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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 02 2018 18:45 GMT
#11441
On August 03 2018 03:38 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country.

Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated.


There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development.

People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media.

I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.

You mean the best Star Wars film since Empire? Critical loved and talked about to this day. Hated by a loud group of internet babies making money off of outrage on youtube. The one that understands Luke was weak at the end of Jedi and nearly fell to the dark side. That he won rejecting violence and rage while accepting that he would die for it. That his actions with the Emperor didn’t matter. The SJWs of the world understood those movies and took something from them that wasn’t space wizards with super powers fighting with laser swords.

And SJWs also created the Expanse, which is top tier sci-fi. Ex Machine, Annihilation, fuck even District 9. Sci-fiction is the world of the SJW, looking for futures beyond the banal culture wars and to ask and say interesting things about humanity and identity. You might need to consider your taste in sci-fi are basic as fuck.

Oh please it has worse writing than an adam Sandler movie and tons of people hated it. Solo tanked beacuse of.how much people hated it. Luke wasn't a coward afraid to take responsibility for the monsters he set lose on the universe. The casino planet storyline will be forever referenced as what a colossal waste of time is. Mary poppins out of nowhere and the nonsense of the luke death scene should have been the height of terrible decisions the movie made until they randomly killed the only villian with credibility and told everyone blankly that their hero was a mary sue and they put less work into her character then the person who owned the helmet she was wearing in the first movie.

God forbid we talk about how space combat is forever now and retroactively ruined in the property for the sake of a single shot. SJWs didn't create scifi they ruin everything they touch beacuse they inherently don't understand basic storytelling. If they did they wouldn't let their passion for social justice get in the way of a good story. That's the difference between SJWs and regular people who want equality.

Star Wars space everything dumb and makes no sense. It is one step above Flash Gordon in how silly it is. You can’t ruin space combat that never made sense to begin with. You can’t retroactively ruin other films that previously came out either. The all ladies ghost busters didn’t kill your childhood, all of that is impossible.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-02 18:48:33
August 02 2018 18:46 GMT
#11442
On August 03 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:39 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:



I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.

Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.

You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?

Nope, I didn’t do that. And sometimes I support rioters and looters, depending on what they are rioting against and who they are looting. I’m very tolerant of alternative lifestyles.


Then lets hope that "the other team" doesn't have the same views, because of course, looting and violence is only great if you yourself get to decide "who's worthy", not if someone else decides that you're now fair game.

Calling rioting and looting "lifestyle" is btw beyond idiotic.

edit: while we're at it, this one here is too.

She's my favorite NYT employee at the moment.


Yay, someone is racist against the other team, that makes it totally okay - abolish all the things, go ham on those i don't like!
On track to MA1950A.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
August 02 2018 18:47 GMT
#11443
Some people prefer law and order some people prefer anarchy for people to air grievances. People get hurt in both methods so to each their own.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 02 2018 18:48 GMT
#11444
On August 03 2018 03:47 Sermokala wrote:
Some people prefer law and order some people prefer anarchy for people to air grievances. People get hurt in both methods so to each their own.

You're really going to equivocate on the two? Particularly as applied in this country?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23230 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-02 18:53:04
August 02 2018 18:49 GMT
#11445
On August 03 2018 03:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:38 Sermokala wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country.

Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated.


There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development.

People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media.

I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.

You mean the best Star Wars film since Empire? Critical loved and talked about to this day. Hated by a loud group of internet babies making money off of outrage on youtube. The one that understands Luke was weak at the end of Jedi and nearly fell to the dark side. That he won rejecting violence and rage while accepting that he would die for it. That his actions with the Emperor didn’t matter. The SJWs of the world understood those movies and took something from them that wasn’t space wizards with super powers fighting with laser swords.

And SJWs also created the Expanse, which is top tier sci-fi. Ex Machine, Annihilation, fuck even District 9. Sci-fiction is the world of the SJW, looking for futures beyond the banal culture wars and to ask and say interesting things about humanity and identity. You might need to consider your taste in sci-fi are basic as fuck.

Oh please it has worse writing than an adam Sandler movie and tons of people hated it. Solo tanked beacuse of.how much people hated it. Luke wasn't a coward afraid to take responsibility for the monsters he set lose on the universe. The casino planet storyline will be forever referenced as what a colossal waste of time is. Mary poppins out of nowhere and the nonsense of the luke death scene should have been the height of terrible decisions the movie made until they randomly killed the only villian with credibility and told everyone blankly that their hero was a mary sue and they put less work into her character then the person who owned the helmet she was wearing in the first movie.

