Long Story short, This is my grandma\'s house shes sick right now in the hospital with a stomache problem. My Loving Aunt and Uncle decided a few days ago we were going to have a \'family talk\' today at 8 am.
So the \'family talk\' is basically them 2 just yelling at us, telling my sister, her BF, their baby, and I (and my mom and her BF who aren't here for this) that we need to leave by September 1st. Why the hell did this have to be done at 8am on a Sat. and not a week ago? Why do we even need to discuss this like this anyways, why not just tell us when you told us to come to this meeting?
I don\'t pay rent here but I do whatever anyone asks me to do around the house aside from shit I normally do like yardwork, clean the pool, trash, buy groceries (that I never even eat), etc. I\'ve been doing yardwork around here even when I didn\'t live here. Been doing it for like the passed 5 years, only lived here for about a year.
The \'Family talk\' consisted of my uncle calling us lazy and saying we don\'t do shit or pay rent. I told how the fuck do you know you are never even here. And he basically called me a liar. He also said that she is not coming home with anyone in the house so if she comes home tomorrow we got to be out today.
Anyways I have a week to get all my shit out of the house and find a place to live. I have $263.01 in the bank, no car (I drive mom\'s BF\'s van). Which is part of the reason why I don\'t pay any rent, I\'m saving for a car among other things like MOVING OUT OF HERE. Which now I cannot do because I\'m gonna have to fucking pinch every penny for food, rent, and other fun things that life requires.
My GF has been a bitch lately and I don\'t know if she would let me stay with her. Even if she does I don\'t know what I\'m gonna do with all my stuff. I had just recently signed up for cable internet contract and Blockbuster online thing too, which I'm going to have to deal with.
As many of you may know I just built a new computer and I had just signed up for the cable internet. My next step in my plan was to save up another $600 and do the deposit on Full Tilt and start playing poker so I could buy a car and move out etc. But this plan has been obviously ruined.
On top of all this my boss has been planning to close down the store I work at since last summer and turning it into something else. This job just makes me enough money to buy basic shit like food and gas with a couple hundred to save every month. So I might be out of a job too.
Not sure what you were expecting, but all I have to say is...you seriously have a shitty aunt and uncle, hope everything can somehow turn out for the better in the future.
Also, if this is your grandma's house, can your aunt and uncle legally kick you guys out? Or is the house under their name as well? Or is your grandma going along with this as well? If the answer to both of those is no, I don't think they're able to just kick you out like that. Then again I'm no lawyer and I'm just speaking out of my ass.
Oh yea, and my uncle tried to lay a guilt trip on us like its our fault shes sick and I asked so who is going to take care of her when she comes back? and he had the audacity to say that doesn't concern me? Wtf I see her more often than he does.
edit - Falcynn, I wasn't expecting anything really just trying to vent. And yea I'm assuming my grandma is behind this because she is just as conniving as they are and she doesn't say anything ever to anyone directly. Shes like a dictator and has people do her dirty work. Still though, a week? seriously.
I feel for you. Same thing happened to me this summer... my land lady kicked me out, and I had two weeks to find a new place with very little money. You'll find something, though, I'm sure. Maybe sell some stuff to make some quick cash and make moving easier?
I don't understand, whose house is this ? Your grandma's or your uncle's/aunt's ? I mean, why should it be their call and not your grandma's ? And what about your mother, doesn't she have a right to say anything ?
Thats the funny thing, My mom has been taking care of my grandma and grandpa (RIP) for like the passed 9 years. Then my gramma gets real sick and they decide to boot everyone. It doesn't even make sense why would they kick out her sole caretaker? They never come around to help her, and I've even seen them weasel out of situations to do things for her in the past many times and put them on other people.
I guess my mom is going to be able to stay now, but I swear there is a hidden agenda here.
On August 26 2007 01:27 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, I need to sell my Blizzcon shit now instead of waiting 6 months to sell it for more later.
Anyone know how to setup ebay and/or paypal or whatever? I've never used this shit.
Signing up with ebay is about as simple as filling out any other online registration form. Paypal too, except that with paypal you need a valid bank account and it'll take about 3-5 business days for the account to "clear" so that you're able to make transactions through it.
