EPTI am not JJR and can not speak for him, but my guess is that his argument would roughly be that you get a bunch of money doing that. And money is helpful in a lot of situations.
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Simberto
Germany11835 Posts
I am not JJR and can not speak for him, but my guess is that his argument would roughly be that you get a bunch of money doing that. And money is helpful in a lot of situations. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8078 Posts
What a shitshow. People will look at that period in a hundred years and wonder what kind of idiots elected that senile a-hole to the White House, twice. | ||
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Calanthe
United States148 Posts
On January 19 2026 07:53 Simberto wrote: I am not JJR and can not speak for him, but my guess is that his argument would roughly be that you get a bunch of money doing that. And money is helpful in a lot of situations. yes, but like... does he think people say "tax the rich" because they are jealous? acquiring more money for yourself does not address the things the "tax the rich" people are after. they do not wish to tax the rich so that they themselves can get more money, as the goal isn't personal enrichment. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
On January 19 2026 14:38 Calanthe wrote: yes, but like... does he think people say "tax the rich" because they are jealous? acquiring more money for yourself does not address the things the "tax the rich" people are after. they do not wish to tax the rich so that they themselves can get more money, as the goal isn't personal enrichment. JJR quotes Ayn Rand adoringly. I don't think he wants to tax the rich. I think he just got confused and thought this was the trading and investment advice thread, instead of USpol? | ||
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hitthat
Poland2341 Posts
Did this orange exhibitor for dumb haircut just admited he did this only for some stupid award? Is he fucking five years old? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
E: although he has the medal AND the extremely prestigious FIFA Peace Prize, so maybe he considers that achievement collected and he's moving on to the next checkbox: world conquest. A bit similar to how I approach games of Civilization. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17509 Posts
On January 19 2026 16:34 Acrofales wrote: JJR quotes Ayn Rand adoringly. I don't think he wants to tax the rich. I think he just got confused and thought this was the trading and investment advice thread, instead of USpol? i quote Rand for over the top humour. For a serious, deep investigation into libertarian political theory check out Nozick, Rothbard, Friedman, etc. i like to post ACTIONS one can take rather than just whine about bad things. there is zero any one in this thread can do to steer the negotiations between all these nations jockeying over Greenland. I provided two things any common person can do. regarding "taxing the rich" ... you prolly have not read my posts thoroughly. I've made many proposals to tax the rich. This includes the libertarian way of taxing the rich which is a per contract user fee. A single person living in an apartment has almost no contracts requiring enforcement. That person pays very little. A person who employs 1000 people has thousands of contracts that must be backed by government courts to have meaning. This person pays far more fees. Outside of Libertarian theory I've proposed a Canadian GST targeted consumption tax. It would be much higher than the 5% GST in Canada. I'd prolly have a consumption tax around 20%. Now, similar to the GST you do not tax essentials like rent or food. You tax video games, alcohol, cigarettes, $60,000+ sports cars, fast food like McD's etc etc. A properly constructed GST will heavily tax the luxury consumption upper middle class and rich people love to engage. None of this will ever happen though. If any President tried any of these measures to tax the rich he'd be shot dead and replaced. He'd be warned ahead of time to back off. If he kept moving forward with any of these proposals he'd be killed and replaced by someone who plays ball. I will close my position on taxing the rich with a quote by my hero Warren Buffett: "it is time to stop coddling the super rich" Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22364 Posts
On January 19 2026 19:51 hitthat wrote: We always knew he was the biggest man child ever.https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/01/19/trump-tells-norway-he-has-no-obligation-to-think-purely-of-peace-after-nobel-snub_6749567_4.html Did this orange exhibitor for dumb haircut just admited he did this only for some stupid award? Is he fucking five years old? Fun think about that letter when he says "why do you have rights to the land just because you landed a boat", he is also saying the US has no right to America. I would love to ask the joint chiefs of staff what the odds are of a military engaging in a coup de ta if the man baby in charge starts a direct war with NATO because he didn't get a nobel peace prize for falsely claiming to stop al sorts of war, half of which were not real to begin with. Now that would be a legacy worthy of Trump. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17509 Posts
On January 19 2026 20:46 Gorsameth wrote: Fun think about that letter when he says "why do you have rights to the land just because you landed a boat", he is also saying the US has no right to America. Now, all you have to do is head into DC and persuade 90 million people to abandon their property and leave.  It is all about exerting military force. Its not about land rights theories and it never has been. the conquerers just need a nice story to tell their grandchildren. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28797 Posts
