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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17740 Posts
21 hours ago
#18521
Damn, it's kinda scary what's going on in Tuapse. I'm happy that Ukrainians managed to strike a significant blow to the Russian machine but the environmental impact on that will be massive.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11820 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-29 11:16:20
20 hours ago
#18522
On April 29 2026 19:10 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, it's kinda scary what's going on in Tuapse. I'm happy that Ukrainians managed to strike a significant blow to the Russian machine but the environmental impact on that will be massive.


For the environment, it doesn't really matter overall if the oil burns now in Russia or later somewhere else in a car or power plant.

You may have some local effects, but globally it is all the same. And if you don't want local effects from your stuff burning, maybe don't invade other countries.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5807 Posts
19 hours ago
#18523
There are filters. Right now it's burning without filters. Also, it's not burning completely. I think this may be worse than if it were burned in an internal combustion engine.

Either way, what Ukraine is doing is necessary for their survival as a country. All blame is on Russia. These are valid military targets.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17740 Posts
19 hours ago
#18524
On April 29 2026 21:22 maybenexttime wrote:
There are filters. Right now it's burning without filters. Also, it's not burning completely. I think this may be worse than if it were burned in an internal combustion engine.

Either way, what Ukraine is doing is necessary for their survival as a country. All blame is on Russia. These are valid military targets.


It's not just a question of burning. Whole coastline is covered in oil and mazut, it's leaking kilometers out into the sea and into the local rivers. They even have oil in the rain...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1683 Posts
18 hours ago
#18525
This is certainly a lot worse than burning in some car engine or any engine for that matter. But it is also a drop in the bucket in this war (or any war) when it comes to ecological destruction. As mentioned Ukraine has to do whatever it takes and then we will all have to help with the massive cleanup when it’s over.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17740 Posts
10 hours ago
#18526
Just to be clear. I'm not condemning Ukraine for doing it, I applaud them. I just wanted to point out that war - especially on such a large scale - has a pretty significant impact on the environment in addition to human lives and psyches.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1683 Posts
10 hours ago
#18527
I get that. It is super frustrating to see so much of the good work involving the world be undone by a guy who sees himself as above everyone else. He’s leaving the people of Russia (who are left after) a massive bill they will be paying for generations. And an environmental bill the entire world will be forced to pay.

Regardless of who drops the bomb, drives the tank , flys the jet or whatever. The blame for all this rests squarely on Russian leaderships shoulders.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12711 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-29 22:47:22
9 hours ago
#18528
I am all for it. Any strike against inland Russia's key infrastructure is a good thing. Expensive for russia in both censorship and clean up.
They need to be reminded ukraine can do damage directly and they can't be allowed to only think about the front line.

I have also just learnt Taiwan is now a major supply chain for ukraine drones, both in chips and drones, while russia is heavily dependent on China.

Good thing is the US has production capability domestically through TSM local factory , even though it's producing even more advanced 4nm chips than 6nm currently used in war.

I am just concerned how advanced Chinese drones are, russia is using mostly commercial level Chinese chips, and china is no doubt quite ahead in mass producing complex machine parts
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