Also what I don't get is whether or not the house is also under you Aunt and Uncle's name, if it isn't then they shouldn't have any right to kick anyone out unless your grandma's in agreement (which it sounds like she isn't/wouldn't be).
This is my grandma's house shes sick right now in the hospital with a stomache problem. My Loving Aunt and Uncle decided a few days ago we were going to have a 'family talk' today at 8 am.
Anyone else think of Fresh Prince upon reading that?
Charlie there are a lot of people that post here from Cali and probably a decent amount in your area, if worst comes to worst I'm sure one of them would let you stay at there place for a little like a week or so to give you a slightly better chance. Not sure about the rest of your family though, do you have any decent relatives in the area?
By the way I'm sorry this had to happen to you, your uncle deserves to get the shit beat out of him for acting that way and for kicking you guys out especially your sister and her boyfriend who have a baby.
Three things. Who owns the house your grandma or aunt/uncle? Which of the two (your aunt or uncle) is related to you through blood not marriage (yours moms brother or sister)? And which of the two (your aunt/uncle) seemed to want you out of the house more?
If you want to put up a fight (probably not the best idea), I doubt you can't be kicked out of a house (even if you don't have a lease) without at least a month's notice and a written eviction. It probably varies from state to state, and that's in Canada, but I can't imagine it's much different in the US.
I perdict u have to sell ur newly-build computer just to stay alive. oh how life sucks. reminds me of that time when i had one day to find a new place to live because my homecarer is a major bitch.
I have confidence I will find a place(s) to stay as I have many friends around here. The main problem is what I'm gonna do with all my shit and money/bills.
CharlieMurphy has proven in the past that he has lax morals but this isn't just a problem for him, there is a baby and his sister and brother who are in trouble. But you know, who cares lets make jokes about CharlieMurphy instead of offering some conciliation or help. Just remember it comes back to you also Cpt Obvious, don't expect people to care or offer help when you have a serious problem because you acted like a dick here.
I am envious of all you people who have a solid family that allows you to live in your house and pay for shit even though you have a job and probably even pay for your school, cars, etc. And I don't mean this in a bad way, you're lucky.
Sounds like the reason they are kicking you out because they expect your grandma to die or something. Then they can sell the house easily since you are no longer residing there.
On August 26 2007 01:53 itzme_petey wrote: Sounds like the reason they are kicking you out because they expect WANT your grandma to die or something. Then they can sell the house easily since you are no longer residing there.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. Now I am almost certain of ulterior motives.
Its like maybe she (gma) mentioned something about people being here and they ran with it an convinced her to agree to kick everyone out. Which probably wasn't that hard given her current state.
yea, im sorry to hear that. now i would just recommend you going into survival mode. work as much as possible and cut expenses extremely down. All new services, cancel ASAP and start looking for a new job. you do NOT need to buy a NEW car. Milk the van for as long as possible and then find a used pinto or something. I really wouldn't save up 600 just to gamble it away on online poker. As for your stuff, start garage selling them off and only take the bare minimum that will fit in the van. Drop your cellphone contract and go for a criket/pay as you go phone. I can't stress how much money that will save. Ramen will be your new best friend. Goodluck.
On August 26 2007 01:49 CharlieMurphy wrote: I am envious of all you people who have a solid family that allows you to live in your house and pay for shit even though you have a job and probably even pay for your school, cars, etc. And I don't mean this in a bad way, you're lucky.
Yep people in that position (like moi) are indeed lucky. In many cases the parents treat it as an investment. Most of what I've gained monetarily from my family will be repaid... but having a place to live and people to fall back on upon graduating from college is quite a blessing.
On August 26 2007 01:53 itzme_petey wrote: Sounds like the reason they are kicking you out because they expect WANT your grandma to die or something. Then they can sell the house easily since you are no longer residing there.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. Now I am almost certain of ulterior motives.
Its like maybe she (gma) mentioned something about people being here and they ran with it an convinced her to agree to kick everyone out. Which probably wasn't that hard given her current state.
honestly, go visit your grandma and ask her who is incharge of her will and if she specified who gets what to be sure.
