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On January 19 2026 20:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think Trump will negotiate a deal with Greenland where the USA agrees to protect Greenland in exchange for mineral/resources rights in certain parts of Greenland. I think outright ownership is his opening negotiating salvo. outright ownership of greenland requires many different parts of the US government to participate. Trump doesn't want to do any of that.
The thing is Greenland have actively been looking for companies to extract resources but no one is interested.
Because first you need to get a lot of ships and icebreakers. Then you need to build a harbor only using boats and helicopters. Then you need to build a road/railroad through an ice sheet. Then you need to build the mine. And a full size powerplant to run things. And a town for the workers. And a small airport. Then you need to import every single thing you need, including workers.
Then you can mine.
Thing is you can just find some other place and you only need the mine. It would be freakishly expensive.
Now if you build 10-20 of these things maybe you get enough infrastructure for the next to make sense. Or you just dump $trillions into infrastructure from goverment funds. I'm pretty sure if the US wanted it could get either a 100 year lease on all resources for doing that or if they just started Greenland would voluntairly join them because it's such a massive opportunity.
Well it reached -10 today in minnesota, the ice agents will need their masks now for their saftey and not just for the gestapo cosplay.
Its not going to significantly warm up and next Saturday it'll get negative 15 easily. Heres hopeing this will cause the invasion of minnesota to peter out but who knows. They're going to lose agents if they don't retreat soon but invading a cold weather state in the winter is the classic facist playbook so who knows.
Who does USA really need to protect us (or anyone for that matter) from? Currently, according to polling in EU and I'm sure feelings of most of the rest of the world the biggest threat to any country is USA.
No one wants US protection under Trump because it's abundantly obvious that this guy doesn't honor his obligations, the way he's leveraging US power is akin to mafia coming to you trying to sell you insurance from themselves, and anyone who has read a book or watched a movie in their life understands that you don't do business with these people because they'll just come back with more demands.
And it's actually even worse, because he's also interfering with this business by extorting the potential clients by putting unilateral tariffs on them, it's absolutely unhinged and stupid.
It's all stick and no carrot, that's not how things work no matter how big your army is.
On January 19 2026 20:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think Trump will negotiate a deal with Greenland where the USA agrees to protect Greenland in exchange for mineral/resources rights in certain parts of Greenland. I think outright ownership is his opening negotiating salvo. outright ownership of greenland requires many different parts of the US government to participate. Trump doesn't want to do any of that.
The thing is Greenland have actively been looking for companies to extract resources but no one is interested.
Because first you need to get a lot of ships and icebreakers. Then you need to build a harbor only using boats and helicopters. Then you need to build a road/railroad through an ice sheet. Then you need to build the mine. And a full size powerplant to run things. And a town for the workers. And a small airport. Then you need to import every single thing you need, including workers.
Then you can mine.
Thing is you can just find some other place and you only need the mine. It would be freakishly expensive.
Now if you build 10-20 of these things maybe you get enough infrastructure for the next to make sense. Or you just dump $trillions into infrastructure from goverment funds. I'm pretty sure if the US wanted it could get either a 100 year lease on all resources for doing that or if they just started Greenland would voluntairly join them because it's such a massive opportunity.
Is that a hindrance ? If Canada can pull it off… It‘s more of a should do vs a can do. Like, there‘s one planet and the goal can‘t be to just churn through it as quickly as possible. Space travel is cute for sci-fi but unrealistic.
It‘s like you can‘t pass a day without a bunch of nutjob leaders trying to send earth into apoptosis. And with the internet they‘re in your face constantly reminding you that they exist and want to annoy you so you can worship them or whatever else they‘re after. Eugh.
Maybe the consciousness that we‘re yeast bacteria in a beer keg who are trying not to drown in their own piss will arise eventually and we won‘t have shitwaffle byproducts that actively try to piss into the keg instead.
On January 19 2026 20:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think Trump will negotiate a deal with Greenland where the USA agrees to protect Greenland in exchange for mineral/resources rights in certain parts of Greenland. I think outright ownership is his opening negotiating salvo. outright ownership of greenland requires many different parts of the US government to participate. Trump doesn't want to do any of that.
The thing is Greenland have actively been looking for companies to extract resources but no one is interested.
Because first you need to get a lot of ships and icebreakers. Then you need to build a harbor only using boats and helicopters. Then you need to build a road/railroad through an ice sheet. Then you need to build the mine. And a full size powerplant to run things. And a town for the workers. And a small airport. Then you need to import every single thing you need, including workers.