On January 19 2026 20:11 Acrofales wrote: Someone should tell him the Nobel prizes are awarded annually and that invading Venezuela probably disqualifies him for this year, but if he works really hard on global peace he *might* be eligible in 2027 or 2028. E: although he has the medal AND the extremely prestigious FIFA Peace Prize, so maybe he considers that achievement collected and he's moving on to the next checkbox: world conquest. A bit similar to how I approach games of Civilization. It really does kinda feel like the US was doing a science/culture victory and then some other guy comes and is like oh I want the conquest end screen instead. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4756 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11835 Posts
On January 19 2026 22:54 Silvanel wrote: Regarding the invasion, I need to point out that it is FREAKIN JANUARY. If they just landed 10000 troops on Greenland now, the only thing they would achieve is freezing their asses out. IF and that's a big if, they try to take the island militarily, it will happen around June. Hopefully, Trump will forget about this by then. It would also probably be some army units with arctic gear and training, not marines, as they, at least to my knowledge, are totally unsuited for this area of operation. But does Trump know those army units? Trump is not gonna send in some guys he has never heard about, but he has heard about the marines! | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8744 Posts
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A New Hampshire Episcopal bishop is attracting national attention after warning his clergy to finalize their wills and get their affairs in order to prepare for a “new era of martyrdom.” Bishop Rob Hirschfeld of the Episcopal Church of New Hampshire made his comments earlier this month at a vigil honoring Renee Good, who was fatally shot on Jan. 7 behind the wheel of her vehicle by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer. The Trump administration has defended the ICE officer’s actions, saying he fired in self-defense while standing in front of Good’s vehicle as it began to move forward. That explanation has been panned by Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and others based on videos of the confrontation. Hirschfeld’s speech cited several historical clergy members who had risked their lives to protect others, including mentioning New Hampshire seminary student Jonathan Daniels, who was shot and killed by a sheriff’s deputy in Alabama while shielding a young Black civil rights activist in 1965. “I have told the clergy of the Episcopal diocese of New Hampshire that we may be entering into that same witness,” Hirschfeld said. “And I’ve asked them to get their affairs in order, to make sure they have their wills written, because it may be that now is no longer the time for statements, but for us with our bodies, to stand between the powers of this world and the most vulnerable. “Those of us who are ready to build a new world, we also have to be prepared,” he said. “If we truly want to live without fear, we cannot fear even death itself, my friends.” Other religious leaders have also called on Christians to protect the vulnerable amid the uptick in immigration enforcement under the Trump administration, including Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe, the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church. “We keep resisting, advocating, bearing witness and repairing the breach,” Rowe said during a prayer earlier this week. “We keep sheltering and caring for those among us who are immigrants and refugees because they are beloved by God, and without them, we cannot fully be the church.”” that's how you know someone has his eyes and ears on the ground, knows what goes on in his flock's life - and finally speaks out. remarkable words really, I wish for it to work out and a show of force by the faithful will be enough. only I am not hopeful at all that it will. a nice contra point to the professional liars & idiots giving unjust orders nonetheless. cheerful psychos enabling atrocities, abusing the authority temporarily entrusted to them - perverting the law itself and losing sight of any and all proportionality. and for what? some numbers on a spreadsheet on Miller's desk? FAFO as a political principle. massively fucked in the head and the "results" show that. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7202 Posts
On January 19 2026 20:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I think Trump will negotiate a deal with Greenland where the USA agrees to protect Greenland in exchange for mineral/resources rights in certain parts of Greenland. I think outright ownership is his opening negotiating salvo. outright ownership of greenland requires many different parts of the US government to participate. Trump doesn't want to do any of that stuff. Protect? From what? From himself? From US troops? Greenland is not Ukraine. Russia is not gonna invade Greeland. Neither is China. He can also, you know, buy the ressources he wants with money. Like everybody else... | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22364 Posts
'In exchange for resources' is just pretending like the US isn't giving Greenland a full on mob shakedown. No, fuck that shit. Greenlands resources belong to Greenland. not the US. | ||