On August 26 2007 01:49 CharlieMurphy wrote: I am envious of all you people who have a solid family that allows you to live in your house and pay for shit even though you have a job and probably even pay for your school, cars, etc. And I don't mean this in a bad way, you're lucky.
Could you explain how you got into this predicament? Mainly the part where you only have $263 in your bank? That is how much I had in mine 4 months ago and now I have $3200 .... so why haven't you been working?
I don't make that much an hour and I only work about 30~ish hours a week. The government also likes to take about 1/4 of every check which is always nice.
I had a little over 1000$ in my account last month but I bought a computer paid bills, food and gas.
I haven't slept and I am due to work in 20 minutes.
My advice to you. Go and find a job that gives tips like waiting tables. I work as a carhop @ Sonic and my base pay is $6.50 an hour and I make another $5-6 an hour in tips.... so usually I will make about $11-12 an hour. It's amazing money and I will work 40 hours a week so it adds up incredibly fast.
is it possible to room with your sister and her b/f? or is that out of the question? you'd have to deal with the baby though, but that doesn't seem as bad as not having anywhere to live
Yea, I could get a regular old 9-5 job through a temp agency for like 10-15$/hr I have some quality work skills. I just like my job I have now because its close, the hours are good, and I am here by myself and can do whatever I want all day (like play SC lol).
on the flipside, as fucked up, depressed and hopeless it feels now, you'll reach a point where you will look back and be glad how things turned out, and you wouldn't want it any other way.
from experience, shit like this where you have to step out of your comfort zone is what defines you in the end. you'll get through it one way or another and you'll mature and end up being more independent, free and productive.
but yeah, right now it prolly feels like a downward spiral
As many others have already said, cut everything you can right now. Save money for food and rent for a new place (maybe paying friends). And work as much as you can.
Can they legally kick you out, as in will you be breaking the law if you stay? That just seems so fucked up to do. But then again I have my share of stories about evil aunts/uncles.
Basically just try to work your ass off and save up money would be the best thing for now is how I see it. Then start planning ahead for the future.
Oh man I am so thankful to god right now for my education and stuff. I really feel for ya Charlie, can't even begin to imagine what that would be like. Our government pretty much takes care of everyone here, even if you had no job and got kicked out on the street.
My suggestion would be to find an apartment and live with your sis and her bf. Splitting the rent three ways to an apartment is very doable. That would give you a place to put all your stuff and it wouldn't be a lot of money downt the drain for bills, food, ect.
I wouldn't suggest taking up poker for a full time job thou, remember no matter what you are still GAMBLING with your money, you can be up $1000 big ones one day, and the next be -$1500. Find a steady job and a place to stay first. And once you get accomodated you can start playing poker if you want. I wouldn't risk it right now. Your on a thine ice, so take unnecessary risks.
How can you hope to live off of poker. If you were gosu @ it or something then shouldent you already have a hefty bankroll?
Do you have any degrees or anything?
If anyone could put in 600$, and play ultra tight, top ten hands and wired pairs only, and live off of that then middle class america would stop doing their 9 to 5.
Well this can only make you stronger, and at least you know who you can trust - or more specifically cant trust..I love it when people say all you truley have in life is family. Yeah. Right.
Ive been through my share of shitty times as well my friend - you'll be ok
On August 26 2007 05:25 oshibori_probe wrote: How old are you anyways?
How can you hope to live off of poker. If you were gosu @ it or something then shouldent you already have a hefty bankroll?
Do you have any degrees or anything?
If anyone could put in 600$, and play ultra tight, top ten hands and wired pairs only, and live off of that then middle class america would stop doing their 9 to 5.
I am good at it. I'm 23, I just haven't played because I didn't have a car, steady job, or credit card (to play online).
I had planned to start playing Hardcore poker online after I met a couple goals such as getting a new computer and internet to play poker on..
I wasn't planning to live off it, but keep my main job and gain cash on the side. Then save up for a car and/or move out on my own.
lol save up money and get an education at a community college
are u serious your life plan was to work every day and once u have $600 deposit into full tilt? thats so ridiculous, give me a break... and please use some judgment
maybe u deserve to get kicked out wtf if i was your uncle/aunt id kick you out too
On August 26 2007 05:25 oshibori_probe wrote: How old are you anyways?
