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Legan
Finland577 Posts
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pmp10
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Is every official making wrong decisions getting droned? | ||
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Legan
Finland577 Posts
On January 04 2026 02:26 pmp10 wrote: I still don't get how US controls Venezuela without boots on the ground. Is every official making wrong decisions getting droned? You mean cowardly narcoterrorist hiding behind human shields? Of course. There was already a statement from some generals that the military is ready to strike against domestic enemies. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17509 Posts
On January 04 2026 02:26 Legan wrote: They don't need physical control when everyone is one kidnapping away from finding themselves in Quantanamo. I doubt Trump cares to keep things legal with Maduro's imprisonment for long. It is more politically palatable if the locals think they control it. Look at how pacified Canadians are because it is 'their oil'. In reality, it is run by Americans with a thin Canadian veneer on top. That is the great thing about the environmental movement in Canada. It keeps all the processing in the USA and in effect total US control. I would not be surprised at all to find out some aspects of Canada's environmental lobby is funded indirectly by big US corpo oil. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2575 Posts
On January 04 2026 02:09 Vindicare605 wrote: Anyone arguing about any other cause other than Oil has missed the point. Trump himself has said it is about oil. The nationalization of the Venezuelan energy industry has been a pain in the side of US oil companies for decades. It is about oil, it is only about oil. Any other excuse or justification you want to talk about it is just a distraction. It is about oil and nothing else. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c5yqygxe41pt You leftists say Trump lies about everything but you conveniently believe him when he's contradicting the talking points about narco terrorism that they were pushing 15 minutes ago, will you ever make up your minds? /s | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2356 Posts
if you support the robbery of Venezuela's oil u're a cunt | ||
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hitthat
Poland2341 Posts
They obviously played it wrong. They should just kidnap Nasser instead. | ||
KwarK
United States43987 Posts
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Billyboy
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hitthat
Poland2341 Posts
On January 04 2026 03:39 KwarK wrote: Russia and China should rationally sell nuclear missiles to any remaining allies today. The United States has decided that it wishes to emulate the superpower imperialism of the British in the late 19th Century and there is nothing that will stop them. They wont, because that will only end with Germany and Japan and possibly many more being armed too. When it comes to this, you can always sell few nuk...oh, pardon! Megatone dildos to us, I promise this time I will not condemn ya for Kali's morality  | ||
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KwarK
United States43987 Posts
On January 04 2026 03:49 hitthat wrote: They wont, because that will only end with Germany and Japan and possibly many more being armed too. When it comes to this, you can always sell few nuk...oh, pardon! Megatone dildos to us, I promise this time I will not condemn ya for Kali's morality So what? | ||
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hitthat
Poland2341 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
On January 04 2026 03:49 hitthat wrote: They wont, because that will only end with Germany and Japan and possibly many more being armed too. When it comes to this, you can always sell few nuk...oh, pardon! Megatone dildos to us, I promise this time I will not condemn ya for Kali's morality Is this the time to dust off the "this time, no Italy" memes? | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
So the position of people on the right (including Intro I guess?) seems to be that the American president has unilateral authority to decide literally any person on the planet should die and enact that. Dunno why Congress ever bothered to declare war in the past, just for moral support I guess. Also, the US justice system has unilateral authority to try anybody around the world for crimes, even foreign heads of state, with the sole exception of the American president, who has absolute immunity. On the other hand as imperialist ventures go this isn’t really that ambitious. Substantially less so than Iraq, and *way* less than something like Vietnam. Admittedly if they follow through on occupying the country and extracting the oil (presumably with brutal repression of any Venezuelans who try to oppose them) it could still be a pretty big undertaking. But for the moment this goes a long way towards saying “the President has absolutely no legal restraints on his behavior of any kind” but does very little to actually flex our muscles and intimidate opponents. Bad, bad day. One of the worst in my lifetime imo. | ||
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Legan
Finland577 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8078 Posts
