US Politics Mega-thread - Page 574

On August 03 2018 03:56 xDaunt wrote:


Just one more reason why those Second Amendment people are going to fight any form of gun control tooth and nail.

On August 03 2018 04:00 m4ini wrote:


Look here mate, if you don't know my political position, which i btw made extremely clear just a few pages back, that's fine. Don't then act like you actually do though, because that makes you look like a fucking idiot.

How many stories of a black dude being shot are "okay with the general public" then? How okay was the general public with some retard going terrorist (and lets be clear, that's what that was)?

Oh they weren't? Well fuck me. That kinda means that what they did is still fucking illegal and unacceptable. Jesus fucking christ, are there really only spoons left here?

Not to mention that extremists exist on both sides, you fucking had left wing extremists running amok, and you also had black people going on cop killing sprees, also killing innocents.



Dude, you have no idea what a concentration camp is, fuck off.

On August 03 2018 04:27 Plansix wrote:
I feel confident Germany covers concentration camps in history class in far more depth than any US school.

On August 03 2018 04:43 JimmiC wrote:


I get that, my point is just, if this sort of thing is allowed "against" whites it allows some whites to justify their comments by "look they do it too" or "nyt allows it against me so they should allow me to do it".

I think as a society we need to make all racism "wrong" and punish/look down on anyone who does it no matter the side.

On August 03 2018 04:50 xDaunt wrote:
I hope the NYT keeps Jeong around. It will do a ton of damage to their brand -- all self-inflicted.

On August 03 2018 04:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
I should clarify that I think the statements are perfectly fine, but in no way expect her to keep a job at the NYT with that. Though if she does, I think it reflects well on the NYT.

Then surely they would teach that they predated Nazi's and many came long after they were gone (from open power in Germany anyway).

I just thought m4ini's statement was incredibly short-sighted given many protests and riots are in direct response to the effects attitude he is saying one should hope the other side doesn't have.

Do you think her statements are racist against white people?

On August 03 2018 04:58 Sermokala wrote:

Do you think her statements are racist against white people?

On August 03 2018 05:00 m4ini wrote:


Yes. I know where they originated, and i know what, in recent history, would be considered concentration camp. The US is currently running one, which is Guantanamo Bay. But please, don't act like that's what he was talking about, especially considering that he said "camps".

What's more, is that no one here applies "concentration camp" with cuban reconcentration camps in mind. Concentration camps is either used as hyperbole with nazi germany, or japanese internment centers in mind.

Concentration camp is a euphemism for forced relocation and "illegal" imprisonment without charges or intent to do so. That's not what's happening, at least not yet. Their imprisonment (minus the children) in camps is entirely legal and don't fit any definition of concentration camp. We can argue the morality of it all day, i'd go as far as to say that we might even be on the same page - that doesn't change anything in regard to using sensationalist big words to make shit sound scary. That's like me calling you faggot, but clearly, i mean welsh national food ("meatballs" called faggots).

Now, the kids, that's more of a gray area - and one could argue that these are actually concentration camps. That's far from clear cut though: fact of the matter is that, if they'd be with their parents, they'd still be illegally detained because they're not charged with a crime.

Now, if you start rounding up all them mexican slurword (pretty sure that one exists) and throw them into jail for running around with a hugeass hat and drinking tequila (yes, hyperbole), then we're talking.



Yeah, they are. They also frequently, if not always target innocents directly or by accident. You had LA in 92 ffs. Riots and looting doesn't follow rules. In LA koreans were targeted because "they weren't fair n shit" after Rodney King got beaten up. That's how riots and looting works. Same in france, in germany, and absofuckinglutely everywhere where left wing extremism riots. It's always, always always always some poor fucker who just lives his life and has nothing to do with what you're rioting against who discovers the leftovers of his car burned out in the morning.

Like, it's incomprehensibly moronic.

Keep in mind, we're not talking "protesting". We specifically were talking about riots and looting.

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The correct question would be, does he think one can even be racist towards white people.

On August 03 2018 05:07 On_Slaught wrote:
Sanders was asked today if she thought the press were the enemy multiple times and she wouldnt say no. Absolutely shameful. But I guess we already knew she was a piece of shit that since she is paid to lie to America every day.

People love to downplay how dangerous this administration is to our democratic norms, it I dont buy it.

On August 03 2018 04:50 xDaunt wrote:
I hope the NYT keeps Jeong around. It will do a ton of damage to their brand -- all self-inflicted.

On August 03 2018 05:15 xDaunt wrote:

I have no problem with labeling the press as the enemy. Do you really think that any rational conservative would consider the NYT or CNN as being friendly to a conservative agenda? Of course not. The press as a whole is predominantly liberal if not left wing. As a result, the press as a whole has been hostile to conservative interests for generations. Trump is merely the first conservative president to point it out and act accordingly.