How can you hope to live off of poker. If you were gosu @ it or something then shouldent you already have a hefty bankroll?
Do you have any degrees or anything?
If anyone could put in 600$, and play ultra tight, top ten hands and wired pairs only, and live off of that then middle class america would stop doing their 9 to 5.
Diploma+Degree+Job exp.
You should be fine. You just got to keep looking ahead of the road.
On August 26 2007 05:50 FroZZoR wrote: lol save up money and get an education at a community college
are u serious your life plan was to work every day and once u have $600 deposit into full tilt? thats so ridiculous, give me a break... and please use some judgment
maybe u deserve to get kicked out wtf if i was your uncle/aunt id kick you out too
Thats a sure fire waste of time and money if you ask me.
My "life plan" is not to save up 600 , It was to work a regular job and play poker on the side.
I don't think playing poker is a good idea especially when u got kicked outta the house and working so you can get everything you lost or wanted. It be a miracle if you got in like a WCG poker tournament and became #1 because its a quick way to earn cash from playing poker.
P.S. Playing poker to win money as a job in a professional league doesn't sound so idealistic.
The day I graduated highschool my dad told me I was paying $400 a month for rent and car insurance on a car I drive but don't own.. (I'm now paying $200 a month to buy it off him). I'm just now being able to move out and into an apartment with friends. All while making $9.50 an hour.. =\
Life sucks but you just have to roll with it.
Anyone who says to man up or don't be stupid and try to live off poker needs to stop being a douche and appreciate that trying to live pay check to pay check at a young age isn't easy (if you've been there and done that and still feel the need to be a douche at least make it constructive)
Wow kicking you'r own family out on the street like that is so cruel. And only a week notice wtf? You'r uncle makes me angry. I wish the best of luck to you in finding a place to live.
On August 26 2007 06:26 Pistasj wrote: Wow kicking you'r own family out on the street like that is so cruel. And only a week notice wtf? You'r uncle makes me angry. I wish the best of luck to you in finding a place to live.
I agree that the best solution would be getting a couple of roommates and hopefully an apartment that doesn't suck too much. You can rebuild from there.
Poker isn't a horrible idea to try because you don't have a whole lot of options. Even if you want to get a university degree it's incredibly hard for your situation.
However you should forget about poker until you secure yourself. Even if you are good at poker it takes time to get to the point where you can regularly cash out significant money. Time you won't have soon.
You need to calm down and think about this. First of all, what is the exact situation?
1) Who owns the house?
2) How sick is your grandmother?/Is it possible she could die?
3) How rich is she/who is in her will?
If she has a little bit of money and she seems sick, I would say that your relatives are trying to screw you over for the money/whatever she has, as sad as it is for me to say it. If you have a pretty good relationship with her, maybe you and your mom should talk about this and make a plan, then approach her in the hospital and see what she has to say. If its clear that your relatives are manipulating her, get her to sign a lease with you saying that you can stay in the house, for x amount of money each month, or in exchange for taking care of her.
You really don't need to go out on the street and lose all your stuff, and there is a pretty good likelihood that you will come home one of these days and all your stuff will be out on the curb. What you need to do is find a storage place with a $1 for the first month deal, then get that incase you need to move all your stuff out in a hurry.
If your relatives start throwing your stuff out on the street, and they don't own the house, you need to call the police. They have no right to do that, and need some type of written thing from your grandmother to do it. Just remember, they are trying to steel from you and your mom, and you need to screw them over before they can screw you over.
You said they want you out before your grandmother comes home. Why is this? It sounds to me like they are trying to manipulate her, and if she comes home and you are still there, they are afraid she will change her mind. You need to remember that what your relatives are doing is a very evil thing, and they are your enemies now. There is a reason they are doing this, its because they are much older than you and have learned how to screw people over and manipulate them. You don't need to be some airhead and just go along with it, like you are some 12 year old.
First step, secure your things. Second step, write up a lease with your mom and get your grandma to sign it.
