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On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country.
Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated.
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On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated.
There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development.
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On August 03 2018 02:07 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 01:45 Mohdoo wrote:
I've noticed an interesting phenomena in political discussion.
When I look back at 2015 and think about all of the republicans I have discussed politics with, there are a few alt-righters, the jeb lovers, rand paul guys, mccain guys...etc
Among all of these, the ones who have hopped on the Trump train with the most commitment are the ones who started out extremely skeptical of Trump. The ones who told me how "he's just an idiot looking for publicity, we need a real leader like ____" are the ones who have completely surrendered to Trump and are able to see every single thing he does as calculated and proper. It is interesting, but not entirely surprising. Conservatives hold hierarchy as a somewhat supreme ideal. Fear of god, surrendering to the church, unconditional protection of elders or "community figures" are all typical behaviors of conservatives.
You know Mad Max? It's kind of like that. When the main characters bring the dead body of their former leader to their city at the end of the movie, everyone cheers for their new leader. I feel like the same thing happened with Trump for many of these people. There is some psychological mechanism at play where once someone becomes their leader, they are suddenly significantly less fallible than they were only moments before. Because this person is their leader, he is great.
Anyone else noticed anything like this? Or maybe instead of all that baseless psychobabble, we simply see that Trump is delivering what we want?
What is Trump delivering that we you want?
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Most conservatives I know don't exactly support most of what Trump is doing but like to give the line "He is our president now so we have to support him and pray for him so he does better". Tho most of the ones I know are of the religious wing.
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On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated. There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development.
People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media.
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On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated. There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development. People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media.
I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.
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Dunno why people like Sargon or Vox Day. Even if you subscribe to their views they are so shit at presenting their views that they actually damage them.
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On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated. There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development. People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media. I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.
The problem with episode 8 was that it spent 75% of its runtime threatening to do something new in the SW universe but ultimately backed out at the end.
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On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated. There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development. People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media. I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.
You mean the best Star Wars film since Empire? Critical loved and talked about to this day. Hated by a loud group of internet babies making money off of outrage on youtube. The one that understands Luke was weak at the end of Jedi and nearly fell to the dark side. That he won rejecting violence and rage while accepting that he would die for it. That his actions with the Emperor didn’t matter. The SJWs of the world understood those movies and took something from them that wasn’t space wizards with super powers fighting with laser swords.
And SJWs also created the Expanse, which is top tier sci-fi. Ex Machine, Annihilation, fuck even District 9. Sci-fiction is the world of the SJW, looking for futures beyond the banal culture wars and to ask and say interesting things about humanity and identity. You might need to consider your taste in sci-fi are basic as fuck.
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On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated. There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development. People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media. I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.
Does it count as proving their point when they made all the same screaming noises about Episode 7 and that was a smash hit that managed to get people to watch Episode 8 despite a piss-poor audience reception and Rogue One despite being a critical 7.5/10 average and having huge reshoot problems?
Or is this one of those "if they're right one of the times they predict something that's all we should pay attention to" deals a la Austrian economics? Or maybe we should only judge the success of movies based on their downstream impact when it's convenient to make our point and not otherwise?
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On August 03 2018 03:17 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated. There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development. People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media. I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example. Does it count as proving their point when they made all the same screaming noises about Episode 7 and that was a smash hit that managed to get people to watch Episode 8 despite a piss-poor audience reception? Or is this one of those "if they're right one of the times they predict something that's all we should pay attention to" deals a la Austrian economics?
It depends upon how you want to look at it. Episode 7 was still fundamentally a Star Wars movie despite the cosmetic deviations. Episode 8 was where the significant deviation occurred.
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Speaking of SJW's, what do y'all think of the NY Times latest editorial board hire? Does anyone think that this is going to do anything to defuse Trump's charge that the press is the enemy of the people?
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The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.
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On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.
So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?
Here are some for context:
I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.
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TLJ seemed to be Rian Johnson deciding to burn/ ignore all the plot elements that JJ Abrams established in TFA. TFA was derivative as hell, but I was largely okay with it as a way to get people back into Star Wars and set up the trilogy's larger story arc.
Personally, I hated the subplot with Rose, Admiral Holdo was a dumb character, but I wouldn't say those sort of things ruined TLJ. Those were just a couple of a dozen different things that made it a incoherent mess of a movie.
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On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways. So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets? Here are some for context: https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.
Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements, but they are not appropriate for someone working at the times. But, at least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.
And for the record, I dislike the NYT editorial section. I write them two – three grumpy emails/letters a year, like an old man complaining to his local paper. I’ll write one special just for you.
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On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways. So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets? Here are some for context: https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.
She's my favorite NYT employee at the moment.
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On August 03 2018 03:16 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country. Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated. There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development. People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media. I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example. You mean the best Star Wars film since Empire? Critical loved and talked about to this day. Hated by a loud group of internet babies making money off of outrage on youtube. The one that understands Luke was weak at the end of Jedi and nearly fell to the dark side. That he won rejecting violence and rage while accepting that he would die for it. That his actions with the Emperor didn’t matter. The SJWs of the world understood those movies and took something from them that wasn’t space wizards with super powers fighting with laser swords. And SJWs also created the Expanse, which is top tier sci-fi. Ex Machine, Annihilation, fuck even District 9. Sci-fiction is the world of the SJW, looking for futures beyond the banal culture wars and to ask and say interesting things about humanity and identity. You might need to consider your taste in sci-fi are basic as fuck.
Oh please it has worse writing than an adam Sandler movie and tons of people hated it. Solo tanked beacuse of.how much people hated it. Luke wasn't a coward afraid to take responsibility for the monsters he set lose on the universe. The casino planet storyline will be forever referenced as what a colossal waste of time is. Mary poppins out of nowhere and the nonsense of the luke death scene should have been the height of terrible decisions the movie made until they randomly killed the only villian with credibility and told everyone blankly that their hero was a mary sue and they put less work into her character then the person who owned the helmet she was wearing in the first movie.
God forbid we talk about how space combat is forever now and retroactively ruined in the property for the sake of a single shot. SJWs didn't create scifi they ruin everything they touch beacuse they inherently don't understand basic storytelling. If they did they wouldn't let their passion for social justice get in the way of a good story. That's the difference between SJWs and regular people who want equality.
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On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways. So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets? Here are some for context: https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun. Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.
You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?
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On August 03 2018 03:39 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways. So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets? Here are some for context: https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun. Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin. You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?
Nope, I didn’t do that. And sometimes I support rioters and looters, depending on what they are rioting against and who they are looting. I’m very tolerant of alternative lifestyles.
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