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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
On May 17 2020 04:02 Jek wrote: Isn't the water in water parks so loaded with chlorine that taking a dip in it would basically kill all bacteria and viruses on you skin instantly? I'm sure Denmark has that, but we're talking Tennessee. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
Theme Parks are the DEFINITION of non-essential businesses and they're some of the riskiest places you can go during a pandemic. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
On May 17 2020 05:47 Danglars wrote: The water parks I see put so much chlorine in, you wish you were wearing goggles because your eyes hurt. And the smell is overpowering. The concern at water parks is the transmission through breathing not the water. Also, if you live in California, makes sense you've always seen plenty of chlorine. Not all states provide appropriate regulations. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6219 Posts
CDC says not much risk from pools etc. The chlorine inactivates the virus quickly enough. The problem is in water parks, the lines for slides etc are problems. There's a limited amount of stairway space, and there's usually a pretty narrow staircase upwards. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On May 17 2020 06:43 Mohdoo wrote: The concern at water parks is the transmission through breathing not the water. Also, if you live in California, makes sense you've always seen plenty of chlorine. Not all states provide appropriate regulations. Naturally, but he was talking about the water. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34498 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
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pmh
1372 Posts
Its not only in the usa,there is also hotspots in canada and germany. There is many suggestions that i have seen,people work close to eachoter,the people who work there have bad living conditions living close to eachoter,the people go there by subway. None of them does make much sense to me because similar arguments can be made for many other workplaces,workers and areas and hygiene is pretty decent in those plants i asume. Yet the only thing that stands out are the meatpackaging plants. Also suggested was the refrigerated indoors situation but i dont see how that makes much sense either though it does make more sense to me as the other causes because this wouldnt go for other areas and workspots. I am really curious about the cause,surely it cant be the meat itself? That also wouldnt make much sense based on what we know about the virus. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On May 17 2020 09:15 pmh wrote: Why so many hotspots in meat packaging plants? Its not only in the usa,there is also hotspots in canada and germany. There is many suggestions that i have seen,people work close to eachoter,the people who work there have bad living conditions living close to eachoter,the people go there by subway. None of them does make much sense to me because similar arguments can be made for many other workplaces,workers and areas and hygiene is pretty decent in those plants i asume. Yet the only thing that stands out are the meatpackaging plants. Also suggested was the refrigerated indoors situation but i dont see how that makes much sense either though it does make more sense to me as the other causes because this wouldnt go for other areas and workspots. I am really curious about the cause,surely it cant be the meat itself? That also wouldnt make much sense based on what we know about the virus. The last discussion we had on the matter mentioned that there is lots of fluid in the air at a meat packing plant (ie, blood misting and spraying), which matters a lot for a virus thought to transmit via fluids most strongly. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
On May 17 2020 08:43 Mohdoo wrote: Seeing all these pictures of bars and whatnot is amazing. Everywhere is so much more packed than usual. This is just so funny. So much tension being unleashed. Yea well I hope these people sure think it's worth it. I bartend as a trade and right now being in a packed bar is one of the last places I want to be. People are gross and take no regard for sanitation on a normal night. A full bar during a pandemic? That's just begging for contamination, not just to the customers but the staff as well. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1057 Posts
On May 17 2020 09:15 pmh wrote: Why so many hotspots in meat packaging plants? + Show Spoiler + Its not only in the usa,there is also hotspots in canada and germany. There is many suggestions that i have seen,people work close to eachoter,the people who work there have bad living conditions living close to eachoter,the people go there by subway. None of them does make much sense to me because similar arguments can be made for many other workplaces,workers and areas and hygiene is pretty decent in those plants i asume. Yet the only thing that stands out are the meatpackaging plants. Also suggested was the refrigerated indoors situation but i dont see how that makes much sense either though it does make more sense to me as the other causes because this wouldnt go for other areas and workspots. I am really curious about the cause,surely it cant be the meat itself? That also wouldnt make much sense based on what we know about the virus. It's mostly the packaging lines, where people are standing next to each other shoulder by shoulder for hours. So again mostly droplet infection would be my guess. I've worked as a clerk in the administration of a meat processing plant and have been in production a couple of times, it's not a nice working environment, as you can imagine. Constant 7°C, everything gets steam cleaned a couple of times each day and large scale cooking. We had a special filtration system which dehumidified and supposedly killed all germs and viruses in the air, but if someone stands like 5 ft. across from you and coughs in your direction, that should't help much. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria832 Posts
Link: https://bing.com/covid/ | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10662 Posts
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria832 Posts
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On May 18 2020 08:24 SC-Shield wrote: Do you guys think there would be a second wave in autumn/winter? As long as countries/states don't take the necessary precautions like they do in Asian nations (hand sanitizer everywhere/mandatory masks/proper testing).. then yes. Covid is highly transmissible, we can start re-opening safely if we follow the necessary precautions like they do in S. Korea etc. Will that happen tho? When i see posts like yours talking about masks... it makes it hard to be optimistic. This isn't rocket science, the virus is highly transmissible and it has a high mortality rate. The only way to limit our exposure to it is by limiting non essential activity (mainly large gatherings, i.e: concerts, sporting events, tourism etc.) and by wearing masks/sanitizing well, until a vaccine is available. If we have a bit of discipline and common sense we'll be fine. Sadly that's easier said than done, especially in the west. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
On May 18 2020 08:24 SC-Shield wrote: Do you guys think there would be a second wave in autumn/winter? The US is absolutely getting a second wave. Maybe not in every state, but the ones that aren't doing any kind of testing or aren't taking any kind of precautions at all. Yea they'll get a second wave alright. I'm very worried for New York, I don't want to hear about them getting ravaged again. Los Angeles where I'm from has been spared largely in comparison with New York. I'm concerned for us, since I can fully attest that people are getting very weary of these restrictions. By the time winter rolls around, I'm sure they'll be mostly lifted which will leave us ripe pickings for a second wave. | ||
TheEmulator
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
Deaths lag ten days behind - but between March 20th and April 25th we went from 7 deaths to 201. From April 25th until May 18th, 201 to 232. We've been opening up quite a bit the last couple weeks, and the weekend that just passed was the biggest party weekend of the year in Norway. And while people were definitely more reserved than most years, there was definitely a fair amount of partying happening. IF there's still a considerable amount of hidden infections, we should see a spike again a couple weeks from now, but frankly, I think the infected- case might have been so low that we don't see much of a resurgence. | ||
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