Also, don't let your uncle find out about your plans. Just call him up and talk like an idiot like you are going to go along with it, tell him where you plan on staying, say "ok, yes sir!!!" so he thinks that things are going his way, and he will be less likely to put pressure on you, to buy yourself some time.
Also, if worse comes to worse, go to a church and ask for help (like if you are about to loose all your stuff).
On August 26 2007 06:38 Servolisk wrote: That sucks. Your uncle sucks.
I agree that the best solution would be getting a couple of roommates and hopefully an apartment that doesn't suck too much. You can rebuild from there.
Poker isn't a horrible idea to try because you don't have a whole lot of options. Even if you want to get a university degree it's incredibly hard for your situation.
However you should forget about poker until you secure yourself. Even if you are good at poker it takes time to get to the point where you can regularly cash out significant money. Time you won't have soon.
I dun tink he be getting a university degree or even a college diploma/degree b/c he said its a waste of time and money and he doesn't have that. Playing poker should be a hobby not a life long job unless you have the cash coming in from your current job.
Also, if worse comes to worse, go to a church and ask for help (like if you are about to loose all your stuff).
Good post, but on a side note, he'd have more luck at a Sikh Gurdwara than most Churches in America these days. Seriously, I'd try that first if it were me. But thankfully CharlieMurphy said he has plenty of friends around for a last resort.
On August 26 2007 06:38 Servolisk wrote: That sucks. Your uncle sucks.
I agree that the best solution would be getting a couple of roommates and hopefully an apartment that doesn't suck too much. You can rebuild from there.
Poker isn't a horrible idea to try because you don't have a whole lot of options. Even if you want to get a university degree it's incredibly hard for your situation.
However you should forget about poker until you secure yourself. Even if you are good at poker it takes time to get to the point where you can regularly cash out significant money. Time you won't have soon.
I dun tink he be getting a university degree or even a college diploma/degree b/c he said its a waste of time and money and he doesn't have that. Playing poker should be a hobby not a life long job unless you have the cash coming in from your current job.
I didn't mean to say he should make it a job, he should just do it on the side like he planned, only once he was secured with a place to live and income. He should only do it full time if he turns out to rock at it... which no one does at the beginning.
I am sorry to hear that, and there is nothing specific I can do to help.
However, on a general sense...
If the environment is against you, that's one more reason you should man it up and change your environment. Attitude determines altitude.
I believe that you should think re-prioritize what is important in your life, if you haven't already done that. Periodically remind yourself what your priority is, and constantly work towards it.
Frugality is the key word here. If you allow me to put things in perspective - cable internet and computer is a luxury when you don't even have a place to live. I am grateful to have learned that at least you live in the United States, not some third-world nation.
I ask myself these questions:
1. What do I see myself doing at the end of today. 2. What do I see myself doing 1 month from now. 3. What do I see myself doing 1 year from now.
I plan my schedules based on my answer to the questions I ask myself, and remind myself to constantly go back to my goal and make sure I am on the right track.
Some people are natural risk takers, they live their life on the edge. Some succeed, and others don't. Perhaps playing poker may get you out of the financial trouble, and there is nothing wrong attempting to improve your financial condition. But constantly remind yourself of your goals and make sure you are always making progress toward those goals.
For the record, I believe that playing poker online will get you in financial trouble, not the other way around.
Also, don't talk to your grandma until you actually have a lease for her to sign, because its most likely that your relatives will be keeping very close tabs on her, and if they find out that you've gone to visit her, they will explode on you. So make sure you get it the first time.
I hope you already canceled your blockbuster subscription, you need to save every penny now. Things like Internet, blockbuster and a super computer are going to be luxury to you from now on, learn to live without this until you are financially stable. Best of luck man!
In Canada, you are legally entitled to 3 months notice before you have to leave. Giving someone 1 week notice to vacate the premesis is borderline illegal. I would suggest going to your local rental board place (dunno what you would refer to it in the US), and filing a complant stating your situation. A similar thing happened to me, and so long as you are providing towards the household, you are entitled 3 months to find a new place. I would suggest possibly bringing that up to your relatives.
Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
Yeah, thats the greatest idea I've ever heard. Take peoples tax money (including others on this site) so that you don't have to work hard, just try and get lucky with poker. You're an amazing addition to society....
