EPTDriving anything over this, even light cars, will be risky, though.
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Silvanel
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Driving anything over this, even light cars, will be risky, though. | ||
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Harris1st
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On August 08 2022 23:08 Silvanel wrote: My guess is: they put some steel sheet inside the holes, possibly welded them to the rods and poured asphalt over those. At least that's what I would do if they put a gun to my head and said, "You have 4 hours to fix this". I am not a civil engineer, though. Driving anything over this, even light cars, will be risky, though. Steelbars and concrete would be my guess. I doesn't have to be even or comfortable. Apshalt is way to soft to roll a bunch of tanks over it. The real challenge is to get stable formwork under the hole to pour the concrete in but it can be done. | ||
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Amui
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On August 08 2022 23:56 Harris1st wrote: Steelbars and concrete would be my guess. I doesn't have to be even or comfortable. Apshalt is way to soft to roll a bunch of tanks over it. The real challenge is to get stable formwork under the hole to pour the concrete in but it can be done. As long as the bridge structure (the road isn't directly intended to be structural, it just transfers load to the support beams) is intact, it's not going to just fall. They have some of the highest factors of safety of anything we build, typically around the 4-6 range depending on where you are in the world. If those support structures aren't badly compromised, they should be fine even driving tanks over it if the roadworks are done properly. It's going to need a ton of work to fully repair it for full traffic loads for the next 20 years, but if you send a truck or tank over every 20-30 seconds for a few weeks, it shouldn't be an issue. | ||
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Harris1st
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On August 09 2022 18:49 Manit0u wrote: The "heavy" use of artilley directly contradicts the guys in the Phz2000 video. And it really wouldn't make sense anymore since heavy use kinda means you have a target on your back for Phz2000 to crush. If I were to live in Russia near the border, I would be thinking about packing my bags sooner rather than later | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Silvanel
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On August 09 2022 20:31 Harris1st wrote: The "heavy" use of artilley directly contradicts the guys in the Phz2000 video. And it really wouldn't make sense anymore since heavy use kinda means you have a target on your back for Phz2000 to crush. If I were to live in Russia near the border, I would be thinking about packing my bags sooner rather than later Russians used to fire about 60k shells a day in Donbas/Luhansk. That is a staggering amount. Since introduction of HIMARS and shifting of resources towards Chersoń it somewhat lower, but still a lot. This is what intelligence and official sources report. I wouldn't take a word from people on the ground contradicting analysts, since people on the ground see only small part of the whole picture. Context on 60k shells number - PZH 2000 after firing 100 shells a day for a month needs a maintenance/fixing/replacement of loading mechanism. | ||
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Magic Powers
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A nun explains that a man was shot for choosing to speak Ukraine instead of Russian. She says that "they" want to erase Ukraine and its people (not sure who exactly "they" are, the context is missing, but I assume she means Putin and his supporters). Edit: probably not a nun, but doesn't really change anything. Maybe the people working at Amnesty International who published their condemnation of Ukraine's war tactics should've made the small effort to look at reports similar to this one before doubling down on their unsolicited advice. Maybe it'd help them understand how additional context can change everything. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Apparently Russia lost over 300 soldiers in combat, yesterday. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
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On August 09 2022 22:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Apparently hit a Airbase.... in Crimea. https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1556986182743248896 The analysis and sources from Michael Weiss suggests this likely means Ukraine has access to long-range missiles that can travel 200-300km. This is despite the U.S. claiming they would only send missiles that have a range of around 70km. | ||
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Manit0u
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On August 09 2022 22:51 Silvanel wrote: Context on 60k shells number - PZH 2000 after firing 100 shells a day for a month needs a maintenance/fixing/replacement of loading mechanism. Don't forget that most artillery pieces also need to have their barrels replaced after firing about 40k rounds. | ||
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Gorsameth
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On August 09 2022 23:19 Magic Powers wrote:Maybe the people working at Amnesty International who published their condemnation of Ukraine's war tactics should've made the small effort to look at reports similar to this one before doubling down on their unsolicited advice. Maybe it'd help them understand how additional context can change everything. I agree the report was silly and tone deaf but Russia committing war crimes doesn't mean Ukraine can't be criticised for endangering civilians. | ||
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Magic Powers
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On August 10 2022 00:21 Gorsameth wrote: I agree the report was silly and tone deaf but Russia committing war crimes doesn't mean Ukraine can't be criticised for endangering civilians. Amnesty International (presumably a different branch/group) has accused Russia of war crimes and strong disregard for the safety of Ukrainian civilians. In that context the condemnation of Ukrainian war tactics by the other group of AI makes little to no sense. "Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is an act of aggression that has unleashed the gravest human rights and refugee crisis in Europe since World War Two. Amnesty International is documenting serious violations of international humanitarian and human rights law, including the unlawful killing and injury of civilians, destruction of infrastructure, and blocking of desperately needed aid for civilians. Attacks on hospitals and schools, employing “surrender or starve” sieges on civilians, the use of banned weapons such as cluster munitions, and strikes on populated areas using inaccurate weapons may constitute war crimes." https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/ | ||
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Silvanel
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On August 10 2022 00:19 Manit0u wrote: Don't forget that most artillery pieces also need to have their barrels replaced after firing about 40k rounds. More like 4k (and that's a lot). NATO standard 155mm barrels have a lifespan of 1500 EFC (shots with full charge). More if they don't shoot at full range. BTW remember the tweet about uneven Russian barrel? Look at the picture in this link: www.quora.com | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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KwarK
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On August 10 2022 00:19 Manit0u wrote: Don't forget that most artillery pieces also need to have their barrels replaced after firing about 40k rounds. Isn’t that only if you care what you hit? | ||
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