Then you can mine.
Thing is you can just find some other place and you only need the mine. It would be freakishly expensive.
Now if you build 10-20 of these things maybe you get enough infrastructure for the next to make sense. Or you just dump $trillions into infrastructure from goverment funds. I'm pretty sure if the US wanted it could get either a 100 year lease on all resources for doing that or if they just started Greenland would voluntairly join them because it's such a massive opportunity.
It's more than that actually. Sure, there isn't much if any infrastructure for large scale mining in Greenland but it's not just infrastructure. Mining in permafrost is quite difficult, you need expertise and extra pay for people to do it because of the conditions. Then there's the issue of environmental impact, which is pretty big for Greenland since melting ice sheets not only cause problems around the globe but even just in and around Greenland itself you'd have more icebergs floating, which makes sea transport more dangerous, many regions would get more flooding and erosion (and flooding and erosion are not good for mining operations) etc. etc.
It's massive investments with potentially no returns and if there would be any you'd probably have to wait decades for the return on the investment.
Did this orange exhibitor for dumb haircut just admited he did this only for some stupid award? Is he fucking five years old?
I notice master of negotiations, Trump in his opening salvo is complaining to Norway that he didn't receive his precious Nobel. Should Sweden complain to the US Congress when Skarsgard doesn't win an Academy Award? What intellect, a god amongst men.
Maybe Carlsen would be willing give Trump some of his world champnionship titles to go with his purple heart and that will pacify his warmongering for three weeks. And Serena Williams could chip in one of her Wimbledon trophies while we are at it.
On January 19 2026 20:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think Trump will negotiate a deal with Greenland where the USA agrees to protect Greenland in exchange for mineral/resources rights in certain parts of Greenland. I think outright ownership is his opening negotiating salvo. outright ownership of greenland requires many different parts of the US government to participate. Trump doesn't want to do any of that.
The thing is Greenland have actively been looking for companies to extract resources but no one is interested.
Because first you need to get a lot of ships and icebreakers. Then you need to build a harbor only using boats and helicopters. Then you need to build a road/railroad through an ice sheet. Then you need to build the mine. And a full size powerplant to run things. And a town for the workers. And a small airport. Then you need to import every single thing you need, including workers.
Then you can mine.
Thing is you can just find some other place and you only need the mine. It would be freakishly expensive.
Now if you build 10-20 of these things maybe you get enough infrastructure for the next to make sense. Or you just dump $trillions into infrastructure from goverment funds. I'm pretty sure if the US wanted it could get either a 100 year lease on all resources for doing that or if they just started Greenland would voluntairly join them because it's such a massive opportunity.
Is that a hindrance ? If Canada can pull it off… It‘s more of a should do vs a can do. Like, there‘s one planet and the goal can‘t be to just churn through it as quickly as possible. Space travel is cute for sci-fi but unrealistic.
It‘s like you can‘t pass a day without a bunch of nutjob leaders trying to send earth into apoptosis. And with the internet they‘re in your face constantly reminding you that they exist and want to annoy you so you can worship them or whatever else they‘re after. Eugh.
Maybe the consciousness that we‘re yeast bacteria in a beer keg who are trying not to drown in their own piss will arise eventually and we won‘t have shitwaffle byproducts that actively try to piss into the keg instead.
The difficulty is not even close to doing it in Canada or Alaska.
I agree with argument it's not something we should do as well. But it's not really something we can do either. I mean technically it's feasible to dig stuff out of the ground in Greenland and send it somewhere else. But from a practical point of view it's impossible for it to make sense right now.
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A New Hampshire Episcopal bishop is attracting national attention after warning his clergy to finalize their wills and get their affairs in order to prepare for a “new era of martyrdom.”
Bishop Rob Hirschfeld of the Episcopal Church of New Hampshire made his comments earlier this month at a vigil honoring Renee Good, who was fatally shot on Jan. 7 behind the wheel of her vehicle by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer.
The Trump administration has defended the ICE officer’s actions, saying he fired in self-defense while standing in front of Good’s vehicle as it began to move forward. That explanation has been panned by Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and others based on videos of the confrontation.
Hirschfeld’s speech cited several historical clergy members who had risked their lives to protect others, including mentioning New Hampshire seminary student Jonathan Daniels, who was shot and killed by a sheriff’s deputy in Alabama while shielding a young Black civil rights activist in 1965.