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
Didn't read the op? Even if you are planning on leaving, it might be a good idea to get control of the situation so you aren't f*cked up.
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
Now I see the cell phone karma...
gl to you my friend. Hope everything works out for you just remember to think before you act, especially in the situation you are in.
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
This is a really bad idea. It's pretty selfish as well. Beggars can't be choosers and in your current situation you're quite close to being a beggar. Just get a full-time or a few part-time jobs, it's not like you have anything else to do (iirc, you're not going to school). Even if you do have something else to do, hoping you magically become good a poker, especially good enough to live off of poker, is a very delusional idea, sounds like you need a bit more sleep.
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
Being a lazy guy and taking the tax money from pple while trying to get alot of money from poker is selfish and is not a good plan to start.
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
Wow... even with someone so down on his luck and in such a hard spot in life, I still find it hard to feel bad for you after comments like this.
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
You need to calm down and think about this. First of all, what is the exact situation?
1) Who owns the house?
2) How sick is your grandmother?/Is it possible she could die?
3) How rich is she/who is in her will?
If she has a little bit of money and she seems sick, I would say that your relatives are trying to screw you over for the money/whatever she has, as sad as it is for me to say it. If you have a pretty good relationship with her, maybe you and your mom should talk about this and make a plan, then approach her in the hospital and see what she has to say. If its clear that your relatives are manipulating her, get her to sign a lease with you saying that you can stay in the house, for x amount of money each month, or in exchange for taking care of her.
You really don't need to go out on the street and lose all your stuff, and there is a pretty good likelihood that you will come home one of these days and all your stuff will be out on the curb. What you need to do is find a storage place with a $1 for the first month deal, then get that incase you need to move all your stuff out in a hurry.
If your relatives start throwing your stuff out on the street, and they don't own the house, you need to call the police. They have no right to do that, and need some type of written thing from your grandmother to do it. Just remember, they are trying to steel from you and your mom, and you need to screw them over before they can screw you over.
You said they want you out before your grandmother comes home. Why is this? It sounds to me like they are trying to manipulate her, and if she comes home and you are still there, they are afraid she will change her mind. You need to remember that what your relatives are doing is a very evil thing, and they are your enemies now. There is a reason they are doing this, its because they are much older than you and have learned how to screw people over and manipulate them. You don't need to be some airhead and just go along with it, like you are some 12 year old.
First step, secure your things. Second step, write up a lease with your mom and get your grandma to sign it.
Also, don't let your uncle find out about your plans. Just call him up and talk like an idiot like you are going to go along with it, tell him where you plan on staying, say "ok, yes sir!!!" so he thinks that things are going his way, and he will be less likely to put pressure on you, to buy yourself some time.
Also, if worse comes to worse, go to a church and ask for help (like if you are about to loose all your stuff).
Hope that helps.
That's some very good advice.
CharlieMurphy, this is a serious situation. Man up and face it to your best.
Any form of school is not for me, Thats part of the reason why I did the test.
I'm not saying school is worthless but I'm just not made to the rules and bullshit associated with school. I prefer to learn on my own or with specific reasons/persons.
CharlieMurphy get a job first and make sure you're stable, you may have to help support your sister and her boyfriend and playing poker won't do that. To much risk, you could bust and be in even more trouble. Get a job until you're stable.
what about ur sis, her bf and your mum? i don't get... even if ur sis can not do work, thats still 3 labour hands? not that hard to work out something around that?
Well, another thing you could consider is going into an apprenticeship program. Basically, you work with people to learn a skill, such as being an electrician, carpenter, etc. Basically, they pay you to work with them for a while, until you get a certificate. No classroom, just working. And they make pretty good money too:
I love how so many people get the idea that they are fairly good at poker, when they actually havent done it for big $$$, and thus make a decision that when they get money they will put it in poker, and those skills that won them those fun games with friends will also support them when they are living off crackers, unemployment, with no commodities but a comp and internet acsess.
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
Wow... even with someone so down on his luck and in such a hard spot in life, I still find it hard to feel bad for you after comments like this.