God forbid we talk about how space combat is forever now and retroactively ruined in the property for the sake of a single shot. SJWs didn't create scifi they ruin everything they touch beacuse they inherently don't understand basic storytelling. If they did they wouldn't let their passion for social justice get in the way of a good story. That's the difference between SJWs and regular people who want equality.

Star Wars space everything dumb and makes no sense. It is one step above Flash Gordon in how silly it is. You can’t ruin space combat that never made sense to begin with. You can’t retroactively ruin other films that previously came out either. The all ladies ghost busters didn’t kill your childhood, all of that is impossible.


He's kinda right though. Han did shoot first.

Are people really talking about Star Wars as some SJW moonshot or something?

On August 03 2018 03:46 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:39 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040

I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.

Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.

You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?

Nope, I didn’t do that. And sometimes I support rioters and looters, depending on what they are rioting against and who they are looting. I’m very tolerant of alternative lifestyles.


Then lets hope that "the other team" doesn't have the same views, because of course, looting and violence is only great if you yourself get to decide "who's worthy", not if someone else decides that you're now fair game.

Calling rioting and looting "lifestyle" is btw beyond idiotic.

edit: while we're at it, this one here is too.

Show nested quote +
She's my favorite NYT employee at the moment.


Yay, someone is racist against the other team, that makes it totally okay - abolish all the things, go ham on those i don't like!


That's not racism. fwiw we need more people willing and able to riot and loot. These capitalist refuse to learn.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-02 19:03:47
August 02 2018 18:54 GMT
#11446
On August 03 2018 03:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:38 Sermokala wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country.

Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated.


There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development.

People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media.

I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.

You mean the best Star Wars film since Empire? Critical loved and talked about to this day. Hated by a loud group of internet babies making money off of outrage on youtube. The one that understands Luke was weak at the end of Jedi and nearly fell to the dark side. That he won rejecting violence and rage while accepting that he would die for it. That his actions with the Emperor didn’t matter. The SJWs of the world understood those movies and took something from them that wasn’t space wizards with super powers fighting with laser swords.

And SJWs also created the Expanse, which is top tier sci-fi. Ex Machine, Annihilation, fuck even District 9. Sci-fiction is the world of the SJW, looking for futures beyond the banal culture wars and to ask and say interesting things about humanity and identity. You might need to consider your taste in sci-fi are basic as fuck.

Oh please it has worse writing than an adam Sandler movie and tons of people hated it. Solo tanked beacuse of.how much people hated it. Luke wasn't a coward afraid to take responsibility for the monsters he set lose on the universe. The casino planet storyline will be forever referenced as what a colossal waste of time is. Mary poppins out of nowhere and the nonsense of the luke death scene should have been the height of terrible decisions the movie made until they randomly killed the only villian with credibility and told everyone blankly that their hero was a mary sue and they put less work into her character then the person who owned the helmet she was wearing in the first movie.

God forbid we talk about how space combat is forever now and retroactively ruined in the property for the sake of a single shot. SJWs didn't create scifi they ruin everything they touch beacuse they inherently don't understand basic storytelling. If they did they wouldn't let their passion for social justice get in the way of a good story. That's the difference between SJWs and regular people who want equality.

Star Wars space everything dumb and makes no sense. It is one step above Flash Gordon in how silly it is. You can’t ruin space combat that never made sense to begin with. You can’t retroactively ruin other films that previously came out either. The all ladies ghost busters didn’t kill your childhood, all of that is impossible.

Space combat had at the least a kayfabe level of "ships do fighting and this fighting is relevant" now it doesnt have that. You can retroactively ruin other films when you mess with the basic premise of those films when you consider those other films to be in the same universe.

If in the next spiderman movie its revealed that he actualy has lizard powers it would ruin the first movie because he had spider powers then.

The all ladies ghost busters didn't ruin my childhood it was terrible for completely separate reasons from the ip they pillaged. At least they didnt pretend it was in the same universe like star wars.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
August 02 2018 18:54 GMT
#11447
On August 03 2018 03:46 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:39 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040

I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.

Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.

You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?

Nope, I didn’t do that. And sometimes I support rioters and looters, depending on what they are rioting against and who they are looting. I’m very tolerant of alternative lifestyles.