“I have told the clergy of the Episcopal diocese of New Hampshire that we may be entering into that same witness,” Hirschfeld said. “And I’ve asked them to get their affairs in order, to make sure they have their wills written, because it may be that now is no longer the time for statements, but for us with our bodies, to stand between the powers of this world and the most vulnerable.
“Those of us who are ready to build a new world, we also have to be prepared,” he said. “If we truly want to live without fear, we cannot fear even death itself, my friends.”
Other religious leaders have also called on Christians to protect the vulnerable amid the uptick in immigration enforcement under the Trump administration, including Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe, the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church.
“We keep resisting, advocating, bearing witness and repairing the breach,” Rowe said during a prayer earlier this week. “We keep sheltering and caring for those among us who are immigrants and refugees because they are beloved by God, and without them, we cannot fully be the church.””
that's how you know someone has his eyes and ears on the ground, knows what goes on in his flock's life - and finally speaks out. remarkable words really, I wish for it to work out and a show of force by the faithful will be enough. only I am not hopeful at all that it will.
a nice contra point to the professional liars & idiots giving unjust orders nonetheless. cheerful psychos enabling atrocities, abusing the authority temporarily entrusted to them - perverting the law itself and losing sight of any and all proportionality.
and for what? some numbers on a spreadsheet on Miller's desk? FAFO as a political principle. massively fucked in the head and the "results" show that.
MAGAts will say they're fake Christians because they're actually trying to follow Jesus' teachings instead of harassing queer people for no reason.
On January 17 2026 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote: For those that plan on escaping (all the posters left in the US afaict), what are you waiting for?
Do you have any concern that you might wait too long? Is there something specific or are you just waiting on your gut to tell you?
Yeah, I do have that concern. I am kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place, having a 2 year old and a 4 year old. I need to not be rash. And yet I also need to think of this as a legitimate risk. I wish I had a better answer but I don't.
Before they start school makes the most sense imo. I'm thinking moving to Greenland after it gets annexed might not be a terrible plan personally.
I wonder if the MAGA crowd is completely confused to why when Trump suggests anywhere becomes part of the US everyone there is like " OH HELL NO". I bet they do not get it at all.
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A New Hampshire Episcopal bishop is attracting national attention after warning his clergy to finalize their wills and get their affairs in order to prepare for a “new era of martyrdom.”
Bishop Rob Hirschfeld of the Episcopal Church of New Hampshire made his comments earlier this month at a vigil honoring Renee Good, who was fatally shot on Jan. 7 behind the wheel of her vehicle by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer.
The Trump administration has defended the ICE officer’s actions, saying he fired in self-defense while standing in front of Good’s vehicle as it began to move forward. That explanation has been panned by Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and others based on videos of the confrontation.
Hirschfeld’s speech cited several historical clergy members who had risked their lives to protect others, including mentioning New Hampshire seminary student Jonathan Daniels, who was shot and killed by a sheriff’s deputy in Alabama while shielding a young Black civil rights activist in 1965.
“I have told the clergy of the Episcopal diocese of New Hampshire that we may be entering into that same witness,” Hirschfeld said. “And I’ve asked them to get their affairs in order, to make sure they have their wills written, because it may be that now is no longer the time for statements, but for us with our bodies, to stand between the powers of this world and the most vulnerable.
“Those of us who are ready to build a new world, we also have to be prepared,” he said. “If we truly want to live without fear, we cannot fear even death itself, my friends.”
Other religious leaders have also called on Christians to protect the vulnerable amid the uptick in immigration enforcement under the Trump administration, including Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe, the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church.
“We keep resisting, advocating, bearing witness and repairing the breach,” Rowe said during a prayer earlier this week. “We keep sheltering and caring for those among us who are immigrants and refugees because they are beloved by God, and without them, we cannot fully be the church.””
that's how you know someone has his eyes and ears on the ground, knows what goes on in his flock's life - and finally speaks out. remarkable words really, I wish for it to work out and a show of force by the faithful will be enough. only I am not hopeful at all that it will.
a nice contra point to the professional liars & idiots giving unjust orders nonetheless. cheerful psychos enabling atrocities, abusing the authority temporarily entrusted to them - perverting the law itself and losing sight of any and all proportionality.
and for what? some numbers on a spreadsheet on Miller's desk? FAFO as a political principle. massively fucked in the head and the "results" show that.