Charlie, you seem cool, but when you think you're going to play poker and do well, and then abuse public services for your own personal benefit, it makes me think maybe your uncle kicked you out for a REALLY good reason.
If you havent played online poker before you DONT know how to play poker at all, live poker with friends isnt real poker.
But first of all why in the fuck did you idiots just got out of the house and didnt fight it?... go to your grandma and ask her WTF is going on, if she is behind this convince her to take u back in, if she still refuses wish her a painfull death and set your uncle's cars on fire.
You might aswell collect disability to fuel your bw playing! For one, disability goes to stoners so they dont have to work, so I guess you could get some too.
As much as your situation sucks Charlie, I actually think you are a lazy shit. A hard job is nothing hard to come by. It takes basic skills to get a 12$/hr job.
I've never been given anything in my life. Always poor, never had shit, never had a solid family constantly being kicked out and I'm 19 own a house in Georgia and a condo in South Florida..................... seriously dude lol get some ambition and life skills. A quick swift in the ass is truly the only way to inspire a lazy person to do anything. Trust me I know.
Stop trying to find easy ways out of life. Being the house maid/lawn boy and playing poker for a living? Pick up a hammer or learn how to look pretty and type up some documents for a lawyer.
Sorry for your unfortunate situation. I know you expressed an interest in starting poker to me before and whatnot, and I'll be able to help you out to improve you as a player, but yeah don't plan on starting anytime soon. You have to realize that it requires a tremendous amount of time spent playing and improving in order to make any serious money, as grinded 5-10NL money isn't that much, not to mention how long it takes cash outs to come by (~30 days via check, if you do via epassporte they tax you and it'll still take a week, etc.). Starting or even contemplating a serious poker career requires that you are 100% comfortable, both financially speaking and mentally speaking.
Really prioritize what you need to get a handle on now, as stated before, limit your luxuries as clearly now is not the time to have such liabilities. Good luck with your situation, Mike.
Charlie if your financial situation is so bad and you've never played online poker before, then seriously, don't waste your money. It will only make your situation worse.
What kind of job are you willing to do? Manual labor will give you more than enough money to live comfortably (if you aren't supporting other people) and doesn't require schooling/special skills.
On August 26 2007 08:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea, seems like most of the posts on this page didn't even read the OP in detail.
I was thinking maybe i can get laid off so I could collect unemployment while I mass poker. And be real picky about a new job for a month or so while staying at my GFs or whatever.
Wow... even with someone so down on his luck and in such a hard spot in life, I still find it hard to feel bad for you after comments like this.
As much as I loathe this country's unemployment system and think it needs changed, if it's there I don't care when people use it to their advantage. We pay for it, why can't we use it?
I mean, I can't really say it's a smart decision financially. And I know nothing about CharlieMurphy's morals, but just reading what he typed makes me feel very little against him.
On August 26 2007 13:18 fight_or_flight wrote: Well, another thing you could consider is going into an apprenticeship program. Basically, you work with people to learn a skill, such as being an electrician, carpenter, etc. Basically, they pay you to work with them for a while, until you get a certificate. No classroom, just working. And they make pretty good money too:
I've played poker a lot, In casinos, at random tournaments, peoples houses, cash games, online a little, I've read a few books. I know how to play poker. I'm not planning to live off it but have it as a side hobbie to make extra dough. Its better than playing BW on the side for nothing right? Eventually I will get even better and maybe move up in stakes, but thats not part of the plan.
I am not joining the military nor would they take me. I have actually applied for USAF before and I have screws in my ankle and criminal background (when I was a teen) not to mention the USAF doesn't accept CHSPE anymore I would have to get like 20 more credits ( i have some from previous college stuff) in college courses to prove to them I'm not an idiot. Which is retarded in itself.
I might actually lose my job, a la getting laid off. Unemployment is my right. Like I said the government already takes out like 1/4 of my check. It may be time to collect some of that back. Its actually there for people like me who need help. Did I say I was just gonna sit on my ass and collect checks? No, stfu.
My sister and mom applied to HUD (housing for urban development) a while back, They both have shit credit and it fell through. It takes a looooong time to get accepted and then for them to find you a house etc. Its not easy.
