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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43468 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-17 21:24:30
5 hours ago
#108821
Well as we all know it is illegal to use the office to enrich yourself.

I wouldn’t want to be an American in the next few decades but fortunately I won’t be.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8685 Posts
5 hours ago
#108822
the rotten old man at the helm that worked a lifetime to achieve a reputation like no other now working overtime to do the same to the US' credibility just follows and seems fitting.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17610 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-17 23:18:27
3 hours ago
#108823
On January 18 2026 02:00 Billyboy wrote:
There is a clear and simple way the Republicans could raise American wages and make the US less attractive to illegal immigrants. They could put in massive fines (personal and corporate) or even criminal charges to owners of businesses who hire illegals.

I wonder why they do not...


Or they could just start regulating their own backyard. Most of the illegal immigrants work as cheap labor on farms (so red states) whereas legal ones typically work in bigger cities (blue states) where they are scrutinized more harshly around the I-9.

So, in order to fix the problem you'd have to figure out a way to make farmers not hire illegal immigrants for work and somehow not rise food prices by a lot. You could subsidize agriculture, then food prices would stay low but taxes would rise.

Choices, choices...

And there's the matter of actually finding people to do those jobs after you got rid of the immigrants because most of the time the jobs they're "stealing" from the citizens are jobs that no one else wants to do because of how hard it is or how low the pay is.

On January 18 2026 06:47 Doublemint wrote:
the rotten old man at the helm that worked a lifetime to achieve a reputation like no other now working overtime to do the same to the US' credibility just follows and seems fitting.


Trump and Musk are pretty much textbook definitions of "failing upwards." I really don't know why some people are still expecting good stuff from any of them.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28734 Posts
2 hours ago
#108824
From my quick googling California has a higher % of the undocumented immigrant population than they have of the population as a whole, and they’re not just working in agriculture but also stuff like construction- in cities. I'm not saying that most undocumented immigrants are residing in blue states but www.pewresearch.org to me seems to show that it is way more of an urban phenomenon than you think. Only 14% of undocumented immigrants work in agriculture (15% in construction) and they work in lots of other sectors too.
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Ze'ev
Profile Joined May 2025
147 Posts
1 hour ago
#108825
On January 18 2026 09:32 Liquid`Drone wrote:
From my quick googling California has a higher % of the undocumented immigrant population than they have of the population as a whole, and they’re not just working in agriculture but also stuff like construction- in cities. I'm not saying that most undocumented immigrants are residing in blue states but www.pewresearch.org to me seems to show that it is way more of an urban phenomenon than you think. Only 14% of undocumented immigrants work in agriculture (15% in construction) and they work in lots of other sectors too.

Sure, though that means relative to the local population illegal immigrants are more important to the rural economy than elsewhere.
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