MAGAts will say they're fake Christians because they're actually trying to follow Jesus' teachings instead of harassing queer people for no reason.
yeah there's that too. as if following the dogmatic teachings disguised as "common sense" and "otherize" people having more than enough of their fill of struggle without people piling on would not be bad enough... in addition too many denominations happily let themselves become part of the Republican machine against better judgement and historical reasons why that's a really bad idea.
sympathy and closeness to a semblance of conservatism is one thing, making Trump your champion and all that comes with it though? a futile attempt to drive out Satan by using Beelzebub.
to the other pressing matter where Trump manages to insert his own very special brand of madness.
One could observe many things about this document. One is the childish grammar, including the strange capitalizations (“Complete and Total Control”). Another is the loose grasp of history. Donald Trump did not end eight wars. Greenland has been Danish territory for centuries. Its residents are Danish citizens who vote in Danish elections. There are many “written documents” establishing Danish sovereignty in Greenland, including some signed by the United States. In his second term, Trump has done nothing for NATO—an organization that the U.S. created and theoretically leads, and that has only ever been used in defense of American interests. If the European members of NATO have begun spending more on their own defense (budgets to which the U.S. never contributed), that’s because of the threat they feel from Russia.
Yet what matters isn’t the specific phrases, but the overall message: Donald Trump now genuinely lives in a different reality, one in which neither grammar nor history nor the normal rules of human interaction now affect him. Also, he really is maniacally, unhealthily obsessive about the Nobel Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee, not the Norwegian government and certainly not the Danish government, determines the winner of that prize. Yet Trump now not only blames Norway for failing to give it to him, but is using it as a justification for an invasion of Greenland.
Think about where this is leading. One possibility, anticipated this morning by financial markets, is a damaging trade war. Another is an American military occupation of Greenland. Try to imagine it: The U.S. Marines arrive in Nuuk, the island’s capital. Perhaps they kill some Danes; perhaps some American soldiers die too. And then what? If the invaders were Russians, they would arrest all of the politicians, put gangsters in charge, shoot people on the street for speaking Danish, change school curricula, and carry out a fake referendum to rubber-stamp the conquest. Is that the American plan too? If not, then what is it? This would not be the occupation of Iraq, which was difficult enough. U.S. troops would need to force Greenlanders, citizens of a treaty ally, to become American against their will.
For the past year, American allies around the world have tried very hard to find a theory that explains Trump’s behavior. Isolationism, neo-imperialism, and patrimonialism are all words that have been thrown around.
But in the end, the president himself defeats all attempts to describe a “Trump doctrine.” He is locked into a world of his own, determined to “win” every encounter, whether in an imaginary competition for the Nobel Peace Prize or a protest from the mother of small children objecting to his masked, armed paramilitary in Minneapolis. These contests matter more to him than any long-term strategy. And of course, the need to appear victorious matters much more than Americans’ prosperity and well-being.
The people around Trump could find ways to stop him, as some did in his first term, but they seem too corrupt or too power-hungry to try.
That leaves Republicans in Congress as the last barrier. They owe it to the American people, and to the world, to stop Trump from acting out his fantasy in Greenland and doing permanent damage to American interests. He is at risk of alienating friends in not only Europe but also India, whose leader he also snubbed for failing to nominate him for a Nobel Prize, as well as South Korea, Japan, Australia.
Years of careful diplomacy, billions of dollars in trade, are now at risk because senators and representatives who know better have refused to use the powers they have to block him. Now is the time.
no pretense. just ugly degenerate American. from the idiocy to the shamelessness to the vainglorious entitlement.
incredibly absurd all this. meanwhile Champagne consumption in Moscow and in Dachas around the area is increasing hundred fold.
On January 20 2026 06:50 LightSpectra wrote: The terrible grammar of that letter makes me think his aides refused to write it for him because it's so batshit insane, so he did it himself.
You’re thinking of his first term. In his second term none of his aides are literate either.
Macron told Trump that he would not join his so called council of peace, for Gaza together with all the worst people in the world, so Trump is trying again to blackmail France by taxing french wines and champagnes.
Three years of that clown show is going to be very long.
On January 20 2026 17:16 Biff The Understudy wrote: Macron told Trump that he would not join his so called council of peace, for Gaza together with all the worst people in the world, so Trump is trying again to blackmail France by taxing french wines and champagnes.
Three years of that clown show is going to be very long.
What, France doesn't want to participate in this circus? Maybe Trump should invite Macron to participate in UFC White House, on condition that Trump will be one of the fighters. Russians are already not allowed there, so it's only half a shame [edit] the Gaza council could be.
I fully expect to wake up this year to the news that Trump has entirely abandoned Ukraine and will actively support Russia with modern weapons because Europe doesnt let him bully them.
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