Then lets hope that "the other team" doesn't have the same views, because of course, looting and violence is only great if you yourself get to decide "who's worthy", not if someone else decides that you're now fair game.

Calling rioting and looting "lifestyle" is btw beyond idiotic.


I hate to break it to you, but "the other team" has been using aggressive threats, oppression and suppression (physical and political) to a much greater extent, with more institutional power, for a long time. How many stories of an unarmed black person being unilaterally executed by a cop does it take before that becomes obvious? Or what about actual nazis actually running someone over? White supremacy and far right extremism in the united states is not gonna suddenly "start" deciding to harm people, it's been doing it. And it's been fueled and propped up and legitimized by crap like Fox.

Oh let's not forget the actual fucking concentration camps. The other team long ago decided to ****s, and playing nice and compromising isn't going to make them stop by magic, and people shouldn't be expected to take it lying down.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 02 2018 18:56 GMT
#11448
On August 03 2018 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
That's not racism. fwiw we need more people willing and able to riot and loot. These capitalist refuse to learn.


Just one more reason why those Second Amendment people are going to fight any form of gun control tooth and nail.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
August 02 2018 18:57 GMT
#11449
On August 03 2018 03:48 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:47 Sermokala wrote:
Some people prefer law and order some people prefer anarchy for people to air grievances. People get hurt in both methods so to each their own.

You're really going to equivocate on the two? Particularly as applied in this country?

Part of having freedom is about choice. People have to ve allowed to reject that choice until society doesnt want that choice to exist.

Look at gh he doesn't care about peoples businesses or the little guy trying to make money. Those people sold out to the capatslists and deserve to have their livelihoods taken away.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 02 2018 18:57 GMT
#11450
--- Nuked ---
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
August 02 2018 18:58 GMT
#11451
On August 03 2018 03:54 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:46 m4ini wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:39 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040

I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.

Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.

You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?

Nope, I didn’t do that. And sometimes I support rioters and looters, depending on what they are rioting against and who they are looting. I’m very tolerant of alternative lifestyles.


Then lets hope that "the other team" doesn't have the same views, because of course, looting and violence is only great if you yourself get to decide "who's worthy", not if someone else decides that you're now fair game.

Calling rioting and looting "lifestyle" is btw beyond idiotic.


I hate to break it to you, but "the other team" has been using aggressive threats, oppression and suppression (physical and political) to a much greater extent, with more institutional power, for a long time. How many stories of an unarmed black person being unilaterally executed by a cop does it take before that becomes obvious? Or what about actual nazis actually running someone over? White supremacy and far right extremism in the united states is not gonna suddenly "start" deciding to harm people, it's been doing it. And it's been fueled and propped up and legitimized by crap like Fox.

Oh let's not forget the actual fucking concentration camps. The other team long ago decided to ****s, and playing nice and compromising isn't going to make them stop by magic, and people shouldn't be expected to take it lying down.

Not condoning racism is not a compromise.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
August 02 2018 19:00 GMT
#11452
On August 03 2018 03:54 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:46 m4ini wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:39 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040

I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.

Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.

You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?

Nope, I didn’t do that. And sometimes I support rioters and looters, depending on what they are rioting against and who they are looting. I’m very tolerant of alternative lifestyles.


Then lets hope that "the other team" doesn't have the same views, because of course, looting and violence is only great if you yourself get to decide "who's worthy", not if someone else decides that you're now fair game.

Calling rioting and looting "lifestyle" is btw beyond idiotic.


I hate to break it to you, but "the other team" has been using aggressive threats, oppression and suppression (physical and political) to a much greater extent, with more institutional power, for a long time. How many stories of an unarmed black person being unilaterally executed by a cop does it take before that becomes obvious? Or what about actual nazis actually running someone over? White supremacy and far right extremism in the united states is not gonna suddenly "start" deciding to harm people, it's been doing it. And it's been fueled and propped up and legitimized by crap like Fox.


Look here mate, if you don't know my political position, which i btw made extremely clear just a few pages back, that's fine. Don't then act like you actually do though, because that makes you look like a fucking idiot.

How many stories of a black dude being shot are "okay with the general public" then? How okay was the general public with some retard going terrorist (and lets be clear, that's what that was)?

Oh they weren't? Well fuck me. That kinda means that what they did is still fucking illegal and unacceptable. Jesus fucking christ, are there really only spoons left here?

Not to mention that extremists exist on both sides, you fucking had left wing extremists running amok, and you also had black people going on cop killing sprees, also killing innocents.


