this creates favourable grounds for a successful counteroffensive on the Melitopol front.

Finland will send approximately 20 service personnel to the United Kingdom to take part in a training programme for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The training programme is led by the UK, which has asked partner nations for support. According to the UK, the aim of the programme is to provide basic soldier training to as many as 10,000 Ukrainian volunteers. The programme will take place during this year.