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Billyboy
1719 Posts
On January 20 2026 00:00 Harris1st wrote: Protect? From what? From himself? From US troops? Greenland is not Ukraine. Russia is not gonna invade Greeland. Neither is China. He can also, you know, buy the ressources he wants with money. Like everybody else... It is really amazing how dumb Trump is, but that he can still cause this level of problems and chaos. If he wanted Greenland and had a plan then executed it he could have taken it easily without most people even realizing it happened. He just needed to come on to the stage when he won his election and say that making America Great Again means protecting democracy’s and allies like hero’s. Then give Ukraine what it needs, or at least more than Biden and talk about it always as if he is doing it all. Start bread crumbing that intelligence is noticing a lot more Russian incursion into the artic. Start slowly increasing the troop count. Offer Greenland a full base, full protection. Start running a bunch of internet ads about how Greenland’s economy is rocketing with all the activity of the base. Plus how aggressive Russia is being and start amplifying the people of Greenland who would then want the US. Act as though it wasn’t your plan but if it what they want , you will do it. And even if it doesn’t completely work, you have a giant military base full of troops there. Hell lots of people in the world would think Trump was great. Especially if he actually put the democratically elected leader of Venezuela in (or talked as if that was the goal) and bombed the IRGC bases and head quarters when they killed civilians. Instead it is just stupid tweets, inconsistent and awful decisions, seeing massive chaos. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
“One ICE agent said if we let you see your clients, we would have to let all the attorneys see their clients, and imagine the chaos,” said another attorney who asked not to be named. “And I said to that person, yeah, you do have to let all the attorneys see their clients. You do have to accommodate that. That’s the Constitution. You chose to put them here. I didn't bring this guy here, you did." Source: ABC NewsThey’re “law enforcement” but with secret identities, no oversight of any kind, and no apparent deference to the Constitution (or more specifically, the 4th, 5th, 6th, or 8th amendments). The only alternative to supporting this is, I’m told, anarchy (or, by the administration, “terrorism”). Well if that’s the case, anarchy/terrorism are looking pretty appealing. If nothing else they appear to be the only pro-Constitution position available. | ||
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Legan
Finland577 Posts
The invasion of Greenland may not happen, but I'm quite sure some unpopular loyalty test will be ordered for the US military. It is currently unclear how many engine failures, fuel leaks, and other forms of sabotage would occur if ships were ordered towards Greenland. Similarly, I have my doubts that the commanders of overseas military bases would be keen to be in the middle of a hostile country and a target of artillery shelling. Operation being a total failure even before it gets going could be a nice way out of the situation for many. However, the administration can issue other orders that test the military personnel's willingness to follow them. Even the orders to deploy in California can be seen as such tests. At some point, there will be a final test, after all, Trump works with the mob rules. If Democrats are actually doing some planning to avoid the worst-case scenario, then they are talking to military and business leaders to convince them that, in certain situations, they will back the Democrats swiftly in mass protests, general strike, and so on to ensure everyone gets fed and paid, and most importantly, does not get killed. Support is needed to last until Republicans are permanently removed from power. Not having anything ready for when protesters are massacred, or the president attacks an allied nation, should at last validate the claim that the Democrats are not going to be the ones to fix the situation. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17509 Posts
you got it. The USA invested heavily in their military. Trump is just making sure that investment pays off. Maybe Greenland is not for sale, however, the services of the US military certainly are. all this Trump wanting Greenland reminds me of Lex Luthor in the first Superman movie. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22364 Posts
On January 20 2026 00:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote: The investment into their military has payed off a hundred fold. They are the sole super power, a shining beacon in the West. Basically in control of NATO and the entire western hemisphere.you got it. The USA invested heavily in their military. Trump is just making sure that investment pays off. Maybe Greenland is not for sale, however, the services of the US military certainly are. all this Trump wanting Greenland reminds me of Lex Luthor in the first Superman movie. When Bush told the world "we need to invade Afghanistan because someone who lives there attacked us" the entire world agreed. (a little less when he did it a second time on false pretenses...) And then Trump pissed all that away. 80 years of US hegemony pissed down the drain because of an orange man child. He isn't making sure the investment pays off, he wasted all of it. Europe is moving away from the US. Canada is turning to China for trade. | ||
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