On January 04 2026 04:51 ChristianS wrote: Extremely annoying how many people have been pretending to understand the idea “Saddam Hussein was bad but that doesn’t mean invading Iraq was good” for decades now. So the position of people on the right (including Intro I guess?) seems to be that the American president has unilateral authority to decide literally any person on the planet should die and enact that. Dunno why Congress ever bothered to declare war in the past, just for moral support I guess. Also, the US justice system has unilateral authority to try anybody around the world for crimes, even foreign heads of state, with the sole exception of the American president, who has absolute immunity. On the other hand as imperialist ventures go this isn’t really that ambitious. Substantially less so than Iraq, and *way* less than something like Vietnam. Admittedly if they follow through on occupying the country and extracting the oil (presumably with brutal repression of any Venezuelans who try to oppose them) it could still be a pretty big undertaking. But for the moment this goes a long way towards saying “the President has absolutely no legal restraints on his behavior of any kind” but does very little to actually flex our muscles and intimidate opponents. Bad, bad day. One of the worst in my lifetime imo. Yeah. It’s a fucking disaster there is no question. It will certainly embolden China to attack Taiwan and sets a precedent that imperialist unilateral attacks don’t even need justifications. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23948 Posts
On January 04 2026 04:51 ChristianS wrote: Extremely annoying how many people have been pretending to understand the idea “Saddam Hussein was bad but that doesn’t mean invading Iraq was good” for decades now. So the position of people on the right (including Intro I guess?) seems to be that the American president has unilateral authority to decide literally any person on the planet should die and enact that. Dunno why Congress ever bothered to declare war in the past, just for moral support I guess. Also, the US justice system has unilateral authority to try anybody around the world for crimes, even foreign heads of state, with the sole exception of the American president, who has absolute immunity. On the other hand as imperialist ventures go this isn’t really that ambitious. Substantially less so than Iraq, and *way* less than something like Vietnam. Admittedly if they follow through on occupying the country and extracting the oil (presumably with brutal repression of any Venezuelans who try to oppose them) it could still be a pretty big undertaking. But for the moment this goes a long way towards saying “the President has absolutely no legal restraints on his behavior of any kind” but does very little to actually flex our muscles and intimidate opponents. Bad, bad day. One of the worst in my lifetime imo. Can't help but feel like the Cardinals coach when he said "they are who we thought they were" + Show Spoiler + On January 04 2026 03:10 XenOsky wrote: USA is a terrorist country so is Israel. if you support the robbery of Venezuela's oil u're a cunt Can't help but wonder if people think a foreign country would be legitimate in bombing a CPAC meeting as a terrorist gathering? | ||
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Legan
Finland577 Posts
On January 04 2026 05:11 GreenHorizons wrote: Can't help but wonder if people think a foreign country would be legitimate in bombing a CPAC meeting as a terrorist gathering? I think the nacroterrorist boat line of thinking can really open a lot of opportunities. Maybe Elon Musk's private jet is part of drug trafficking, or perhaps it is Bezzo's yacht in the Mediterranean. Unfortunately, real democracies with real rule of law have a hard time taking military action against these kinds of narcoterrorists. Much easier to go after people daring to sit on the road or throw paint on a machine. I have started to wonder if left-wing political parties should start openly engaging in information warfare. Nominate someone to be chief of propaganda and so on. The cat is out of the bag with how much misinformation is being thrown around. Just be transparent about doing it, and do not act surprised when social media is being flooded with fraudulent claims. If people believe in bullshit, why not create your own bullshit? | ||
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pmh
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Yurie
12087 Posts
On January 04 2026 06:22 pmh wrote: They are actually using the oil as an argument to justify the whole operation. "but you are doing this because of the oil!" "yes we are doing this because of the oil its the best reason one can have!" It shows how much the world has changed since the pandemic. That what used to be seen as a negative is now a positive. It has not changed. For some strange reason the US just elected a corrupt corporate/mafia stooge as president and a near majority in their congress/senate. So that is how they act currently. Globally people are still discussing how to decrease oil usage, even if the US slipped for a while and risk global progress on the issue. One thing that I guess is going to be very annoying for militaries running countries is that the US has shown they are willing to go down the ladder and replace you. Where previously those below would get it worse in a democracy, now they just climb and get a solid backer. It is back to the cold war promoting of dictators if they align with US policy. | ||
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