Actually my sister's BF is doing that and now you HAVE to get certified to get payed as much as the top dogs. He was telling me about this cause a lot of the old timers who have been doing it for years are going to be paid the same amount as the new players who just get the certif (in class) and it pisses them off.
My mom's job is taking care of my grandma full time. She collects SSI and lives here for free.
My sister just got a new job but its something shitty that I know she won't keep for long. Her BF has been working at a cargo place driving forklifts and such for a couple months while he finishes up his electrician stuff.
And yea Baal my gramma is sick and she probably behind it. I'm not going to go to her and argue or dramatize it will only make things worse for her and make me look bad. Fuck em anyways, I'll find a place. If they wanna be dicks about it then it would be a hell of a hassle trying to keep my room and then even from then dealing with their shit everyday afterwords.
PS- My uncle rides motorcycles, no car.
My sister's bf used to work for a storage facility, so he may be able to get free or cheap storage and boxes and shit.
Quick Question, How much do you guys think a 5 bed (1 master with bath), 3 full bath, living room, dining room , kitchen, walk in pantry, side dining in kitchen, pool, 2 car garage, 2 stories, that is about 2 miles from the beach in Huntington Beach CA, is worth?
I've been playing poker for a few years as a living and its really easy and really hard at the same time. It takes a lot of work, a lot of study and contemplation. But if you want it bad enough and are smart enough you can pull it off.
If I were you, I would sell all of my meager possessions and buy a laptop and a cheap van, It would double as a bed in the back. I would drive to wherever there is free wifi (coffee shops, book stores, community colleges, other random places) and play poker in my free time. Working my job in the other time.
If I couldnt manage to get a place to live I would probably consider going to job corps. Free housing and food + training is hard to beat.
Since where you work you have access to a computer, quit playing bw and start reading two plus two small stakes forum(solid advice), start playing freerolls, beg for money from richer poker players, or ask for a stake and try to parlay that small chunk of change into a real bankroll. It's possible if you want it. You dont need 600 dollars, you only need like 50.
Start looking for another job now, even a night job if you must, since you anticipate being layed off. Check in the newspaper for cheap rooms to rent.
Donate sperm, donate plasma. Thats good for a few hundred I think.
On August 27 2007 10:41 CharlieMurphy wrote: Quick Question, How much do you guys think a 5 bed (1 master with bath), 3 full bath, living room, dining room , kitchen, walk in pantry, side dining in kitchen, pool, 2 car garage, 2 stories, that is about 2 miles from the beach in Huntington Beach CA, is worth?
Personally i would stick with the job untill the last minute (coz if u do tht the boss has to give u some sorta gud reference right?) and with that reference you could go and get a part time job and got to community college and a little sc on the side. but honestly dude i feel for you but if you plan properly it can and will work out.
Poker is not an occupation. Some individuals are unique and have been able to make money playing that game. There are a lot of factors, it's not just intelligence, or the support of friends, or life stability, or time, etc. It's all those things and more.
The truth of the matter is, you shouldn't even be considering poker right now if you're having money issues and you're essentially a beginner.
As far as your life problems in general Charlie, I feel for ya man. All you can do is prioritize and take them one at a time. Deal with your housing situation, at least temporarily, and then look at your job and what other possibilities are available to you.
Don't cloud your mind with pipe dreams about poker and other stupid bullshit. Those are dead ends that will only make things worse for you, trust me. Focus your energy, work hard, and good things will eventually come.
Because I don't really care, I just think its shitty the way they are trying to handle it behind peoples backs and shit. Like shit, I can understand if they wanna collect the house if she goes and not have to deal with the people living in it. But don't make up bullshit and pressure people and force family to the streets asap because of this. Buncha shiester money grubbin idiots.
my gramma is sick and she is probably behind it. I'm not going to go to her and argue or dramatize it will only make things worse for her and make me look bad. Fuck em anyways, I'll find a place. If they wanna be dicks about it then it would be a hell of a hassle trying to keep my room and then even from then dealing with their shit everyday afterwords. and boxes and shit.
EPT
Seriously, I'd try that first if it were me. But thankfully CharlieMurphy said he has plenty of friends around for a last resort.