Oh let's not forget the actual fucking concentration camps. The other team long ago decided to ****s, and playing nice and compromising isn't going to make them stop by magic, and people shouldn't be expected to take it lying down.


Dude, you have no idea what a concentration camp is, fuck off.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-02 19:04:37
August 02 2018 19:01 GMT
#11453
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
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On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040

I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.


I agree that if you replace "white" with Brown, Black, Hispanic, etc, the NYT doesnt hire her. Her defense of the tweets is also weak as hell. Not a fan of this hire. Feels like a double standard.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 02 2018 19:01 GMT
#11454
On August 03 2018 03:46 m4ini wrote:
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On August 03 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:39 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040

I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.

Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements. At least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.

You do realize that you just implied that all black people are rioters and looters, right?

Nope, I didn’t do that. And sometimes I support rioters and looters, depending on what they are rioting against and who they are looting. I’m very tolerant of alternative lifestyles.


Then lets hope that "the other team" doesn't have the same views, because of course, looting and violence is only great if you yourself get to decide "who's worthy", not if someone else decides that you're now fair game.

Calling rioting and looting "lifestyle" is btw beyond idiotic.

edit: while we're at it, this one here is too.

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She's my favorite NYT employee at the moment.


Yay, someone is racist against the other team, that makes it totally okay - abolish all the things, go ham on those i don't like!

I am being a bit hyperbolic and making a joke about tolerance as people who use the term SJW view the world.

I don’t like violence, but understand that the rules and laws are sometimes rigged so one group can’t win. Like labor in the 1910-1930s, who had to go through a lot of violence to get the right to have simple things, like 8 hour work days and 60 hour work week. Riots are rarely single sided affairs too, where the government tries to stop protests and receives an aggressive response.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 02 2018 19:03 GMT
#11455
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
August 02 2018 19:12 GMT
#11456
There's something very bizarre about the generation that raised their children to not believe in everything on the Internet mindlessly following an anonymous shitposter on 4chan. Remember, that's the site that used to emblazon "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.". Even weirder why 50-60 year olds are even browsing that site, or taking anything posted there on face value.

If the NYT is smart, they'll drop Jeong like they did with the other editorial staff member who posted on Twitter like she was on 4chan. You really have to wonder how poorly they vet social media if they let posts like that slip by their filters in the hiring process.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 02 2018 19:12 GMT
#11457
On August 03 2018 03:45 Plansix wrote:
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On August 03 2018 03:38 Sermokala wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:05 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:52 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 02:20 screamingpalm wrote:
I saw that article on Qanon lol. Almost posted it as I pondered how the hell we will ever make progress in this country.

Getting news off of social media and cracking down on sites like youtube hosting this trash. The only reason they allow this stuff on their service is due to the complete liability protection they receive from the Communications Decency Act. That law needs to be updated.


There was a bit on NPR about how Google, etc. have until now resisted any sort of filtering tech, because they know if they have it people will demand it. But apparently Google may be doing something so they can get into the Chinese market. Could be an interesting development.

People have been saying this since 2014 when the focus was video game boobies and women with opinions, these youtube personalities and google make bank peddling these conspiracy theories and harassment campaigns. From patreon to go-fund-me, these sites have made money from supporting these snake oil merchant who are causing real harm. I remember jokers like Sargon of Akkad and Vox Day talking about evil SJWs/women ruining science fiction, spreading lies about people they didn’t like and riling up harassment campaigns all the way through 2014-2015. And now both of them are political actors, peddling hate and conspiracies for profit. All thanks to Google and other social media.

I dunno. Episode 8 kinda proved their point. And it's not exactly the only shining example.

You mean the best Star Wars film since Empire? Critical loved and talked about to this day. Hated by a loud group of internet babies making money off of outrage on youtube. The one that understands Luke was weak at the end of Jedi and nearly fell to the dark side. That he won rejecting violence and rage while accepting that he would die for it. That his actions with the Emperor didn’t matter. The SJWs of the world understood those movies and took something from them that wasn’t space wizards with super powers fighting with laser swords.

And SJWs also created the Expanse, which is top tier sci-fi. Ex Machine, Annihilation, fuck even District 9. Sci-fiction is the world of the SJW, looking for futures beyond the banal culture wars and to ask and say interesting things about humanity and identity. You might need to consider your taste in sci-fi are basic as fuck.

Oh please it has worse writing than an adam Sandler movie and tons of people hated it. Solo tanked beacuse of.how much people hated it. Luke wasn't a coward afraid to take responsibility for the monsters he set lose on the universe. The casino planet storyline will be forever referenced as what a colossal waste of time is. Mary poppins out of nowhere and the nonsense of the luke death scene should have been the height of terrible decisions the movie made until they randomly killed the only villian with credibility and told everyone blankly that their hero was a mary sue and they put less work into her character then the person who owned the helmet she was wearing in the first movie.

God forbid we talk about how space combat is forever now and retroactively ruined in the property for the sake of a single shot. SJWs didn't create scifi they ruin everything they touch beacuse they inherently don't understand basic storytelling. If they did they wouldn't let their passion for social justice get in the way of a good story. That's the difference between SJWs and regular people who want equality.

Star Wars space everything dumb and makes no sense. It is one step above Flash Gordon in how silly it is. You can’t ruin space combat that never made sense to begin with. You can’t retroactively ruin other films that previously came out either. The all ladies ghost busters didn’t kill your childhood, all of that is impossible.


It's about suspension of disbelief. As long as things make sense within the universe of the story, they're okay. When they aren't then there's a problem.
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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-02 19:21:20
August 02 2018 19:16 GMT
#11458
On August 03 2018 04:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
There's something very bizarre about the generation that raised their children to not believe in everything on the Internet mindlessly following an anonymous shitposter on 4chan. Remember, that's the site that used to emblazon "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.". Even weirder why 50-60 year olds are even browsing that site, or taking anything posted there on face value.



Yes all of this. I don't think the appropriate response is to fuel the fires by banning it. Depressing to think that we would need to. Best thing Obama did in office was increase math and science standards [in public schools], might still be a while before we see results lol.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 02 2018 19:17 GMT
#11459
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/judge-rules-andrew-miller-roger-stone-aide-must-testify

Hmmm 93 page ruling, this judge is not messing around. Roger Stone looks like he’s also going to jail soon. There’s definitely a lot more than just smoke, and the smoke is start to drive Trumpsters crazy.

A federal judge ruled Thursday that a former assistant to Roger Stone must testify before the grand jury convened by special counsel Robert Mueller.

As the Washington Post first reported, Chief Judge Beryl Howell rejected Andrew Miller’s challenge to Mueller’s subpoenas on the grounds that the entire special counsel investigation was unconstitutionally overbroad in its scope.

The ruling does not refer to Miller by name, but Miller’s attorney, Paul Kamenar, confirmed to the Post that it related to the request brought by his client.

“We’re disappointed with the court’s ruling,” Kamenar told the newspaper. “But the judge obviously took our challenge to Mueller’s constitutionality seriously as evidenced by the 93-page opinion.”


Life?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 02 2018 19:19 GMT
#11460
On August 03 2018 03:57 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2018 03:37 Plansix wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 03 2018 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The NYT editorial staff finally took some time off from writing emotion profiles of white nationists and Nazis and hired someone to provide some balance. They can give her a desk next to David Brooks and he can write how confused he is by her strange young person ways.

So you're in favor of the NYT hiring racists? Have you seen her tweets?

Here are some for context:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1025018913116119040

I don't even see where the gray could be. This woman legitimately hates white people. If you replaced "white" with "black" in any of those tweets, the NYT would have already fired her career into the sun.

Some of her responses directly to people harassing her were over the top, specifically the one about breeding. But as a white person, I’m not so fragile to feel outraged by her statements, but they are not appropriate for someone working at the times. But, at least she didn’t imply that white people were vermin.

And for the record, I dislike the NYT editorial section. I write them two – three grumpy emails/letters a year, like an old man complaining to his local paper. I’ll write one special just for you.

It is blatant racism and gives others other license or the appearance of a license to do the same. I guess they are looking to attract the "I hate white people" market. Which is a slippery slope to having an anti asian writer anti gay and so on.

Anyone who supports those opinions is clearly racist.

As I said, she her language isn’t appropriate for her position and I don’t like the NYT editorial team. This is just a long tread of bad hires, including a woman who was friends with Richard Spencer.(Who was fired the same day)

However, I am also self aware enough to know that my own race of white people can be a hot pile of super trash and is not called out of their bullshit enough. I don’t endorse every one of those tweets, but I’m not so easily put out that I’m going to believe that woman hate me because of my very pale skin.
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